The Energon Pub

by **Xterminator** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:01 pm

Jesterhead wrote:
Xterminator wrote:
- Which characters were released up to now ?

A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Vibrant Red
A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Ultimate Metal Silver
A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Super Black
A-01U Nissan GT-R - Ultra Magnus - Brilliant White Pearl (E-Hobby exclusive)
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Blade Silver
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Premium LeMans Blue
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Diamond Black
A-03 Suzuki Swift - Bumble - Champion Yellow
A-03 Suzuki Swift - Cliff - Supreme Red Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Starscream - White Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Skywarp - Witch Purple Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Thundercracker - Sonic Blue

Not sure on the dates though.

Xterminator wrote:- Am I wrong, or they all look like to be in scale with the Movies' Human Alliances ?

They are 1:32 scale, so around the size of the average deluxe in alt-mode, and about 6" tall in robot mode.

Xterminator wrote:- They all look very shine on pictures. Are they made of plastic or metal ?

They are mainly plastic, but with a decent amount of diecast parts in the main structural body. The paint applications are pretty high quality.

Xterminator wrote:Thanks for the info. Until now I only own TF movie toys and the Alternity line seems to be the kind of "high-quality" line I would like to add to my collection.

IMO, Alternity toys are the highest quality Transformers available.

Thank you very much for all this precious info !

I liked everything I heard, but I was expecting that the figures would be a bit taller.
Maybe I should watch some video-reviews before deciding to collect this line ...

by **Xterminator** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:10 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alternators is a whole different line, the domestic release of Binaltech. What you're referring to is Alternity.

Anyhow, Thundercracker (and Ultra Magnus for that matter) has just been released and with the holiday season being filled with MP Rodimus Convoy, 2010 Predaking and a couple other releases, Alternity is taking a back seat.

Very basic question: What is the difference between the Alternity and Alternators/Binaltech line ?

Thanks for the info ...

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:17 pm

Xterminator wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alternators is a whole different line, the domestic release of Binaltech. What you're referring to is Alternity.

Anyhow, Thundercracker (and Ultra Magnus for that matter) has just been released and with the holiday season being filled with MP Rodimus Convoy, 2010 Predaking and a couple other releases, Alternity is taking a back seat.

Very basic question: What is the difference between the Alternity and Alternators/Binaltech line ?

Thanks for the info ...

Size is the biggest difference. The Alternators are around Voyager Human Alliance size while the Alternity are Deluxes.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:06 pm

Diem wrote:
Xterminator wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alternators is a whole different line, the domestic release of Binaltech. What you're referring to is Alternity.

Anyhow, Thundercracker (and Ultra Magnus for that matter) has just been released and with the holiday season being filled with MP Rodimus Convoy, 2010 Predaking and a couple other releases, Alternity is taking a back seat.

Very basic question: What is the difference between the Alternity and Alternators/Binaltech line ?

Thanks for the info ...

Size is the biggest difference. The Alternators are around Voyager Human Alliance size while the Alternity are Deluxes.

Another difference is that Binaltechs stay more true to the original G1 whenever possible (vehicle licensing can be a pain), and they have no Automorph whatsoever. Between Binaltech and Alternator the main differences are material (die cast for Binaltech, all plastic for Alternators) and placement of the steering wheel (Japan drives on the left side like the UK).

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:18 pm

Another difference is Alternators/Binaltechs are friggin' awesome where Alternity figure are only pretty cool.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:44 pm

Kibble wrote:Another difference is Alternity are friggin' awesome where Binaltechs figure are only pretty cool.

Fixed.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:08 pm

Well, at least fix my typo while you're at it!

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:20 am

What astonishes me is how, in every thread about Alternity, several people ask how tall they are and if they're as tall as Alt/Bin.

The Alternity is a flawed line but for some reason I still love it! Even though Prime was a big disappointment to me when I opened him I still love him.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:55 am

Mykltron wrote:What astonishes me is how, in every thread about Alternity, several people ask how tall they are and if they're as tall as Alt/Bin.

I can understand it though. From the amount of detail on them they look like larger figures, especially if you're used to Alternators.

