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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Sylus » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:28 am

I've got a plan, let's all drop this dead subject and DANCE!!!

I swear Hasbro won't see it coming, who's all with me?!?!



TONIGHT WE DANCE IN HELL!!!
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Tekka » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:35 am

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Glitcher wrote:You wouldn't by any chance happen to own the Botcon Seekers, would you? It's funny, everyone who owns those Seekers is adamant that they should remain exclusives. Those who don't own them are crying for a Takara release. Do I detect a certain lack of objectivity? :roll:
I own them, and I paid a lot for them being outside the US. But I don't care if they remain exclusives or not. It's only money, I can always get more. Plus the fact that $200 is not a lot of money.

I can't believe we have yet another topic on this though. I can't remember if this is the fifth or sixth one I've seen or possibly even more. I will forgo my usual bit about SCF Skywarp as I've said it enough times already.

Anyhoo, be happy everyone. They're always out there if you want them, just save your pennies.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Sarri » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:41 am

shortround wrote:Why is it that everyone has to have all six original seekers

I couldn't care less for the coneheads, I'm just interested in the last one of the important trio. Which I think would be a nice compromise, don't give us the whole Botcon set, just give us the important ones.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Nekoman » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:45 am

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Tekka wrote:Anyhoo, be happy everyone. They're always out there if you want them, just save your pennies.

Right, they’re out there and anyone who wants them enough will save they’re money, (saving, who ever thought of that? Nekoman, that’s who!) its not like they aren’t out there. I for one don’t feel I want them enough to pay the cash, so I wont buy them.

And like I’ve said before, all I really want is more G1 characters, Universe is that.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Powermaster Jazz » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:53 am

You do know you're not supposed to open exclusive sets, don't you? If you're gonna open them don't be too concerned about their value.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby JTKranix » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:58 am

Powermaster Jazz wrote:You do know you're not supposed to open exclusive sets, don't you? If you're gonna open them don't be too concerned about their value.


Considering the Botcon sets are not sealed, I don't think it matters.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 am

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Powermaster Jazz wrote:You do know you're not supposed to open exclusive sets, don't you? If you're gonna open them don't be too concerned about their value.


BotCon sets aren't sealed to begin with.

It's a completely moot point.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Dead Metal » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:04 am

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Last time I used that was on a thread that was exactly the same!

I'm sick and tired of this subject, everytime I get over those damn seekers someone has to go and post a topic about these, good god.

Be fu**ing glad that you got classics in the first place, the line wasn't even released in my country.
And I still managed to grab a few, YEs it would be awesome if they were on general sale, but that will not happen, Takara may release there own versions, but I don't think so since they haven't even brought out wave one of the classics line jet, just a few.
Just let it go.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Sid Burn » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:38 am

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Nekoman wrote:I heard it all and I think that if it is Botcon exclusive it should STAY a Botcon exclusive forever.


QFT! This is all that needs to be said. Botcon EXCLUSIVES should live up to their name and forever be rare and sought after sets.

If Hasbro or Takara, suddenly released a 'botcon' line at retail with all the exclusives offered up at face value, I wouldnt care that I had my sets years ago. I would be annoyed that they are commonplace.

The rarity of the botcon exclusives is what makes them special, elitist or not, save a little money and you too can have botcon seekers.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby First Gen » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:50 am

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LOL! I find it absolutely hilarious that someone actually had the gall to try and argue with Counterpunch. I've seen better outcomes for the arguer during the rapes scenes in Oz. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Dead Metal » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:55 am

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First Gen wrote:LOL! I find it absolutely hilarious that someone actually had the gall to try and argue with Counterpunch. I've seen better outcomes for the arguer during the rapes scenes in Oz. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I tried it once, that was I was still a n00b around here, I have learned never to do it again!
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Agent 007 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:10 pm

Idk why people get so upset about these things. People they're just pieces of plastic! They're ok molds with a few changes added to them. It's not gonna kill you if you don't have them. I know it's lame that they were exclusives but what do u want them to do? Release a lame mold that won't sell? No they want something that sells. Imao i would rather have new molds then have half a wave of universe be nothing but stupid seekers. Get over it! And if you want them so badly then as counter punch said u pay to play pony up the dough and buy them yourself. Just because people have nicer things dosen't mean you should hate them (cough, Sylus, cough) Just be happy for them. Just work hard and save the cash don't bitch and complain and make thousands of what if forums! Just get over it!
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby JTKranix » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:24 pm

Mr.Bond007 wrote:Idk why people get so upset about these things. People they're just pieces of plastic! They're ok molds with a few changes added to them. It's not gonna kill you if you don't have them. I know it's lame that they were exclusives but what do u want them to do? Release a lame mold that won't sell? No they want something that sells. Imao i would rather have new molds then have half a wave of universe be nothing but stupid seekers. Get over it! And if you want them so badly then as counter punch said u pay to play pony up the dough and buy them yourself. Just because people have nicer things dosen't mean you should hate them (cough, Sylus, cough) Just be happy for them. Just work hard and save the cash don't bitch and complain and make thousands of what if forums! Just get over it!


