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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And for the love of Primus, enough with the canon arm already!

THAT is the reason I wish I had bought myself a 2007 Deluxe class Camaro Concept Bumblebee instead of Legends class Barricade. It was one of the few to have TWO hands and a weapon to be fitted into it. And I didn't have the feeling for ROTF Deluxe Cannon Bumblebee.

Although on Battle-Ops Bumblebee I don't like the positioning of the Shoulder cannons. They're WAY too close to his head. PS: I don't own one, I see it on pics.

Now off-topic: Does anyone think that DOTM Deluxe MECHTECH Bumblebee is worth buying? 'Cause I don't want to settle with only two Movieverse ROTF Legends Bumblebees when there's a S***LOAD of toys made of him

galvatron1979 wrote:How many of you agree with me that bumblebee leader is among the worst leader figure release under the movieverse toylines. Seriously, the figure is such a big letdown that eventhough I got him at discount he is not worth the investment. Among the things I have to complain about him are:

i) Horrendous robot mode look , with his hunchback of cyber-tron appearance.
ii) Silly backpack that makes balancing and posing him awfully difficult and not to mention makes him looks like a cheap kiddie gimicky toy.
iii) For that heavy price Hasbro cannot even give us two bumblebee hands WTH!!!!!!
Only the alternate mode is fairly acceptable though hardly perfect!!! How many of you agree?

Their is only one movie leader sized verse Bumblebee & that was released in the DOTM toy line this year in 2011.

The other 2 or 3 huge bumblebee toys were not leader size. the first 2007 Movie bumblebee was labeled as ULTIMATE size. the ultimate size bumblebee got a new head & re-sculpted parts & was released in the ROTF toy line as another ultimate bumblebee toy.

The HFTD 2010 Bumblebee sold for $59.99 & wasn't labeled a leader sized toy.

If I had to select a decent over sized movie verse bumblebee toy. it would be the HFTD toy.

I don't like the DOTM Leader sized bumblebee toy. because it's too over loaded with back pack weapons,shoulder canons,guns & so forth.

I Don't like the over sized Movie verse bumblebee toys. because I'm not a fan of over sized toys that are shown small in the media like movies/cartoon/comics.

I ALSO dis-like all the movie verse bumblebee toys. because for that price & the fact it's a liscensed car hasbro/takara have at least given buyer a full interior for the car mode. like bucket seats,steering wheel,shifter,dash board,etc...

I think that if there was an interior, then wouldn't it pay at transforming the figures?
I don't like figures who have seats on their arms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there where the interior is isn't there usually also a big portion of the Transformers body? The interior is the least I would worry about.

If you want a toy-car with interior then find yourself a detailed toy-car model. I've got a box-full of russian car models with pretty detailed interior and moving doors and hoods. Small on scale, but still...

Red 50 wrote:I think that if there was an interior, then wouldn't it pay at transforming the figures?
I don't like figures who have seats on their arms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there where the interior is isn't there usually also a big portion of the Transformers body? The interior is the least I would worry about.

If you want a toy-car with interior then find yourself a detailed toy-car model. I've got a box-full of russian car models with pretty detailed interior and moving doors and hoods. Small on scale, but still...

The alternatos/BT,Alternity & $29.99 Human allegiance figures anage to pull off decent TF toys with interior car seats. the seats don't get in the way nor are they in the wrong areas of the robot mode.

I'm confused by the last few posts...there already is a Bumblebee figure like that. Human Alliance Bumblebee. Granted, it's not pulled off quite as well as some Alternators, but what can ya do?

Red 50 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And for the love of Primus, enough with the canon arm already!

THAT is the reason I wish I had bought myself a 2007 Deluxe class Camaro Concept Bumblebee instead of Legends class Barricade. It was one of the few to have TWO hands and a weapon to be fitted into it. And I didn't have the feeling for ROTF Deluxe Cannon Bumblebee.

Although on Battle-Ops Bumblebee I don't like the positioning of the Shoulder cannons. They're WAY too close to his head. PS: I don't own one, I see it on pics.

Now off-topic: Does anyone think that DOTM Deluxe MECHTECH Bumblebee is worth buying? 'Cause I don't want to settle with only two Movieverse ROTF Legends Bumblebees when there's a S***LOAD of toys made of him

If there's one definite Bumblebee out there, it's going to be HFTD deluxe Battle Blade Bumblebee. All the gimmicks and features you'd want [convertible canon arm, battle axe, face shield], and and it's also the tallest deluxe class Bee and IMO the most movie accurate BB out there.

The 2007 BB might be a little hard to hunt down, but BB Bee should still be in stock in some places.

