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What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sat May 14, 2011 2:01 am

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deathy wrote:
amtm wrote:I think the real takeaway from all of this is that Masterpiece toys (as they are now) often feature excellent aesthetics and often very interesting engineering, but very poor execution in materials and durability. If every Masterpiece were as solid as Prime, and as reasonably priced as Skywarp ($60 originally, $30 on clearance), I'd buy them all. But since many are not designed to withstand play or even light handling, there's little enjoyment to get out of them. It's one of those cases where a company believes by sticking a fancy name and a premium price tag on something, it can make a lot of money, but it fails to make the necessary investment (in materials, redesign, quality control, whatever) to make the product live up to expectations.


This isn't fact it's a opinion.

You appear to not even own all 5 new mold MP TF toys released thus far.

Honestly,forming a opinion on things not ownned & not played with makes ZERO sense.


So you're saying just because he doesn't own all of the MP molds, he can't talk about this? I only own 3 MPs. 2 of which are repaints. Does that make me unable to comment even after personally handling most of them anyway? Also, based on that post, you don't even know if he owns them all.

I'm not sure anymore if you like to troll or not with this. MPs are nice, but so far everything in this thread has done a pretty good job of showing that if you want Quality and durability then MP is not the way to go. If you want some aesthetically awesome, then MP all the way.

You're treating this all like everything you say is fact, when just as you said about amtm's post, it's a opinion. You are of the opinion that MP's are the end all of figures. The general consensus of this thread is against that way of thinking. Personally I don't care at this point. To each their own.

I'm going to buy whatever I want because a rant or 2 on the net is going to deter me from buying stuff.

What keeps me from buying stuff are massive QC issues which have been prevalent is current MP figures. That's why I'm waiting for the second version of rodimus.



Fine,if anyone wants to form Experience opinions based off other peoples experience opinions then do as you please.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sat May 14, 2011 2:07 am

Robo Freak & Burn,

amtm wrote the following sentence in his reply above.

AMTM wrote: "If every Masterpiece were as solid as Prime, and as reasonably priced as Skywarp ($60 originally, $30 on clearance), I'd buy them all."

This sentence written by amtm CLEARLY implies he doesn't own all the MP TF toys.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby Kibble » Sat May 14, 2011 2:11 am

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deathy wrote:Robo Freak & Burn,

amtm wrote the following sentence in his reply above.

AMTM wrote: "If every Masterpiece were as solid as Prime, and as reasonably priced as Skywarp ($60 originally, $30 on clearance), I'd buy them all."

This sentence written by amtm CLEARLY implies he doesn't own all the MP TF toys.

Unless he's saying he'd buy all 10 of the hypothetical MPs released per year...
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby Burn » Sat May 14, 2011 2:14 am

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deathy wrote:Honestly,forming a opinion on things not ownned & not played with makes ZERO sense.


Masterpieces aren't designed for playing.

I own all the molds, and I can most certaintly state that they are clearly NOT designed for playing.

The complexity of them combined with the excessive price tag pretty much guarantees that most people are not going to invest a lot of money into something that will wear over time with constant playing.

And I know this for fact because I broke the hip mechanism in my MP-01 from too much playing.

Yawn ... bored now.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby RogueDeathangel » Sat May 14, 2011 5:02 am

Nah, I don't really like the MP figures.

I'm much more interested in the engineering in the voyager/deluxe/scout classes. I'm not even really into the Leader size class.

For me, scale is a big issue. With the classics/henkei/universe/generations (I refuse to use the term CHUG without giggling) you can have some semblance of scale, whereas with the MP figures it's a bit more of a poop-shoot.

Also, the MP line seems pretty much resigned to legacy characters from G1. I like new characters in my fiction (lockdown from TF:A, Breakout from Prime etc) which you're more likely to get from the fiction-realted lines and the Classics-style lines.


That said, if it HasTakTom were in a position where it was financially viable for them to put out 10 new MPs a year then I'd be all for it, since that would mean that the smaller-scale lines would be selling like CRAZY which, in turn, would give us even more of the smaller-scale lines! :grin:
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby amtm » Sat May 14, 2011 5:16 am

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deathy wrote:This isn't fact it's a opinion.

You appear to not even own all 5 new mold MP TF toys released thus far.

Honestly,forming a opinion on things not ownned & not played with makes ZERO sense.

