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What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

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What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby aoxes » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:20 pm

Hi all, a little nautical nonsense is something I wish. :D

I just wanted to ask what class of submarine is Deepdive? Or at least closest to.

His "fluff", unsurprisingly, does not really say much, other than that he's a submarine...(duh)

The hull design is not a contemporary one, unless I'm mistaken; the "flat top" is prevalent in older submarines (WWII-ish). Newer subs tend to have cigar-shaped "teardrop hulls", which make them better suited to travel submerged. This design, along with the six forward torpedo tubes, make it look like a German Class XXI U-Boat (link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/SRH025-p40.jpg). However, The flat top does have four round portrusions that make it look like it has vertical tubes, which are present in modern day attack submarines.

The presence of forward dive planes, however, make it reminiscent of more modern UK sub-design. Nevertheless, the presence of a cruciform configuration for the rear dive planes makes it look American. Then again, the two-propeller design looks Soviet/WWII German.

Then again, it could just be a random design conceived by the toy designers to look like a mish-mash of sub classes.

I'd say, overall impression-wise, it looks most like the Class XXI U-Boat. What do you guys think?

For reference, here's a picture of Deepdive - http://www.tfu.info/2006/Mini-Con/Deepdive/vehiclemode.jpg
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby Valandar » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:06 pm

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It's a generic submarine as created by the toy designers.
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby aoxes » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:43 pm

Valandar wrote:It's a generic submarine as created by the toy designers.


I see. But which classes do you think have they drawn inspiration from?

Meanwhile, are there any submarine fans here? Or is it just me. :(

Upon closer inspection, it does look like a cross between the Type IID U-boat (hull dimensions) and the Type XXI (diveplane placement/orientation and number of torpedo tubes). :)

Edit: On a side note, Dive-Dive of the Gobots was actually based on a Los Angeles-class submarine. :)
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby Valandar » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:47 pm

Motto: "It doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty, only that you work to make it full."
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I really don't think the toy designers took reference from any specific sub, but rather from probably half a dozen or more random photos of all sorts of subs and such, and took what details they thought "looked" cool.
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby zodconvoy » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:06 pm

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They didn't draw any inspiration from any military submarines but from the generalized depictions of submarines that you would find in cartoons and bathtub toys. To me, it almost looks like the sub was a random anime type not based anything that has ever been made. Cybertron was primarily Takara designed and it shows.
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby Galvatron X » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:24 pm

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aoxes wrote:Hi all, a little nautical nonsense is something I wish. :D

Then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!



Yeah, like these guys said, I don't think they were directly mimicking any one design. But, I definitely thought "U-Boat" too, judging by the looks of Deep Dive's bow.
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Re: What class of submarine is the Mini-con Deepdive (closest to)?

Postby aoxes » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:37 pm

Awesome, thanks y'all.
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