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News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:29 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I dont think I'm making my self clear.And I'm not getting upset but what you guys need to understand is that at the time of my buy the toy I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH HE WAS!!!!!!!!!

I had seen a few auctions for the same toy on ebay end at price's of between $41 and $56 bucks.....and we know that a lot of figures are sold on ebay for Dubble their retail price.....more offten with the bigger one's.
So in my head I thought that the figure might have been as low as $29.99 or as high as $55.00 bucks.
So yeah when I heard $19.99 I thought there might be a mistake but it could have also been a early bird special or a store wide discount.The same Target were selling the first wave of TF clasic's at $6.99 for the first 3 weeks with singege stating it was an early release special.
It wasnt untill I posted it here that I found out just how much a deal that I got.
As for your "hypothetical".....That also happened while buying the item.The cashier while givving me my change gave me back my $50 bill in place of a $5 bill.When I notice it after walking away ,my daughter pointed it out cause she took the change to by a slurpy, we returned to the cashier an told her about the mistake she quickly count her draw and she was $50 short so we gave it back to her.....And you know what?????She turned around and kissed me and bought us lunch for our trouble.
The difference here is taking money knowingly in error is wrong but taking a lower price for somthing that you had no idea of the price is not.

About the only thing I could be accused of doing wrong in this case is that I have not taken it back NOW that I know what the price should be.

Your story keeps getting better and better. So was she cute?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I dont think I'm making my self clear.And I'm not getting upset but what you guys need to understand is that at the time of my buy the toy I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH HE WAS!!!!!!!!!

I had seen a few auctions for the same toy on ebay end at price's of between $41 and $56 bucks.....and we know that a lot of figures are sold on ebay for Dubble their retail price.....more offten with the bigger one's.
So in my head I thought that the figure might have been as low as $29.99 or as high as $55.00 bucks.
So yeah when I heard $19.99 I thought there might be a mistake but it could have also been a early bird special or a store wide discount.The same Target were selling the first wave of TF clasic's at $6.99 for the first 3 weeks with singege stating it was an early release special.
It wasnt untill I posted it here that I found out just how much a deal that I got.
As for your "hypothetical".....That also happened while buying the item.The cashier while givving me my change gave me back my $50 bill in place of a $5 bill.When I notice it after walking away ,my daughter pointed it out cause she took the change to by a slurpy, we returned to the cashier an told her about the mistake she quickly count her draw and she was $50 short so we gave it back to her.....And you know what?????She turned around and kissed me and bought us lunch for our trouble.
The difference here is taking money knowingly in error is wrong but taking a lower price for somthing that you had no idea of the price is not.

About the only thing I could be accused of doing wrong in this case is that I have not taken it back NOW that I know what the price should be.

Your story keeps getting better and better. So was she cute?

Not realy kind a Buchy but if thats what your into I'll try to Hook you up

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:37 pm

I ment Butchy

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:43 pm

And was that some cute little way of implying that I might be making it up?????????To many of you guys are so willing to assume the worst in people that you sit there and past judgement on a person with out taking the time to get to know them...........find out what kind of a person he or she is..........Or even do a little reserch in to their past post to see what kind of behavior they exsibit here on the forms.I'm not one to tell false hoods or to get into heated debates with others so tell me ..................
Why the mis-trust????????????????

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:44 pm

Sledge wrote:Sto: you did nothing wrong. Hell, if it had been me, I'd have got all the cash together I could, bought all their stock, and hit ebay with them.

Lapse: ok, what would you have done? You're interested in an item, you get a price check and it comes back lower than you think it "should" be. What would you do, assuming you could reach the checkout from atop your ivory tower?

The ivory tower point was uncalled for and a low blow. It shows you have not been reading what I have written in any of my posts past the few triggers that caused your responses to me. If you are going to say something like that, at least do it somewhere where you can back it up. Let's look at sme of my past quotes:

Lapse of Reason wrote:I'm not professing to stand on any moral high ground anyway.

Lapse of Reason wrote:Not to say I would not have done the same thing, I just do not hold the action in a positive light. If it were me walking out, I'd be excited about it too as I relished in a selfish form of delight. I can live with the guilt. It's like getting away with something for nothing.

