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This alien is pure nonsense indeed.
I wonder why the kids aren't scared of venom.
Or are they?

And yes. Transformers wasn't a kids movie, just like any of the "resurrected francise" movies.

I was going to say something, but everything that needs said has been said already, so meh. Can't say I totally disagree, the toys, esspecially things like the Legends class toys, give the distinct impression of being marketed towards smaller children, and when you're dealing with a movie that curses every few minutes and has masturbation jokes, I can see where their coming from. But in the end, I think people need to just shut up and let the parents learn for themselves that they need to monitor their children, and if their children hearing borderline f-bombs and jokes about 'Happy Time' is what it takes to whip the parents into shape, then so be it. Let it happen the hard way, God knows the world's gotten too soft.

No, it was not a kids movie. However, if I recall correctly, something was said some time ago about the marketing process for toys starts long before the end rating of the movie is finalised. I think that situation occured with the burger king toys giving kids "pester power" it's simply a case of a parent needs to stand thair ground and keep their authority over their kids.

Since I don't have a TV, I can't tell where these commercials are coming up, or were coming up. In that, I'll take your word for it.

But with the toys. I have raised a brow a few times and I am in agreement with these figures are far too difficult for a child of 5 to transform.

The Masterpiece Starscream, for instance, says for ages 5+. I don't feel that figure should be in the hands of anyone younger than 10 at the very least. It's a rather tough figure to transform, even for me and I am 32. Just move the figure the wrong way and it will break and children are not known for being gentle with toys.

As for hasbro. It's all a business opportunity. I sound like Quark, been watching DS9 lately.

Marketing is Marketing. And In the end, it is up to the parent to decide what is right for their child and what is not. It's not up to everyone else to make that decision.

this is total BOLLOCKS!! If these un-cultured idiots can make a case against Transformers for advertising during kiddie shows, why not a case against Gieko, or Mop and Glow, or any other of the commercials that aren't for kids that come on during these kiddie shows? Perhaps (as it was stated before), those commercials were not meant for their 2 year olds or whatever(i don't know any 2 or 3 year olds that really know s**t from clay, let alone ,what the hell Transformers is). Who the hell are these martini sipping, child-neglecters trying to hurt? This "advocacy group" should be told to shut the hell up, and deal with it. Stop trying to stamp on other people's rights too see a kick-ass movie. Get a blasted hobby or somthing!!
And even besides all of that, all of my friends and family let their kids watch Transformers, and they are just fine. What is it exactly that these baffoons are trying to shield their kids from, and is it really that bad? Really..

Autobot032 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:so what, then how young is too young,
it shouldn't matter parents will take them to a
movie like that if they choose

Alright, fair enough. However, there are plenty of parents out there who wouldn't take their child to see it. They know to avoid the potential problems that will arise from a viewing.

It's those smart parents that this complaint is for. The sensible ones.

so your calling those parents who sit and watch these shows with their kids and teach them the difference between fact and fiction stupid for allowing them to see it.
You know if it was a rated R i could see your point but don't call parents stupid for letting their kids watch a pg-13 movie thats just ignorant .

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:So Bumblebee in the movie peed on a guy....dosen't mean any of the BB toys have a squirt gun feature lodged into the crotch.

I knew something was missing from Premium Quality Bumblebee!

Ultra Markus wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:so what, then how young is too young,
it shouldn't matter parents will take them to a
movie like that if they choose

Alright, fair enough. However, there are plenty of parents out there who wouldn't take their child to see it. They know to avoid the potential problems that will arise from a viewing.

It's those smart parents that this complaint is for. The sensible ones.

so your calling those parents who sit and watch these shows with their kids and teach them the difference between fact and fiction stupid for allowing them to see it.
You know if it was a rated R i could see your point but don't call parents stupid for letting their kids watch a pg-13 movie thats just ignorant .

But it *IS* stupid. Not to mention, most of the parents today don't actually sit down and explain the difference for their children. Nor do they talk to them. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have ads about "Make a family night!" or "Dinnertime: The time for family!" etc...etc...

No. It's easier to shove a kid in front of a TV and let it be the babysitter.