I never said it was anything more than opinion. And forming opinions based on information received from lots of knowledgeable collectors like those on this forum makes perfect sense. I'd much rather learn from someone else's bad experience than have a bad experience of my own. By reading and watching reviews and comments I am able to hone in on the toys with fewer problems and better designs.

I thought for a minute I could contribute to this discussion without leading to any more arguing. I was wrong. You need to lighten up and realize that the point here is to share opinions and learn from each other, not put down everyone who doesn't agree with you--which, by the way, is pretty much everyone from the looks of it. What exactly is the point of starting a thread only to argue with everyone who comments on it just because they don't share your opinion that "Masterpiece" necessarily equals "quality"?

I'm done with this thread, so don't waste your time trying to argue with this post.

P.S. For the reasonable people on this thread who have commented, I meant I'd buy all molds Hasbro or Takara actually produced in the past or future--not necessarily the ones on Mr. Deathy's wishlist. I currently own three, and am debating about whether to give the others a try.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby joesaysso » Sat May 14, 2011 7:24 am

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As an innocent bystander, on the outside looking in at this thread, I would like to say; from page 1 until now, this is absolutely one of the stupidest threads I have ever read in any forum that I have ever been in. Ever.

Firstly, it was an opinionated question from the get-go. However, it was clear from the very second post of the thread that the OP was not going to respect or allow anybody else's opinion but his own because he responded aggressively against the very first response that went against his opinion. Those of you who contributed to this thread after that only encouraged and escalated this atrocity of a thread.

Secondly, arguing over Australian economy and laws is so stupidly off-topic to the original question that its ridiculous. The original topic boils down to a simple yes or no question. "Would you be happy if Hasbro did this........?" Yes or no? Some of you may have convinced yourself that this is part of the main point but I assure you, if you are talking about Austrailian taxes, you've gone too far off the course.

Thirdly, Deathy arguing that its "quality over quantity" is insinuating that there is no "quality" in any of the other lines. This is utterly absurd. Why anybody even responded to any of his posts beyond the opening one is beyond me. The topic itself, while slightly thought provoking, is dumb. Why? Because no collector wants less of what they collect. Why collect it then? Deathy says that he "doesn't collect transformers to fill a room" then why does he collect? Nobody collects transformers to fill a room. They buy what they like and the room filling up naturally happens as a ripple effect of the collecting. Eventually Deathy, one of your rooms would fill up if Hasbro made all of those MPs on your list in the beginning and you bought them all.

Fourthly, I love a good argument as much as the next person. Believe me, I love to argue. But I like to argue with valid points and actually possible scenarios. Sadly, there isn't one valid point in anything you people are debating. First of all, again, the original topic is stupid. And its not stupid because I think its stupid. No, its stupid because it isn't practical for anybody involved and can't feasibly happen under any circumstances that weren't strictly hypothetical. Its not practical for Has/Tak to produce 10 MPs a year. Its not practical for stores to stock 10 MPs a year, and its not practical for 7 year old kids to buy 10 MPs a year. Anybody who wastes their time arguing for this scenario is dumb. And anybody who argues with the idiot who argues for this scenario is also dumb.

Allow me to demonstrate for you all how this thread should have gone:

Deathy: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Joe: I would be very displeased.

Deathy: Why? MPs are so awesome! I love them. I'd rather have 10 awesome transformers a year than a bunch of junky, simple ones. You don't want that?

Joe: MPs are awesome, yeah. I'd love that! But I also enjoy the simplicity and diversity that the other lines provide to my collection. Its kind of cool that the classics provide a nice contrast to the MPs while almost looking like they could be in the same line. It really makes my collection look great.

Deathy: Well, I don't collect transformers to fill a room.

Joe: Neither do I. I believe in quality over quantity too. Thats why I buy only the ones that I really enjoy. The filling of the room kind of happens on its own. You don't think that you'll eventually have enough MPs to fill a room?

Deathy: Well.........touchee........

Joe: ............

Deathy: But what if Austrailia put tax breaks on the companies who made and sold the toys so they were cheaper? What about it then?

Joe: What?

Deathy: I don't know.


You are all welcome for that performance. Now really, there is nothing more to be said on this topic. I fear we all have lost some intelligence quotient for participating in this thread. Some of us cannot afford to lose much more. Lets go all go back to our holes until somebody finds a topic that people can actually argue smartly about.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sat May 14, 2011 7:54 am

joesaysso wrote:As an innocent bystander, on the outside looking in at this thread, I would like to say; from page 1 until now, this is absolutely one of the stupidest threads I have ever read in any forum that I have ever been in. Ever.