Lapse of Reason wrote:I'm no better than Sto, I'm just calling out the action for what it truly is...

Now, to answer your question, I would have bought all of them and inquired about getting a rain check once I bought all their stock. They'd all be up on eBay, minus one or two returned to WalMart for a store credit gift card. I am an opportunist and take advantage of store screw-ups, clearance sales, and whenever an item of value seems like it won't scan at the right price at a price check scanner, I take it to the cashier to see what I can negotiate. I was one of the stronger supporters of the so-called "scalpers" in the scalper thread and maintain a pretty active eBay side business for myself.

I don't profess what I do is morally right according to my value system, but I can live happliy in my peaceful shade of gray with little guilt. I just don't say what I do is "right" or have "the little guy's revenge on big business" type of attitude. I know right from wrong, and sometimes doing wrong can feel so awfully good. Especially if it makes me money.

by **Loki41872** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:48 pm

Wow!

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And was that some cute little way of implying that I might be making it up?????????To many of you guys are so willing to assume the worst in people that you sit there and past judgement on a person with out taking the time to get to know them...........find out what kind of a person he or she is..........Or even do a little reserch in to their past post to see what kind of behavior they exsibit here on the forms.I'm not one to tell false hoods or to get into heated debates with others so tell me ..................
Why the mis-trust????????????????

Actually, it was meant to turn the heat down a bit and point out that discussions here are all just a fun little diversion. I was trying to lighten things up.

I see your point about how it could be taken wrong, but since you don't know me either you could not have known that if I thought your story was BS, I would have called you on it if I felt it was worth the time.

Seriously, I don't know if what you said about this was true or fantasy, and could really care less. I'll take what you write at face value. No mistrust from me, just no trust either. I sort of exist in a peaceful state of ambivalence when it comes to believing posters on an online message board.

And I'm not interested from kisses from "butch" girls. I'm happily married with kids anyway.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:07 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And was that some cute little way of implying that I might be making it up?????????To many of you guys are so willing to assume the worst in people that you sit there and past judgement on a person with out taking the time to get to know them...........find out what kind of a person he or she is..........Or even do a little reserch in to their past post to see what kind of behavior they exsibit here on the forms.I'm not one to tell false hoods or to get into heated debates with others so tell me ..................
Why the mis-trust????????????????

Actually, it was meant to turn the heat down a bit and point out that discussions here are all just a fun little diversion. I was trying to lighten things up.

I see your point about how it could be taken wrong, but since you don't know me either you could not have known that if I thought your story was BS, I would have called you on it if I felt it was worth the time.

Seriously, I don't know if what you said about this was true or fantasy, and could really care less. I'll take what you write at face value. No mistrust from me, just no trust either. I sort of exist in a peaceful state of ambivalence when it comes to believing posters on an online message board.

And I'm not interested from kisses from "butch" girls. I'm happily married with kids anyway.

I guess we have more in common then I first thought????????I too,am one who does not enjoy conflict.I prefer peacefull conversation to a heated debate.I guess we just see things differently?????????
I mysel have 3 daughters and on my 2nd wife.
Well I hope this is the end of this debate.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:26 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I guess we have more in common then I first thought????????I too,am one who does not enjoy conflict.I prefer peacefull conversation to a heated debate.I guess we just see things differently?????????
I mysel have 3 daughters and on my 2nd wife.
Well I hope this is the end of this debate.

Maybe we do. I actually enjoy debate, although some of the "debates" here never seem to end with anything productive. Which is a shame, because then people resort to name-calling and being rude, all the enjoyment of the debate quickly turns sour, and then the thread gets locked.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:29 pm

Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:40 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I guess we have more in common then I first thought????????I too,am one who does not enjoy conflict.I prefer peacefull conversation to a heated debate.I guess we just see things differently?????????
I mysel have 3 daughters and on my 2nd wife.
Well I hope this is the end of this debate.