PG-13: "PARENTS STRONGLY CAUTIONED — Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13" (this is the current MPAA description for PG-13) Not to mention, the ads clearly say "INTENSE SEQUENCES OF SCI-FI ACTION VIOLENCE, BRIEF SEXUAL HUMOR AND LANGUAGE" (all in caps, I might mention) and this is the actual rating icon taken from the movie's official site: http://www.transformersmovie.com/images/rating.gif

Any parent who takes their child (under the age of 13) to the film is just asking for trouble. It's their own stupidity if the kid sees it and has a problem because it's their job to make sure their children don't see if it doesn't fit them.

This is why the complaint is being made...too many idiot parents need a wake up call. Not to mention the film is marketed towards a youth audience. One commercial shows Bumblebee (who is adorable, there's no doubt that was intentional) and Sam (who's clearly a kid, a teenager yes, but a kid, and youngsters will identify with him) and it said "THEY'RE TEAMING UP TO SAVE THE WORLD!" ....what kid wouldn't buy into that? The kid's the superhero! The parents would buy into it too! Heck, even I was sucked into it.

The film is marketed towards too young of an audience and parents should pay attention to the ratings. They don't, which leads to complaints like this. I could repeat it 'til I'm blue in the face.

Any parent who takes their child (under the age of 13) to the film is just asking for trouble.

I took my kids to see it, & have had no problems with them. They didn't get scared, they haven't started asking about masturbating, haven't started running around the house swearing....nothing. I do find it offensive, though, that you do a large lump grouping of people & call them stupid. I was well aware of what the movie consisted of before I took my kids to see it. I saw a few things that weren't suitable, but overlooked it because I figured they would too, & they did.

But with the toys. I have raised a brow a few times and I am in agreement with these figures are far too difficult for a child of 5 to transform.

The standard deluxe/voyager/leader class figures are, yes, but there are also the fast action battlers, real gear, cyber stompin ,& cyber slammers, among others, that younger kiddies can easily play with & have fun.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Any parent who takes their child (under the age of 13) to the film is just asking for trouble.

I took my kids to see it, & have had no problems with them. They didn't get scared, they haven't started asking about masturbating, haven't started running around the house swearing....nothing. I do find it offensive, though, that you do a large lump grouping of people & call them stupid. I was well aware of what the movie consisted of before I took my kids to see it. I saw a few things that weren't suitable, but overlooked it because I figured they would too, & they did.

But with the toys. I have raised a brow a few times and I am in agreement with these figures are far too difficult for a child of 5 to transform.

The standard deluxe/voyager/leader class figures are, yes, but there are also the fast action battlers, real gear, cyber stompin ,& cyber slammers, among others, that younger kiddies can easily play with & have fun.

Each parent/child relationship is different. Whereas your children might be able to handle such a film (which is the case, obviously) there are many others that can't and the parents still don't care. I've seen plenty more irresponsible parents than I have responsible ones. Granted, that's my personal experience and I can't speak for everyone in what they've seen, but that's how it's been for me. Believe me, I'd have rather seen better examples of parenting. The only example I had that was any good, were my own parents. They sheltered me some, sure, but they did it out of a good, kind hearted mentality.

Some children are obviously capable of handling films that aren't aimed at them (I still can't stomach Alien(s), but I've known families who'd sit around and watch Ripley blow crap up.) and other children can't...yet their parents don't give a crap and let them see terrible stuff and can't figure out why the kid ain't doin' well with that material. It's those kids, those families that something like this is for.

I have a 2 year old daughter who LOVES "tah-moo-mers", of course we don't let her watch the 07 movie, but she does watch the special features disc sometimes.

on a related note, does it make me a bad father, if my 2 yr old cas quote Megatron:

"No Pyme, it juss me!"

"Oh, so sunwise!"

*collective AWWwwww*

Sentry Prime wrote:"No Pyme, it juss me!"

"Oh, so sunwise!"

Awesome. That would make a hell of a youtube with her voice cut over the movie scenes...

Now is time for all us to vote for Optimus Prime for PRESIDENT

And nobody protests against dutch toy stores selling porn.

rhinox555 wrote:And nobody protests against dutch toy stores selling porn.

LOL yeah but are they "adult toys" then if there's porn being sold in them ? ah ha ha ha ha!