Firstly, it was an opinionated question from the get-go. However, it was clear from the very second post of the thread that the OP was not going to respect or allow anybody else's opinion but his own because he responded aggressively against the very first response that went against his opinion. Those of you who contributed to this thread after that only encouraged and escalated this atrocity of a thread.

Secondly, arguing over Australian economy and laws is so stupidly off-topic to the original question that its ridiculous. The original topic boils down to a simple yes or no question. "Would you be happy if Hasbro did this........?" Yes or no? Some of you may have convinced yourself that this is part of the main point but I assure you, if you are talking about Austrailian taxes, you've gone too far off the course.

Thirdly, Deathy arguing that its "quality over quantity" is insinuating that there is no "quality" in any of the other lines. This is utterly absurd. Why anybody even responded to any of his posts beyond the opening one is beyond me. The topic itself, while slightly thought provoking, is dumb. Why? Because no collector wants less of what they collect. Why collect it then? Deathy says that he "doesn't collect transformers to fill a room" then why does he collect? Nobody collects transformers to fill a room. They buy what they like and the room filling up naturally happens as a ripple effect of the collecting. Eventually Deathy, one of your rooms would fill up if Hasbro made all of those MPs on your list in the beginning and you bought them all.

Fourthly, I love a good argument as much as the next person. Believe me, I love to argue. But I like to argue with valid points and actually possible scenarios. Sadly, there isn't one valid point in anything you people are debating. First of all, again, the original topic is stupid. And its not stupid because I think its stupid. No, its stupid because it isn't practical for anybody involved and can't feasibly happen under any circumstances that weren't strictly hypothetical. Its not practical for Has/Tak to produce 10 MPs a year. Its not practical for stores to stock 10 MPs a year, and its not practical for 7 year old kids to buy 10 MPs a year. Anybody who wastes their time arguing for this scenario is dumb. And anybody who argues with the idiot who argues for this scenario is also dumb.

Allow me to demonstrate for you all how this thread should have gone:

Deathy: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Joe: I would be very displeased.

Deathy: Why? MPs are so awesome! I love them. I'd rather have 10 awesome transformers a year than a bunch of junky, simple ones. You don't want that?

Joe: MPs are awesome, yeah. I'd love that! But I also enjoy the simplicity and diversity that the other lines provide to my collection. Its kind of cool that the classics provide a nice contrast to the MPs while almost looking like they could be in the same line. It really makes my collection look great.

Deathy: Well, I don't collect transformers to fill a room.

Joe: Neither do I. I believe in quality over quantity too. Thats why I buy only the ones that I really enjoy. The filling of the room kind of happens on its own. You don't think that you'll eventually have enough MPs to fill a room?

Deathy: Well.........touchee........

Joe: ............

Deathy: But what if Austrailia put tax breaks on the companies who made and sold the toys so they were cheaper? What about it then?

Joe: What?

Deathy: I don't know.


You are all welcome for that performance. Now really, there is nothing more to be said on this topic. I fear we all have lost some intelligence quotient for participating in this thread. Some of us cannot afford to lose much more. Lets go all go back to our holes until somebody finds a topic that people can actually argue smartly about.


Joe,your recap of the thread is way off & way oppossite.

Here's how it went down step by step:

I asked would various TF fans like 10 MP TF toys per year.

In the beginning of the thread most stated the prices were too high.

I then said only if your buying the takara versions. the hasbro versions are cheaper priced about the price of AEC leaders & supreme sized TF toys. since the MP TF toys are big,paying on average from $40 to $60 wasn't a bad deal.

Then someone said the austrailan prices were high for everything TF toys.

I stated this wasn't hasbro's/takara's fault,as hasbro sells these MP TF toys to austraila for cheap.

Others complained about austraila taking the thread off topic.

Eventually the thread went back on track.

for a few pages,their was a interesting debate on quanity verses quality. some preferred to grab a whole room full of cheaper priced smaller TF toys. while others were more selective & prefered to go with higher quality TF toys in less volume units.

Then some were giving experience opinions based on TF MP toys they never played with.

I stated my opinion on that matter.

thee end.

I wasn't trying to argue in this thread & shoot everyone's idea down.
since this is a discussion board. I figured I'd do a little debatting within the thread. I didn't call no one names,didn't curse at anyone. I wasn't using all caps. I acted politely & debated in a professional manner. I wasn't the one who kept taking the thread off topic a few times,others were.

might I add that Joe did insult me a few times in this thread. by calling me & this thread stupid almost a dozen times. their were also other demeanig & insulting words joe used in this thread in his reply.

