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two allsparks?

Postby mikedude » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:18 pm

maybe im making something ot of nothing and perhaps im reading into it too much but remember when sam was on the top of the building and said to megs "i'll never give you THIS allspark?" Well, which other allsprak did he think megs wanted? maybe there's another allspark out there in space. just a theory...
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Postby Izanami » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:48 pm

Even if there was, how would Sam know about it?
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Postby mikedude » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:08 pm

autobots knew aboout it and told him
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Postby Scatterlung » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:15 pm

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Well the Autobots refered to it as THE cube throughout... So no. Sam's just being awkward. I didn't like that line too much...
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Postby mikedude » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:23 pm

i thought it was a clumsly line also. quite a few clumsly lines throghout. like when optimus says "up you get" to sam and mikeala urging them to hoist themselves onto his hand. couldnt undestand optimus at first til i put on subtitles. i think he meant to say "up you go". guess he's still learning the language.
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Postby Burn » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:49 pm

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There probably is another AllSpark out there, after all, they "don't know where it came from".

So there probably is some higher power at there creating cubes that create life.

But as far as Sam knowing that? He didn't. People are taking it out of context. It's like someone saying "oh you want this?" and then point to an object, it doesn't mean there's more than one of those objects in existence, they're just referring to that particular object. Which is what Sam did, referring to the cube he was holding.
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Postby jaws » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:28 pm

Sam was just referring to the AllSpark he was holding.
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Postby SnipeShade » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:32 pm

Burn wrote:There probably is another AllSpark out there, after all, they "don't know where it came from".

So there probably is some higher power at there creating cubes that create life.



That gave me such a funny imagery. XD Some random being out there is just making cubes. Then lets them drift. Prolly not knowing that his cubes are actually making life somewhere in the universe. lol! Why does he makes cubes? Cuz he can...and he's real good at it. X3
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Postby ShGarland_1383 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:47 pm

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I would never have thought anything of it.

I suppose there could be more than one AllSpark. I'd assumed the AllSpark was the spark of Primus, but, as Burn pointed out, they "don't know where it came from".

Burn wrote:But as far as Sam knowing that? He didn't. People are taking it out of context. It's like someone saying "oh you want this?" and then point to an object, it doesn't mean there's more than one of those objects in existence, they're just referring to that particular object. Which is what Sam did, referring to the cube he was holding.

I think Burn's got it right here too. Sam was just saying, "I'll never give you this {thing I'm holding at the moment}!" Like I said to begin with, I wouldn't have thought anything more of it than that.
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Postby An_de » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:23 am

There couldn't be another AllSpark... In the beginning Optimus said about it's incredible power and how it traveled to Earth. He would of mentioned if there was another one. But in the Prequel Comics Sector 7 made "fake" Cube, right? I don't know if that has to do something with the question.
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Postby Hip-Hoptimus Rime » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:41 pm

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mikedude wrote:i thought it was a clumsly line also. quite a few clumsly lines throghout.


In the DVD extras, Shia himself tells Bay that "it's a sh-t line". This while actually perched on the edge of that statue, that high off the ground. :shock:
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Postby Robinson » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:19 pm

An_de wrote:There couldn't be another AllSpark... In the beginning Optimus said about it's incredible power and how it traveled to Earth. He would of mentioned if there was another one. But in the Prequel Comics Sector 7 made "fake" Cube, right? I don't know if that has to do something with the question.


Why couldn't there be, they dont know where it came from therefore they dont know if there are more than one. It also didnt travel to earth intentionally, it drifted in space and thats where it ended up.
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