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im with sonray, and it makes me laugh to think people actually still think this movie is going to "fail"

Sonray wrote:

Nico wrote:1-2 are highly probable, but 3-4 is till possible. I was just saying wwe will have to judge for ourself.
But critic will pan this!

Im also saying that there are still a slim chance that this film actually work. Its slim, but its there....

By "work" what do you mean?

As far as i can tell the film will be a great success on all fronts. Lets see many TF fans are wetting themselves to see it, it does infact have ALOT of G1 elements in there for all the whiners out there too. The characters look great on screen and the CGI is mind boggling, the merchandise is selling well, the new line of toys are very likeable and all the kids are gonna want em after theyve seen the film even if they wasnt transfans to begin with.

Then theres the simple fact that this is a pure popcorn money-making summer blockbuster, with huge names behind it which always catch the general audiences' eyes, i.e., Micheal Bay and Steven Speilberg.

I cant see this being anything but a success on nearly every level. Its not gonna win any awards for story telling, but it certainly is going to do exactly what a movie should do. Entertain.

Well, i ogt nothing to say about it....YOUR RIGHT!
But im STILL suspicious...

But make no mistake, i can't stop thinking about this film! I hope it will work, but im stillnot sure...

Nico wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Nico wrote:1-2 are highly probable, but 3-4 is till possible. I was just saying wwe will have to judge for ourself.
But critic will pan this!

Im also saying that there are still a slim chance that this film actually work. Its slim, but its there....

By "work" what do you mean?

As far as i can tell the film will be a great success on all fronts. Lets see many TF fans are wetting themselves to see it, it does infact have ALOT of G1 elements in there for all the whiners out there too. The characters look great on screen and the CGI is mind boggling, the merchandise is selling well, the new line of toys are very likeable and all the kids are gonna want em after theyve seen the film even if they wasnt transfans to begin with.

Then theres the simple fact that this is a pure popcorn money-making summer blockbuster, with huge names behind it which always catch the general audiences' eyes, i.e., Micheal Bay and Steven Speilberg.

I cant see this being anything but a success on nearly every level. Its not gonna win any awards for story telling, but it certainly is going to do exactly what a movie should do. Entertain.

Well, i ogt nothing to say about it....YOUR RIGHT!
But im STILL suspicious...

But make no mistake, i can't stop thinking about this film! I hope it will work, but im stillnot sure...

Im always right.

Nah i just know how the movie business works and what people pay to see and the general demand and what makes a successful film per its genre etc etc.

Ya never know, maybe i'll be at the helm of a TF movie one day, and i will mess up the designs even more just to piss you guys off! HAHA!

Bottom Out wrote:im with sonray, and it makes me laugh to think people actually still think this movie is going to "fail"

It's funny, ain't it? But then again, people like that would argue that the sky isn't blue.

Oh there is no question this movie will make money. I haven't doubted that from the outset. And anyone that does is a fool that clearly hasn't been paying attention to the hype train this film is rolling on. Every idiot that has the least little inkling of my Transformers interest has been asking me about the movie. I have not heard one person outside of the fandom think it is going to be anything but pure excitement.

And yet...

i was 7 when the transformers first came on tv. I loved it. been a fan ever since, i liked the movie..


it is not going to be what everyone wants, but it is a good inbetween that does stay true to the g1 story in most ways.


People need to learn to get lost in the movies and just enjoy them..

it is giant robots, fighting .blowing up things with awesome sound and they transform in front of you.. to see it on the big screen is awesome..


since when have critics ever decided what people see.. well some decide it but if they did bad mouth it then i would still see it.. most of the time, the movies the critics say suck or are not that good do well and are number one for a few weeks..

i form my own opinions.. i don't let others influence me when it comes to enjoying a movie i think it interesting,

if it sucks then so be it, no one to blame but myself, but it does not suck

I'm going to go out on a limb here and prophesy the following:

This movie will be one of the best earning flicks in the last few decades. Critics might love it or hate it or be neutral about it - doesn't matter - it will make big bucks and people will love it.

Why?

Robots - big realistic transforming robots.

IF this is pulled off very well and believably; awe inspiringly so - than people will think it's the best.

If the robots aren't believable - then the movie will totally tank and people will laugh.

We fans will believe - they could photo-shop in the original 80s TFs into the live action and we'd STILL believe because we love the characters...

But the general public needs to be blown away by just how amazing these big robots are - if that happens - the movie will be a winner.

Skids

This film will make some serious coin.

Those who think it will tank are off with the fairies.

Major holiday with only the usual "counter programming" options available? Transformers won't bomb. The real question, in all honesty, is will it fall below, equal, or exceed what the studio's expecting?