Sorry,If I upset everyone in this thread,it wasn't my intent. I'll be leaving this forum for a while & i'll post elsewhere.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby joesaysso » Sat May 14, 2011 8:38 am

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deathy wrote:Joe,your recap of the thread is way off & way oppossite.

Here's how it went down step by step:

I asked would various TF fans like 10 MP TF toys per year.

In the beginning of the thread most stated the prices were too high.

I then said only if your buying the takara versions. the hasbro versions are about the price of AEC leaders & supreme sized TF toys.

Then someone took the thread off track by mentioning austrailian prices.

I stated this wasn't hasbro/takara fault,as hasbro sells these MP toys to austraila for cheap.

Eventually the thread went back on track.

for a few pages,their was a interesting debate on quanity verses quality. some preferred to grab a whole room full of cheaper priced smaller TF toys. while others were more selective & prefered to go with higher quality TF toys in less volume units.

Then some were giving experience opinions based on TF MP toys they never played with.

I stated my opinion on that matter.

thee end.




I read it all. Your recap is un-necessary. Your intent was to argue right out of the gate. If it wasn't you wouldn't have chimed in so immediately and aggressively. Really it was a harmless question you posed. You asked for people's opinions and they gave it to you. The problem was that you wanted to conflict with nearly every single opinion. And the worse part was that you did a terrible job at it. Period, end of story.

deathy wrote:I wasn't trying to argue in this thread & shoot everyone's idea down.
since this is a discussion board. I figured I'd do a little debatting within the thread.


Yeah and therein lies the problem. You asked a simple question, received simple answers and then wanted to "debate" everything, turning something simple into a fiasco of idiocy. Next time ask a more complex question that opens itself up for a debate and you won't come out looking as much the fool. Debating why people simply like things is ridiculous and makes you look like a jerk. Would you like to debate why I like white sneakers over black? How about we debate why I chose the red case for my cell phone over the blue one?

deathy wrote:might I add that Joe did insult me a few times in this thread. by calling me & this thread stupid almost a dozen times.


Man, was that all. I was aiming for a lot more. I should have proof-read better.


deathy wrote:their were also other demeanig & insulting words joe used in this thread in his reply.



Yeah, I guess my vocabulary is big like that.

deathy wrote:Sorry,If I upset everyone in this thread,it wasn't my intent. I'll be leaving this forum for a while & i'll post elsewhere.


Well, then. While not the original intent, if that were to happen I suppose I would have to say that the campaign exceeded its original expectations. Mission Accomplished! :KREMZEEK:
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat May 14, 2011 10:01 am

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deathy wrote:might I add that Joe did insult me a few times in this thread. by calling me & this thread stupid almost a dozen times.

joesaysso wrote:Man, was that all. I was aiming for a lot more. I should have proof-read better.


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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby alternator77 » Sat May 14, 2011 10:22 am

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INSPITE OF THE BICKERING ON HERE LETS BE REAL.
AT 250 FOR SLEEP CONVOY AND 200 RODIMUS AND NOW 250 FOR A REMOLD OF MP PRIME THEY ARE SLOWLY PRICING OUT ALOT OF COLLECTORS. SURE THERE WILL BE COMPLETIONISTS OUT THERE BUT THE MAJORITY OF US MYSELF INCLUDED ARE CASUAL ABOUT THE MP LINE IN THAT I DONT OWN THE BLK PRIME/ GREENSCREAM/SLEEP/MP-4/RODIMUS OR COMIC GRIMLOCK.
THAT SAID THE ONES I DO OWN 7 TOTAL ARE GREAT NOT FANTASTIC JUST GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. :D




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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sat May 14, 2011 8:37 pm

alternator77 wrote:INSPITE OF THE BICKERING ON HERE LETS BE REAL.
AT 250 FOR SLEEP CONVOY AND 200 RODIMUS AND NOW 250 FOR A REMOLD OF MP PRIME THEY ARE SLOWLY PRICING OUT ALOT OF COLLECTORS. SURE THERE WILL BE COMPLETIONISTS OUT THERE BUT THE MAJORITY OF US MYSELF INCLUDED ARE CASUAL ABOUT THE MP LINE IN THAT I DONT OWN THE BLK PRIME/ GREENSCREAM/SLEEP/MP-4/RODIMUS OR COMIC GRIMLOCK.
THAT SAID THE ONES I DO OWN 7 TOTAL ARE GREAT NOT FANTASTIC JUST GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. :D




sorry i forgot to turn off the caps lock didnt mean to yell :D



Those high MP TF Prices only are for those buying the Takara version.