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:38 am

Not to mention, for the price, you'd expect something a little bigger... What got me into Alternity wasn't the figures themselves, but the characters they picked and the fact that the seekers are now cars. Granted, I'm not a big fan of that particular mold, I thought that it was verrry creative. The only reasons I haven't tried Alternators is 1.) I have started collecting farrr too late for that. 2.) They were always pretty expensive. 3.) They chose some random-ass characters (i.e. Rumble and not Frenzy. Swindle and not the other Stunticons...)

by **funklizard** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:23 pm

DecepticonFinishline wrote:The only reasons I haven't tried Alternators is 1.) I have started collecting farrr too late for that. 2.) They were always pretty expensive. 3.) They chose some random-ass characters (i.e. Rumble and not Frenzy. Swindle and not the other Stunticons...)

Ahem. Swindle was a Combaticon.

by **Xterminator** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:29 pm

Mykltron wrote:What astonishes me is how, in every thread about Alternity, several people ask how tall they are and if they're as tall as Alt/Bin.

The Alternity is a flawed line but for some reason I still love it! Even though Prime was a big disappointment to me when I opened him I still love him.

Well, if you just starting collecting after and because of the movies, lines named "Alternity" or "Binaltech" sound quite exotic ...

In accordance with another post, I was wondering if the Alternity line was bigger because they look so detailed and similar to HA.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:59 pm

Xterminator wrote:
Jesterhead wrote:
Xterminator wrote:
- Which characters were released up to now ?

A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Vibrant Red
A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Ultimate Metal Silver
A-01 Nissan GT-R - Convoy - Super Black
A-01U Nissan GT-R - Ultra Magnus - Brilliant White Pearl (E-Hobby exclusive)
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Blade Silver
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Premium LeMans Blue
A-02 Nissan Fairlady Z - Megatron - Diamond Black
A-03 Suzuki Swift - Bumble - Champion Yellow
A-03 Suzuki Swift - Cliff - Supreme Red Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Starscream - White Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Skywarp - Witch Purple Pearl
A-04 Mitsuoka Orochi - Thundercracker - Sonic Blue

Not sure on the dates though.

Xterminator wrote:- Am I wrong, or they all look like to be in scale with the Movies' Human Alliances ?

They are 1:32 scale, so around the size of the average deluxe in alt-mode, and about 6" tall in robot mode.

Xterminator wrote:- They all look very shine on pictures. Are they made of plastic or metal ?

They are mainly plastic, but with a decent amount of diecast parts in the main structural body. The paint applications are pretty high quality.

Xterminator wrote:Thanks for the info. Until now I only own TF movie toys and the Alternity line seems to be the kind of "high-quality" line I would like to add to my collection.

IMO, Alternity toys are the highest quality Transformers available.

Thank you very much for all this precious info !

I liked everything I heard, but I was expecting that the figures would be a bit taller.
Maybe I should watch some video-reviews before deciding to collect this line ...

If you do want to get into this line while saving some $, I'm selling three figures (black Megatron, Black Convoy, and Bumblebee) for a great price. Just check out my signature for details.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:38 pm

DevastaTTor wrote:If you do want to get into this line while saving some $, I'm selling three figures (black Megatron, Black Convoy, and Bumblebee) for a great price. Just check out my signature for details.

That is a helluva deal...if I didn't already have Bumble I'd be all over it! Heck, I'm tempted even having him already, but that might lead to going after other repaints in this line and I'm trying to draw the line somewhere for a change.

But if you have an awesome deal for just the two, let me know...

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:49 pm

funklizard wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:The only reasons I haven't tried Alternators is 1.) I have started collecting farrr too late for that. 2.) They were always pretty expensive. 3.) They chose some random-ass characters (i.e. Rumble and not Frenzy. Swindle and not the other Stunticons...)

Ahem. Swindle was a Combaticon.

Apologies... That's what I meant. Still, though...

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:43 pm

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
funklizard wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:The only reasons I haven't tried Alternators is 1.) I have started collecting farrr too late for that. 2.) They were always pretty expensive. 3.) They chose some random-ass characters (i.e. Rumble and not Frenzy. Swindle and not the other Stunticons...)

Ahem. Swindle was a Combaticon.

Apologies... That's what I meant. Still, though...

Alt. Rumble was red, so he could be Frenzy

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:30 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:
funklizard wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:The only reasons I haven't tried Alternators is 1.) I have started collecting farrr too late for that. 2.) They were always pretty expensive. 3.) They chose some random-ass characters (i.e. Rumble and not Frenzy. Swindle and not the other Stunticons...)

Ahem. Swindle was a Combaticon.

Apologies... That's what I meant. Still, though...

