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News Credits: 6 · by **bran10** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:04 pm

Cascadia wrote:the only Alt. that I had to look at the instructions is my Wheeljack. After that, he is not too hard. The only part that is annoying, is his arms in the reverse transformation.

Isn't his head annoying too?

by **Dr.Optimus** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:15 pm

Mp megatron is the hardest, without a doubt.

I don't think there will ever be one more difficult to transform, i've transformed mine quit a couple of times and it still takes me atleast 10 minutes to do so.

by **Glitcher** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:35 pm

Judge Deliberata wrote:Concept Camaro BB in particular really threw me for a loop. I misaligned his Automorph the first time through, and got a replacement.

Buddy, welcome to my world. The exact same happened to me and this is what BB looked like:

Definitely the hardest TF I've had to transform. Getting his arms to clip in place in car mode is nigh impossible without screwing the toy up.

News Credits: 3 · by **Damolisher** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:44 pm

Movie Barricade is a pain in the arse, because I can never get his legs to align properly in vehicle mode.

News Credits: 6 · by **bran10** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:46 pm

Damolisher wrote:Movie Barricade is a pain in the arse, because I can never get his legs to align properly in vehicle mode.

at first it was hella hard. on one of the knee joints, its 2 clicks the other is 3.

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:52 pm

bran10 wrote:
Cascadia wrote:the only Alt. that I had to look at the instructions is my Wheeljack. After that, he is not too hard. The only part that is annoying, is his arms in the reverse transformation.

Isn't his head annoying too?

nope

by **Dran0n** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:04 pm

Two words .........MASTERPIECE MEGATRON!!!!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:11 pm

oh ok....be careful of the caps lock. Caps are shouting on the web. I am sure that he is very difficult to transform but some of us do not have him.

News Credits: 1 · by **Judge Deliberata** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:15 pm

Glitcher wrote:Buddy, welcome to my world. The exact same happened to me and this is what BB looked like:

Definitely the hardest TF I've had to transform. Getting his arms to clip in place in car mode is nigh impossible without screwing the toy up.

Yep, EXACT same thing. It took me a month to find a new one, and I treat him carefully now. I'll never press down on his chest with any force ever again...

At first those tabs on his upper arms really bothered me, but I'm grateful now it was intended they come off that way, otherwise he'd be impossible to get back into automode. I remove them, then stuff them in later.

by **zemper** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:28 pm

fenrir72 wrote:Galvatron Beastwars

when i got this (came loose in robot mode without instructions), i was baffled too. left him in robot mode for almost a week! but after taking some time and browsing thru Seib's galleries, i finally figured out all 2 alt modes without breaking a sweat.

it's actually easy once you get the hang of it, and he's pretty sturdy (except for the dragon neck part) that he can take a few mistransformations without breaking a part or two.

:MAX:

by **Ramrider** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:36 pm

I'd go with Alt Wheeljack too, as I'd interpret the question as being 'which figure do you consistently find the most difficult/frustrating to transform'.

Some TFs are tricky the first couple of times, but you quickly get the hang of them, and they become a breeze. Most TFs I quickly get to grips with, assuming I have any trouble with them in the first place.
There are one or two that if I haven't played with them in a while it takes me a few minutes to remember how it's done (like TM2 Megatron).

Wheeljack is the only real example I can think of where I'm rarely able to transform him without a problem. I can do it, but odds are somewhere along the line his door will pop off, or I'll have trouble aligning his arms to get them into the front of the car...

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:17 pm

For me, it was my first MP Seeker, the original SS.

by **StompBrother** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:52 pm

I got stumped the second time (must have fluked it the first time) I had to transform Movie Ironhide from robot to vehicle too. It's frustrating when it happens but found that the main difficulty with Ironhide is you have to align his waist properly. Look at the manual on how its meant to be aligned. once thats aligned it's all just a matter clipping everything together. I must admit Ironhide pretty much collapses the entire shell. Fantastic engineering.

News Credits: 6 · by **bran10** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:28 am

right now, I just received my classics package, and rodimus is a pain in the ass... he's even harder then alt rodimus to me, I did both without instructions, but my classics won't line up correctly... Everything is sooo stiff that's a good thing, but the exhausts pipes under the door don't line up to the others... suggestions?

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:25 am

I dont own Voyager Ironhide, but there was a really cool guy outside the Westin one day at BotCon that was kind enough to let me try his out. I have to say, I got stuck right at the end.

But that is NOTHING compared to the ridiculousness that is MP Megatron. I got him into gun mode ONCE. Once he made it back to robot mode, he has stayed there.

News Credits: 3 · by **Samsonator** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:22 am

MP Megs is definitely top on my list of transformations that are more time and effort than they're worth... but I wouldn't necessarily classify him as difficult... just time consuming as there's a lot that must be done.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:19 pm

MP Megatron is difficult if you don't wanna break him and ifyer being careful. I honestly forget parts of his transformation tho.

Nemesis Priem / Big Convoy is tough too. Getting all those parts to line up just right ... and some always fall off...

by **areaseven** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:17 pm

The G1 Duocons were among the most difficult to transform.

News Credits: 1 · by **Repair Bay** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:00 pm

I just got Movie Payload and he is a HUGE pain in the ass...still love him though XD

News Credits: 1 · by **The Chaos Bringer** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:18 pm

My vote goes for Twin Twist or Top Spin. After all, the official transformation has them land on their feet and not on their face so technically transforming them properly is impossible.

News Credits: 6 · by **bran10** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:54 pm

so most people agree with mp megs or alt mustangmold?

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:01 pm

I guess so...even though I do not have MP Megatron, I am leaning more towards him.

News Credits: 21 · by **Skice** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:15 am

For me it would have to be RID Ultra Magnus his legs always gave me trouble until the day he broke. I do not miss him at all.

News Credits: 3 · by **FracturedKoi** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:34 am

Autobot420 wrote:For me it would have to be RID Ultra Magnus his legs always gave me trouble until the day he broke. I do not miss him at all.

I've always been more frustrated getting everything to line up properly with Omega Prime, personally.

As far as difficulty goes, The Alt-Mustangs are the toughest in my book. Megatron isn't that bad...he's just too freakin fragile!

by **TheStarScreamer** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:23 am

I have to say that from the 15 or so that my son and I currently own, that Leader Prime is the hardest by far, with an honorable mention going to Bumblebee '08.

Ironhide was tough at first, but I went from Truck to bot and back to truck again without directions 10 minutes after buying him. It wasn't easy. It was complicated, but not difficult.

Granted, I have never transformed some of mine. Bonecrusher, Starscream, and Blackout have never been Transformed back into vehicle mode. Hell, Blackout was from the TRU pack, so he has never even BEEN in vehicle form.