Personally, I'd be shocked if the film didn't double its budget with the international box office tallied($300 million), which is what most studios hope for in a major release. It's possible it'll pull that in domestic box office alone, and it could end up the year's top grossing film.

It won't beat Titanic. I'm not sure anything will ever beat Titanic, because of the freaky levels of success that film had.

KoH4711 wrote:It won't beat Titanic. I'm not sure anything will ever beat Titanic, because of the freaky levels of success that film had.

Cos it was a masterpiece of a film. *hides*

KoH4711 wrote:It won't beat Titanic. I'm not sure anything will ever beat Titanic, because of the freaky levels of success that film had.

Unless we have mases of freakishly over obsessed fans going to see it 18 times or more that's unlikely. I don't think anything will see 9+ months on the big screen like that again.

My misfortune to work in the theater at the time that movie came out. There wasn't a single showing that wasn't packed. No Titanic was not a good movie. It was the ultimate chick flick, and displayed the ultimate power of women in the cinema. You could dlearly tell when a man went to see the movie exactly who had made that decision. And quite often women would just go by themselves. Over and over and over again.

I dunno...my mind is splitted in two. I think it will fail even if everything seem to point ot a succes. And i want it to be a succes...

I think im turning insane...

Koloth wrote:

KoH4711 wrote:It won't beat Titanic. I'm not sure anything will ever beat Titanic, because of the freaky levels of success that film had.

Unless we have mases of freakishly over obsessed fans going to see it 18 times or more that's unlikely. I don't think anything will see 9+ months on the big screen like that again.

My misfortune to work in the theater at the time that movie came out. There wasn't a single showing that wasn't packed. No Titanic was not a good movie. It was the ultimate chick flick, and displayed the ultimate power of women in the cinema. You could dlearly tell when a man went to see the movie exactly who had made that decision. And quite often women would just go by themselves. Over and over and over again.

Not really. As i was just a kid back then and i begged my dad to go see it, which we did and it was packed of course. Its not a chick flick, and it is a good movie. The 11 academy awards are some evidence of that, but those aside technically its a great film, amazing cgi, awesome production values, great acting fantastic direction and a wonderful score (apart from celine dion).

Sorry but im not going to let people bash that film as its one of my all time favourites. It gets alot of undeserved flak from people who simply dont understand it and those people arent willing to give it a second chance to find out what kind of film it really is but instead just say its "crap" or "a chick flick" and thats just pathetic.

D-340 wrote:

lilcarus wrote:i for one know this movie will tank

So what's it like to have the ability to see into the future?

i dont need the ability to see the future to know what the actual box office number trends have been....this year or the years past, it is a simple system to understand....the numbers wont lie and if this movie does not do big on its first full week then thats it death to the bots.

Sonray wrote:Not really. As i was just a kid back then and i begged my dad to go see it, which we did and it was packed of course. Its not a chick flick, and it is a good movie. The 11 academy awards are some evidence of that, but those aside technically its a great film, amazing cgi, awesome production values, great acting fantastic direction and a wonderful score (apart from celine dion).

Sorry but im not going to let people bash that film as its one of my all time favourites. It gets alot of undeserved flak from people who simply dont understand it and those people arent willing to give it a second chance to find out what kind of film it really is but instead just say its "crap" or "a chick flick" and thats just pathetic.

Bah, get over it. Not everyone is going to like what you like. It was overly long boring tripe that was obvious from begining to end. LOL, not going to let people bash the film that's hilarious. Most people don't, hence the billion dollar profit margin. But believe me I understand it completely. It was a fictious, sappy, overblown, love story with a tragic ending based around the very real sinking of the titanic. Hardly difficult to understand it.

It's not even so much the question of whether Titanic was a good movie or not. It didn't have a huge opening weekend. But it just never dropped. It consistantly did $30-40 million EVERY weekend, sometimes even gaining money. I'm not sure what it would take for a film to do that again.

lilcarus wrote:
i dont need the ability to see the future to know what the actual box office number trends have been....this year or the years past, it is a simple system to understand....the numbers wont lie and if this movie does not do big on its first full week then thats it death to the bots.

You just said it yourself, IF. All signs are already pointing to a huge weekend. But, there's no point in arguing the fact, we'll know in 9 days.

Koloth wrote:

Sonray wrote:Not really. As i was just a kid back then and i begged my dad to go see it, which we did and it was packed of course. Its not a chick flick, and it is a good movie. The 11 academy awards are some evidence of that, but those aside technically its a great film, amazing cgi, awesome production values, great acting fantastic direction and a wonderful score (apart from celine dion).

Sorry but im not going to let people bash that film as its one of my all time favourites. It gets alot of undeserved flak from people who simply dont understand it and those people arent willing to give it a second chance to find out what kind of film it really is but instead just say its "crap" or "a chick flick" and thats just pathetic.