The hasbro MP TF Versions (in america) are way cheaper in price.

My solid "GUESS" is Hasbro will sell both MP-09 Rodimus & MP-10 Optimus without their trailers. My "GUESS" is the price (in america) for both toys will be under $60. With all the sales that USA retail stores offer,The average internet TF fan will pay under $50 for each MP TF Hasbro version toy.

Personally paying around $50 to $60 isn't a bad nor high price to pay for a 9.5 inch robot mode. usually a 9.5 robot mode is considered a AEC $39.99 leader sized TF toy height. paying like $10 extra for a MP TF hasbro toy isn't a bad deal. considering one is getting more accessories,more accurate updated homage design. diecast metal parts,more poseability & higher toy engineering.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby Jazz-1982 » Sat May 14, 2011 10:12 pm

I liked a lot of the ideas on your list but 10 MPs would be way too expensive for a year. If it was 6 a year then I'd be ok with it as I collect only a very few select lines anyway and my most wanted figures were all in your list.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby alternator77 » Sun May 15, 2011 8:56 am

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deathy wrote:
alternator77 wrote:INSPITE OF THE BICKERING ON HERE LETS BE REAL.
AT 250 FOR SLEEP CONVOY AND 200 RODIMUS AND NOW 250 FOR A REMOLD OF MP PRIME THEY ARE SLOWLY PRICING OUT ALOT OF COLLECTORS. SURE THERE WILL BE COMPLETIONISTS OUT THERE BUT THE MAJORITY OF US MYSELF INCLUDED ARE CASUAL ABOUT THE MP LINE IN THAT I DONT OWN THE BLK PRIME/ GREENSCREAM/SLEEP/MP-4/RODIMUS OR COMIC GRIMLOCK.
THAT SAID THE ONES I DO OWN 7 TOTAL ARE GREAT NOT FANTASTIC JUST GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. :D




sorry i forgot to turn off the caps lock didnt mean to yell :D



Those high MP TF Prices only are for those buying the Takara version.

The hasbro MP TF Versions (in america) are way cheaper in price.

My solid "GUESS" is Hasbro will sell both MP-09 Rodimus & MP-10 Optimus without their trailers. My "GUESS" is the price (in america) for both toys will be under $60. With all the sales that USA retail stores offer,The average internet TF fan will pay under $50 for each MP TF Hasbro version toy.

Personally paying around $50 to $60 isn't a bad nor high price to pay for a 9.5 inch robot mode. usually a 9.5 robot mode is considered a AEC $39.99 leader sized TF toy height. paying like $10 extra for a MP TF hasbro toy isn't a bad deal. considering one is getting more accessories,more accurate updated homage design. diecast metal parts,more poseability & higher toy engineering.


ihear where your coming from my concern is that if that is all hastak produce they wouldnt do very well even at that price point megatron will never be sold in a retail
store until the laws change and last time i checked magnus never came stateside. also although grimlock did ok theyre still trying to line up a retailer for rodimus being that hes an exclusive. on a personal note i would not want them to focus on mp's only think about it this way ive purchased my nephew 3 mp's all us releases but those are the only ones he likes out of the entire line on the other hand hes spent triple that on classics/movie/pcc stuff over the last 2 years. again it comes back to the kids as hes 8 years old.

keep in mind the hasbro release of grimlock had NOWHERE NEAR the amount of accesories as mp-8 also of note the only mp's with diecast are grimlock,and the prime molds.again dont get me wrong ive often fantasized about having a wall full of mp's in package but ive got to get what works in my collection and with their size its too much since ive already got a room full of them.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sun May 15, 2011 4:45 pm

alternator77 wrote:
deathy wrote:
alternator77 wrote:INSPITE OF THE BICKERING ON HERE LETS BE REAL.
AT 250 FOR SLEEP CONVOY AND 200 RODIMUS AND NOW 250 FOR A REMOLD OF MP PRIME THEY ARE SLOWLY PRICING OUT ALOT OF COLLECTORS. SURE THERE WILL BE COMPLETIONISTS OUT THERE BUT THE MAJORITY OF US MYSELF INCLUDED ARE CASUAL ABOUT THE MP LINE IN THAT I DONT OWN THE BLK PRIME/ GREENSCREAM/SLEEP/MP-4/RODIMUS OR COMIC GRIMLOCK.
THAT SAID THE ONES I DO OWN 7 TOTAL ARE GREAT NOT FANTASTIC JUST GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. :D




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Those high MP TF Prices only are for those buying the Takara version.