Alt. Rumble was red, so he could be Frenzy

:facepalm: Someone would.... It was only a matter of time...

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Sat May 14, 2011 11:13 am

Well, after investigating the Thundercracker comic, I've pretty much decided that Alternity is pretty much.... Over... :/

I love the figures I've obtained. A lot, actually. But, I'm not sure this is a line I want to finish if it's just Prime, Megs, Bumbles, and the Seekers. So... I think I may be selling my Alternity figures. I'd really like someone to stop me, but if there really is no hope for the Alternity line, I don't think I can hold on to them. :/

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Sat May 14, 2011 11:46 am

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Well, after investigating the Thundercracker comic, I've pretty much decided that Alternity is pretty much.... Over... :/

I love the figures I've obtained. A lot, actually. But, I'm not sure this is a line I want to finish if it's just Prime, Megs, Bumbles, and the Seekers. So... I think I may be selling my Alternity figures. I'd really like someone to stop me, but if there really is no hope for the Alternity line, I don't think I can hold on to them. :/

I don't understand your logic. If the line is over (and based on the Thundercracker comic, it looks like it is :-(

) then that makes being a completist relatively cheap in this case. If you love the figures don't sell them.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Sat May 14, 2011 12:10 pm

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I love the figures I've obtained. A lot, actually. But, I'm not sure this is a line I want to finish if it's just Prime, Megs, Bumbles, and the Seekers. So... I think I may be selling my Alternity figures. I'd really like someone to stop me, but if there really is no hope for the Alternity line, I don't think I can hold on to them. :/

Don't forget about 'Ultra' Magnus, Black Convoy, and Cliff...as well as semi-pointless black & blue Megatrons and silver Prime. There are enough of them to have an impressive display if you want to invest the cash into all the repaints. Personally, I only bought one of each mold. Cool enough figures, but not worth the price tag.

by **alternator77** » Sat May 14, 2011 2:22 pm

ive got all of them except silver convoy/megs and look forward to comleting the set this or next year.
keep in mind if your into it rerprolabels makes some great labels that would differentiate them alot more.

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Sat May 14, 2011 5:55 pm

The thing is, that I was expecting a more vast character selection when I started out. Obviously I'd love to have all of them, but it's hard to convince myself to complete it when all I get to look forward to are the same, (in my opinion, overrated) characters. I DO love the figures. My Magnus and Megs are awesome. But the only one, as a character, I'm even a fan of in the entire series is Magnus. And with the FansProject Causality figures, and the upcoming Project Deva, I'm never going to have enough money to complete the set.

(Secretly I'm really upset they didn't do an Ironhide/Ratchet. That hurt, because I felt there was a lot of potential for those characters.)

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Sat May 14, 2011 8:06 pm

DecepticonFinishline wrote:(Secretly I'm really upset they didn't do an Ironhide/Ratchet. That hurt, because I felt there was a lot of potential for those characters.)

I coulda stood having them do better Classics style figs for those two... As well a job HasTak has done with the Classics, that mold kinda sucked the big one.

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Sat May 14, 2011 10:46 pm

Kibble wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:(Secretly I'm really upset they didn't do an Ironhide/Ratchet. That hurt, because I felt there was a lot of potential for those characters.)

I coulda stood having them do better Classics style figs for those two... As well a job HasTak has done with the Classics, that mold kinda sucked the big one.

I didn't mind that mold too much, honestly. In fact, I thought it was a bit nifty. But with the detail and engineering (and, even, originality) that went into the Alternity line, Ironhide and Ratchet could've been sooo amazing. I would've much rather seen my two favorite Autobots rather than Bumble and Cliff. Again.

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Sun May 15, 2011 6:12 am

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
Kibble wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:(Secretly I'm really upset they didn't do an Ironhide/Ratchet. That hurt, because I felt there was a lot of potential for those characters.)

I coulda stood having them do better Classics style figs for those two... As well a job HasTak has done with the Classics, that mold kinda sucked the big one.

I didn't mind that mold too much, honestly. In fact, I thought it was a bit nifty. But with the detail and engineering (and, even, originality) that went into the Alternity line, Ironhide and Ratchet could've been sooo amazing. I would've much rather seen my two favorite Autobots rather than Bumble and Cliff. Again.

Other characters are mentioned in the last story like Elita-1 so there is small hope that some more figures might be made. Maybe.