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by **Raymond101** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:08 pm

By that not only do I mean the inclusion of Thundercracker and Skywarp in the toyline, but also as actually having been in the movie. So that means you would have to replace them in place of, say, Brawl and Scorponok.

Unless there were copyright issues, the Seekers would be pretty cool having their own individual toys (not just repaints) and a presence in the movie.

And instead of Leader Brawl you could have Leader starscream, with Voyager Skywarp and Thundercracker - they aren't repaints of each other, but have scanned different aircraft.

by **publicvisage** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:24 pm

While my initial reaction is YES OMFG YES!!!!!!!!!111!!! with the movie as it was, I think it was neat seeing the heroes deal with the different abilities of the Decepticons.

I think having a bunch of Transformers that turned into the same thing(very if their different models of planes, they're still planes) would have gotten a little old.

But then again maybe they would have completely changed the movie, and made it even more awesome.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:27 pm

Nope.

Whats the point of having "clones" if they do not have time to have their different characters displayed?

Even if they had have scanned different aircraft, Starscream barely got any screen time to show off his dominance of the skies, with ol' Skywarp and Thundercracker in the movie he would have had to have shared his big battle scene.

There were already too many Decepticons, considering that some were killed off screen, and others were killed without doing anything but transform once. Having two more jets would have been far too much overkill.

Starscream being the only Decepticon survivor had alot to do with his alt mode, having 2 more Decepticons survive would have been a tad boring.

Having them return in Tf2, alongside some Autobot fliers could be nice, but Hasbro will have to learn to design better airplane based figures.

by **Raymond101** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:30 pm

yeah but I meant that what if two Decepticons were taken out, eg. Scorponok and Brawl, and replaced with the Seekers.

Then they would get more opportunities to show off their dominance of the skies.

by **Decatron** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:31 pm

IMO, no. It's appropriate for Starscream and have him stand out amongst the other Transformers in the movie.

by **skyline** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:44 pm

I realy love Movie Starscream in Jet mode ( Raptor ) and yes it would be cool to see all the seekers in the movie but in robot mode he's sooooooo deym fugly!!! :-x

he's like a walking pizza or something! :shock:

come on, having an inverted triangle for a chest a very broad shoulder w/ bone like arms and very skinny legs is a big turn off!

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:50 pm

Raymond101 wrote:yeah but I meant that what if two Decepticons were taken out, eg. Scorponok and Brawl, and replaced with the Seekers.

Then they would get more opportunities to show off their dominance of the skies.

It would have significantly changed the movies story to replace any other Decepticons (bar Bonecrusher) with a seeker.

With no Autobot fliers, it also would have been quite lack-lustre. Starscream showed how dominant he was in the sky, and all the bots and cons showed how rarely they actually hit one another with their weaponry.

To have a decent battle scene, the jets would have had to have fought somewhat like Starscream did for all of 3 seconds, fly in transform, shoot, transform fly out.

by **publicvisage** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:14 pm

i_amtrunks wrote:
Raymond101 wrote:yeah but I meant that what if two Decepticons were taken out, eg. Scorponok and Brawl, and replaced with the Seekers.

Then they would get more opportunities to show off their dominance of the skies.

It would have significantly changed the movies story to replace any other Decepticons (bar Bonecrusher) with a seeker.

With no Autobot fliers, it also would have been quite lack-lustre. Starscream showed how dominant he was in the sky, and all the bots and cons showed how rarely they actually hit one another with their weaponry.

To have a decent battle scene, the jets would have had to have fought somewhat like Starscream did for all of 3 seconds, fly in transform, shoot, transform fly out.

Let's not forget Megatron though. In the movie, he's also a flyer, and does quite a bit of fighting(not that we got to see a lot of it...thanks Bay XD).

Like I said above, having the Seekers featured would have completely changed the course of the movie. And not necessarily in a bad way. I think if they had done it, they probably could have fixed it so that it wasn't boring. But on the other hand, I think the non-TF fan would get frustrated and have trouble keeping straight all the characters who turned in to planes(then compound this with Autobot flyers, and you have an explosive migraine :BOOM:

messy, messy, messy).

All in all, I WOULD like them to release a version of all the Seekers in the toyline, but not as repaints.

by **Auto Bot** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:02 am

I would prefer a different jet mode for Thundercracker and Skywarp. Meaning all 3 Seekers have different jet modes. Could be similar models, such as F-35. But should not be exactly the same. And the transformation and robot modes should be radically different.

And Yes, Starscream should be in Leader Class. Maybe even bigger!