As for DOTM Bumblebee, he's not bad as a figure, but requires a LOT of repainting to look half-decent. The movie-accurate calves he inherited from the BB Bee mold is yellow plastic and unpainted, and his bright silver face also stands out too much from his dark gray limbs.

In short, if you don't plan on repainting him, then don't bother; IMO, he looks horrible with the calves unpainted. Makes his thighs look disproportionately short.

Never got any leader class toys for BB. Too much to pay for him. I just stuck with the 79 version, and then the updated 09 version, which I am now trying to sell as I have the Battle Blades version, which is the best one out of all the other figures at the moment. I MIGHT get the duluxe (or however the eff it's spelled) DOTM version, but not sure yet. Unless I missed it at retail already, if so then I guess the decision was made for me. Meh. Still, unless they come out with a DOTM Leader Megatron, then I won't be grabbing another Leader class figure for a while. Unless there's an awesome leader toy planned for Classics/Reveal The Shield/Generations.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
If there's one definite Bumblebee out there, it's going to be HFTD deluxe Battle Blade Bumblebee. All the gimmicks and features you'd want [convertible canon arm, battle axe, face shield], and and it's also the tallest deluxe class Bee and IMO the most movie accurate BB out there.

The 2007 BB might be a little hard to hunt down, but BB Bee should still be in stock in some places.

I just picked up BBBB about 2 weeks ago at a Ross for $7.99, so yes there is hope to still pick this figure up at retail and for a decent price.

I haven't opened that version yet, but I really liked the Battlefield BB that came with Soundwave in the NEST collection. The shoulder weapons were cool, and I was able to do a neat "Neo" pose, letting anyone in his way to come get some!

well back to the topic, i think ROTF Leader Megatron was the absolute worst. he was ugly, unposeable and simpler than a FAB. they even managed to mess up having a giant claw arm by having it just hang there with no elbow joiny or closing claw or anything. the voyager was a FAR superior toy to that hunk o junk.

with that said, despite bb being the most shelf cloggingly annoying figure in existence, his transformation is always a little bit more complex than most, and the most well engineered as far as toy purposes go, second only to prime himself. would i buy leader bb? no. but he is by far not the worst leader figure.

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:
I would like to add more reasons to dislike Leader Bee:
- legs proportions are WAY off
- details are all wrong. What's all that stuff on his chest/stomach?

Maybe its just his new cgi model. Until we see DOTM, nobody can really precise how movie accurate the new Leader BB.

No. We've seen plenty of clips of him. Apart from cosmetic changes to the car he looks the same as ever.

Leader Ironhide, Jetfire and 2007 Megatron are all way worse than BB. The only problem I see with leader BB is his small noggin and lack of neck, the back doesn't bother me the least bit since it's completely optional.
I'm not even a BB fan, but out of the 4 different movie BBs I have I rank them this way:
1 - Battle Opps BB (Costco version)
2 - DOTM Leader BB
3 - HFTD BBBB
4 - HA BB

leader ironhide is amazing. tall but amazing.dotm bumblebee is one of the only leaders i don't have(2007 prime)i don't get who is buying this guy that reads this site or is a collector i mean really you guys don't aready have at least 5 bumblebees battle ops is 30 bucks at walmart in clearance isle and i got ha bb for 8 bucks at target so lemme guess the same people who are gripping about paying for rts and generations toys are buying 30 40 and 50 dollar bumblebees to go with there $100 ultimate bb's mabe not you in particular but how many bumblebees do you people need or want? i haven't seen a movie bumblebee yet that makes me say i gotta have that. mabe if the pissing on simmons one ever comes out i'll get that one.but i think leaders should be the guys with big guns.thieyshoulda made leader shockwave or soundwave even blackout would be cool. but this guy i promise will be on clearence for 20-25 bucks if i ever buy him he out numbers sentinel prime 2-1n at least and i've only seen 1 ironhide(who is amazing)and i bought him today bb is the most over saturated character. it baffles me that people pay 40+ for a nother one

indeed

Personally,IMHO,all the huge Movie verse Bumblebee toys are the worst of the big sized movie verse toys from all 3 movie toy lines. BECAUSE THEIR OVER SIZED TOY VERSIONS BASED OFF THE SMALL MEDIA MOVIE/COMIC SIZE SCALE APPEARANCE OF MOVIE BUMBLEBEE.

The majority of the TF internet fandom hates buying TF toys that are majorly out of size scale with their media movie/cartoon/comic size scale designs.

Since technically despite prices all the Movie verse bumblebee toys are around leader sized height+bulk. this qualifies the Ultimate,supreme & leader priced bumblebee toys as all leader sized.