The hasbro MP TF Versions (in america) are way cheaper in price.

My solid "GUESS" is Hasbro will sell both MP-09 Rodimus & MP-10 Optimus without their trailers. My "GUESS" is the price (in america) for both toys will be under $60. With all the sales that USA retail stores offer,The average internet TF fan will pay under $50 for each MP TF Hasbro version toy.

Personally paying around $50 to $60 isn't a bad nor high price to pay for a 9.5 inch robot mode. usually a 9.5 robot mode is considered a AEC $39.99 leader sized TF toy height. paying like $10 extra for a MP TF hasbro toy isn't a bad deal. considering one is getting more accessories,more accurate updated homage design. diecast metal parts,more poseability & higher toy engineering.


ihear where your coming from my concern is that if that is all hastak produce they wouldnt do very well even at that price point megatron will never be sold in a retail
store until the laws change and last time i checked magnus never came stateside. also although grimlock did ok theyre still trying to line up a retailer for rodimus being that hes an exclusive. on a personal note i would not want them to focus on mp's only think about it this way ive purchased my nephew 3 mp's all us releases but those are the only ones he likes out of the entire line on the other hand hes spent triple that on classics/movie/pcc stuff over the last 2 years. again it comes back to the kids as hes 8 years old.

keep in mind the hasbro release of grimlock had NOWHERE NEAR the amount of accesories as mp-8 also of note the only mp's with diecast are grimlock,and the prime molds.again dont get me wrong ive often fantasized about having a wall full of mp's in package but ive got to get what works in my collection and with their size its too much since ive already got a room full of them.


All 5 new mold MP Takara/Hasbro toys sold in Japan/America had some diecast metal parts included.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

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while only partly true mp prime at his original us release was $100 BECAUSE of the diecast the only reason the newer versions are cheaper is the lack of diecast.pins and screws dont really count as diecast imo if that were the case every tf with a pin or screw would be considered die cast.

this will be my last post on this topic as im not a fan of this back and forth point for point discussion to increase someones post count. sorry but thats my feeling on this subject.
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Re: What if hasbro/takara just released 10 MP TF toys per year & that's it,would you be happy or upset?

Postby dinogeist » Sun May 15, 2011 11:08 pm

alternator77 wrote:while only partly true mp prime at his original us release was $100 BECAUSE of the diecast the only reason the newer versions are cheaper is the lack of diecast.pins and screws dont really count as diecast imo if that were the case every tf with a pin or screw would be considered die cast.

this will be my last post on this topic as im not a fan of this back and forth point for point discussion to increase someones post count. sorry but thats my feeling on this subject.



Rather than me explaining all/some of the diecast metal parts each MP TF toy has. I'll do something better & provide some U-tube links with other TF fans explaining where the diecast metal parts are on each MP TF new mold toy.

MP Starscreams U-tube video toy review: at around 10:54 in the video the guy explains theirs some diecast parts on the lower stomach & back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrW6QJCu ... 2626F25CD1

MP Convoy U-tube video toy review: at around 03:30 the guy explains where some of the diecast metal parts are on the toy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PawvKjOL ... grec_index

MP Megatron U-tube video toy review: at around 03:48 the guy explains where the diecast metal parts are on the toy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58X1OP47wpw

I couldn't find any U-tube videos where the guy mentions the die cast metal parts. so I did the next best thing & serached the internet for typed written MP Grimlock toy reviews.
in this link the guy mentions where the diecast metal parts are on mp grimlock:
http://www.oafe.net/poe/tf_20grim.php

here's a copy & pasted part from the guys mp grimlock typed review describing where the diecast metal parts are on the toy:
"As far as I've been able to tell, the only die cast metal parts on the figure are the claws on the feet, the gold hips, the pelvis and a few of the smaller parts used in the transformation."

MP Rodimus Prime U-tube toy review showing where the diecast metal parts are on the toy.

This U-Tube is only 22 seconds long & was done by yours trully deathy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCwJ3jjQX30

The last u-tube video belongs to me/deathy. Please check out all my u-tube videos.
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