Maybe we do. I actually enjoy debate, although some of the "debates" here never seem to end with anything productive. Which is a shame, because then people resort to name-calling and being rude, all the enjoyment of the debate quickly turns sour, and then the thread gets locked.

yeah I'm not one for name calling or passing judge ment on others I just like talking to others about almost anything........If what one is looking for is a fight they should do it in the outside world where they could get their asses handed to them :shock:

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:47 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

lol

luv ya babe

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:48 pm

a old sick retired klingon

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:53 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I guess we have more in common then I first thought????????I too,am one who does not enjoy conflict.I prefer peacefull conversation to a heated debate.I guess we just see things differently?????????
I mysel have 3 daughters and on my 2nd wife.
Well I hope this is the end of this debate.

Maybe we do. I actually enjoy debate, although some of the "debates" here never seem to end with anything productive. Which is a shame, because then people resort to name-calling and being rude, all the enjoyment of the debate quickly turns sour, and then the thread gets locked.

yeah I'm not one for name calling or passing judge ment on others I just like talking to others about almost anything........If what one is looking for is a fight they should do it in the outside world where they could get their asses handed to them

Can you imagine two guys sitting in a bar getting in a fist fight over an argument about the price one paid for an Ultimate Bumblebee toy! :lol:

I think the debates and heated discussions that come up on Seibertron would be laughable at best if they occured in a face to face setting. We'd more likely be too busy chugging beers, talking Transformers, and having heated smackdowns over games of Street Fighter II.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:57 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
I guess we have more in common then I first thought????????I too,am one who does not enjoy conflict.I prefer peacefull conversation to a heated debate.I guess we just see things differently?????????
I mysel have 3 daughters and on my 2nd wife.
Well I hope this is the end of this debate.

Maybe we do. I actually enjoy debate, although some of the "debates" here never seem to end with anything productive. Which is a shame, because then people resort to name-calling and being rude, all the enjoyment of the debate quickly turns sour, and then the thread gets locked.

yeah I'm not one for name calling or passing judge ment on others I just like talking to others about almost anything........If what one is looking for is a fight they should do it in the outside world where they could get their asses handed to them

Can you imagine two guys sitting in a bar getting in a fist fight over an argument about the price one paid for an Ultimate Bumblebee toy!

I think the debates and heated discussions that come up on Seibertron would be laughable at best if they occured in a face to face setting. We'd more likely be too busy chugging beers, talking Transformers, and having heated smackdowns over games of Street Fighter II.

thats my point.......all these online fight about senseless issues...........people so ready to start ww3 over them is so ridiculous it laughable.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:58 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

lol

luv ya babe

I bet if someone stole your 2309 you'd fight em right? LOL

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:02 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

lol

luv ya babe

I bet if someone stole your 2309 you'd fight em right? LOL

I would decapitate them with my Bat-leh

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:04 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

lol

luv ya babe

I bet if someone stole your 2309 you'd fight em right? LOL

I would decapitate them with my Bat-leh

Then you'd drink your vintage Bloodwine over their body right? And call it a day.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:36 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Sto vo kor, you like peace?? What kind of Klingon are you??

lol

luv ya babe

I bet if someone stole your 2309 you'd fight em right? LOL

I would decapitate them with my Bat-leh

Then you'd drink your vintage Bloodwine over their body right? And call it a day.

I would feast on his heart and dicard the rest.And sing songs of my victory!!!!!!!
Bag da th mo [fire streaks the heavens] sho ja th ro [battle has begun.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:45 pm

They'd have to write an entire opera to you! There's no better year than 2309.

by **Loki41872** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:53 pm

I like corn! I do!

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:08 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:They'd have to write an entire opera to you! There's no better year than 2309.

Maybe we shal one day sit across for each other at Quark's and share a drink?????????????

by **megatroptimus** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:19 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Why not just try to be cool with people before taking a fight to them?

I never saw that as fighting. Just discussion.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:They'd have to write an entire opera to you! There's no better year than 2309.

Maybe we shal one day sit across for each other at Quark's and share a drink?????????????

Can Garak come?

by **megatroptimus** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:22 pm

Joe123 wrote:I dunno...I think charging $80 for the damn thing in the first place is way more unethical than accepting it for a discounted price. I'd love to get one, but $80 is a rip-off. Why is it twice the price of a movie leader? Looks pretty comparable to a movie leader to me...

UBB has like triple the features. Leader figures are just that, big, with extremely primitive electronics. You can't even compare the 2.