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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Sylus » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:27 pm

I don't hate any asshole just cuz he has something I don't, deal with it. I hate people who sit there and lord over everyone else that they bought the botcon exclusives and that they want them to stay valuable because they want to sale them on eBay for 5 times what they paid. I can afford them all, I may not have a job but that doesn't mean I don't work my ass off for cash. Last check I got was $2,500 and how much of that do I have left? $2,500 that's how much, I'm just not willing to spend it on 3 toys that are worth $10 and not a cent more just because some bastard wants to get them all greasy with his stubby fingers and then sale them on eBay for 800% mark up on each one. I prefer to manage my money not blow it all on toys, If I sale so much stuff on eBay that I make enough for a botcon set then I'll buy the botcon set, but I'm not gonna spend my money I EARNED on toys. Not when my mom is suffering from diabetes, lack of medication and lack of food because all her money is going towards credit card debt that my dad accumulated on some whore he met in prison. Even if I had the botcon set when it FIRST came out I'd still be pissed that it wasn't something that was readily available to EVERYONE at a fair price, things like that upset the hell out of me. It pisses me off that I can pick up a transformer at wal mart for about 20 bucks but my friends in England pay 20 quid for it which almost 40 USD.
I believe the prices should be of what the toy is worth, not what the person can afford and to me 3 hunks of plastic are not worth almost $1,000. You have no idea how many people have not even heard of botcon and are still waiting for Classics Thundercracker to be released and when I say "He was a botcon exclusive so they won't ever sale him at retail" they just scoff in disbelief cuz of how stupid it sounds and stupid it is and we all know it.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby DISCHARGE » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:28 pm

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I think the only way to settle this dispute is with a fist fight.
Say, Counterpunch vs. Kimbo Slice.
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If Counterpunch wins no reference to any remakes of Botcon Seekers ever.

If Kimbo wins, Takara can do what ever the Hell they want to without
Seeker holders complaining about losing the dramatic increased
value of their Botcon toys.

I think it's only fair.

*note: This is only sarcasm. If you can't take it with a grain of salt, you have no sense of humor.*
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby Sylus » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:36 pm

I think we need a Dance Off, like a Dancer Dome. Two men enter, one man moonwalks out. We could even sale tickets, oh what fun this will be. Now everybody pick the person who will dance for your team.

Gary Coleman I choose you!
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby First Gen » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:38 pm

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Sylus wrote:I don't hate any asshole just cuz he has something I don't, deal with it. I hate people who sit there and lord over everyone else that they bought the botcon exclusives and that they want them to stay valuable because they want to sale them on eBay for 5 times what they paid. I can afford them all, I may not have a job but that doesn't mean I don't work my ass off for cash. Last check I got was $2,500 and how much of that do I have left? $2,500 that's how much, I'm just not willing to spend it on 3 toys that are worth $10 and not a cent more just because some bastard wants to get them all greasy with his stubby fingers and then sale them on eBay for 800% mark up on each one. I prefer to manage my money not blow it all on toys, If I sale so much stuff on eBay that I make enough for a botcon set then I'll buy the botcon set, but I'm not gonna spend my money I EARNED on toys. Not when my mom is suffering from diabetes, lack of medication and lack of food because all her money is going towards credit card debt that my dad accumulated on some whore he met in prison. Even if I had the botcon set when it FIRST came out I'd still be pissed that it wasn't something that was readily available to EVERYONE at a fair price, things like that upset the hell out of me. It pisses me off that I can pick up a transformer at wal mart for about 20 bucks but my friends in England pay 20 quid for it which almost 40 USD.
I believe the prices should be of what the toy is worth, not what the person can afford and to me 3 hunks of plastic are not worth almost $1,000. You have no idea how many people have not even heard of botcon and are still waiting for Classics Thundercracker to be released and when I say "He was a botcon exclusive so they won't ever sale him at retail" they just scoff in disbelief cuz of how stupid it sounds and stupid it is and we all know it.



Sylus, your a cool dude and all, but you just don't seem to well versed in the actual collecting portion of Transformers.
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Re: Why argue over Henkei Botcon Seekers?

Postby MegatronBomb » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:43 pm

Well, if Takara releases the BotCon seekers, I will buy them. If they dont, I will never own them. So I hope they do and since I dont own the BotCon set, I dont care if they stay exclusives or not. If I did, I probably would care if takara released them. Humans tend to act and react in their own best interest.
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