Bah, get over it. Not everyone is going to like what you like. It was overly long boring tripe that was obvious from begining to end. LOL, not going to let people bash the film that's hilarious. Most people don't, hence the billion dollar profit margin. But believe me I understand it completely. It was a fictious, sappy, overblown, love story with a tragic ending based around the very real sinking of the titanic. Hardly difficult to understand it.

Ok, let me re-phrase that then: Some people simply have no taste. It was a masterpiece, so get over it.

Mayahps I would have liked it more if I didn't have to deal the the constant flow of the idiot masses that couldn't wait for the movie to come out on DVD wasting money every weekend to watch the movie for the 15th time. It was not worth all the fuss. Masterpeice nothing it was mediocre. 2001: A Space Odysee is a masterpiece, A Clockwork Orange is a masterpiece, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and on and on.

Oh and point of fact just because someone has different taste than you does not mean they have no taste. I have a very ecleltic movie collection. Chances are there is no one that could visit and not find something to watch.

Koloth wrote:Mayahps I would have liked it more if I didn't have to deal the the constant flow of the idiot masses that couldn't wait for the movie to come out on DVD wasting money every weekend to watch the movie for the 15th time. It was not worth all the fuss. Masterpeice nothing it was mediocre. 2001: A Space Odysee is a masterpiece, A Clockwork Orange is a masterpiece, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and on and on.

And that's your opinion. You didn't enjoy Titanic but that doesn't make it a masterpiece. I'm sure someone would say LotR wasn't a masterpiece.

So if people want to call Titanic a masterpiece, that's their right, just like you have the right to call 2001, CO and LOTR masterpieces.

Burn wrote:And that's your opinion.

This is true. But sometimes it is fun to poke at people that get defensive just because you don't agree with them.

And actually I know a lot of people can't stand 2001. A 2+ hour movie with only 20 some minutes of dialogue. It is difficult to watch if you don't get the genius behind it.

Koloth wrote:

Burn wrote:And that's your opinion.

This is true. But sometimes it is fun to poke at people that get defensive just because you don't agree with them.

And actually I know a lot of people can't stand 2001. A 2+ hour movie with only 20 some minutes of dialogue. It is difficult to watch if you don't get the genius behind it.

So is Titanic if you dont get the genius behind that also.

I agree, 2001 was a masterpiece, so was clockwork orange...lotr? Hmm...from a technical standpoint yes they are impressive but they didnt do anything else for me.

The Matrix is a masterpiece, so is Titanic, T2, Blade Runner, Scarface, Pulp Fiction, Die Hard(and any of the other two), Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, Fight Club, Batman Begins, Heat, Casino Royale and for the kiddies, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Pirates Of The Caribbean etc etc etc.

I too have a very wide taste in movies and i also have a huge dvd collection (over 300). So dont go thinking you are the only one around here who knows their stuff.

I didn't suggest you didn't know your stuff. I said I don't agree that Titanic is a good movie. No, I don't see genius behind it. Like I said earlier I see " a fictious, sappy, overblown, love story with a tragic ending based around the very real sinking of the titanic." If you don't like my opinion tough.

As for the rest, nothing on that list I can really disagree with. Though I have to wonder if you have ever read the LOTR books? The books are clearly a masterpiece. They inspired and entire generation in the late 60s early 70s. And have been a major part of the world culture ever since.

My DVD collection is around 450-500. Haven't taken inventory in a few months.

Koloth wrote:I didn't suggest you didn't know your stuff. I said I don't agree that Titanic is a good movie. No, I don't see genius behind it. Like I said earlier I see " a fictious, sappy, overblown, love story with a tragic ending based around the very real sinking of the titanic." If you don't like my opinion tough.

As for the rest, nothing on that list I can really disagree with. Though I have to wonder if you have ever read the LOTR books? The books are clearly a masterpiece. They inspired and entire generation in the late 60s early 70s. And have been a major part of the world culture ever since.

My DVD collection is around 450-500. Haven't taken inventory in a few months.

Nah, i dont like reading. I havnt read a book in years, i just have no interest in reading. Im more into the visual side of things, reading just bores me and gives me a headache lol.

The only reading i do is now, right here on forums and stuff.

I havnt taken inventory of my collection either, so i might have more than 300 but i havnt been buying DVD's as much as i used to lately thanks to my obsession with buying TF's and...well...there hasnt really been much new stuff out that i want to own.

Have you seen Hot Fuzz?

Sonray wrote:Have you seen Hot Fuzz?

Personally I haven't, but I fail to see how it can stand up in comparrison to it's masterpiece "cousin" Shawn of the Dead.