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Re: Aliens

Postby Dr. Caelus » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:58 pm

Evil_the_Nub wrote:IMO the biggest problem with the AVP movies is they have to have humans in it. They would be great on another planet where the aliens and predators are hunting each other. Maybe in a Documentary style with a narator. Ok cue March of the Predator jokes: now.


I just got this mental flash of a Steve-Irwin-like Predator wrestling Aliens.

"Aw Crikey, this one's a beaut, look at her teeth."

*Alien thrashes wildly in Predator's headlock*

"Ah, I better watch meself, she's one cranky girl, and if I'm not careful, she'll stab me with that tail of hers."

*Tail swings at Predator, who grabs and holds it.*

"Naughty girl! Now see, that's what I was talking about. The xenomorph primarily uses this razor sharp, powerfully muscled and surprisingly flexible tail for hunting its prey, but it wouldn't think twice about skewering the likes of me with it. But that's not the only thing you need to watch out for. These graceful but deadly queens of space, are also equipped with a nasty little surprise inside their mouth."

*Predator pries open Alien's hissing jaws.*

"Inside her jaws is a second pair with teeth just as razah' sharp. The secondary jaws are attached to a foot long proboscis that's launched from her mouth by pneumatic force. It's truly amazing how much damage they can do with such a seemingly useless adaptation. Why, I'd wager as many hunters have been killed by these nasty little teeth as by that long harpoon-like tail."

doubledealer25 wrote:i have never seen the that movie is it any good? :-?


Aliens? Yes. Probably not as good as Alien (the first one), but it arguably has better dialogue and action.

It's also arguably the best Starship Troopers movie ever made. :lol:
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Re: Aliens

Postby Moonlight » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:37 pm

Caelus wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:IMO the biggest problem with the AVP movies is they have to have humans in it. They would be great on another planet where the aliens and predators are hunting each other. Maybe in a Documentary style with a narator. Ok cue March of the Predator jokes: now.


I just got this mental flash of a Steve-Irwin-like Predator wrestling Aliens.

"Aw Crikey, this one's a beaut, look at her teeth."

*Alien thrashes wildly in Predator's headlock*

"Ah, I better watch meself, she's one cranky girl, and if I'm not careful, she'll stab me with that tail of hers."

*Tail swings at Predator, who grabs and holds it.*

"Naughty girl! Now see, that's what I was talking about. The xenomorph primarily uses this razor sharp, powerfully muscled and surprisingly flexible tail for hunting its prey, but it wouldn't think twice about skewering the likes of me with it. But that's not the only thing you need to watch out for. These graceful but deadly queens of space, are also equipped with a nasty little surprise inside their mouth."

*Predator pries open Alien's hissing jaws.*

"Inside her jaws is a second pair with teeth just as razah' sharp. The secondary jaws are attached to a foot long proboscis that's launched from her mouth by pneumatic force. It's truly amazing how much damage they can do with such a seemingly useless adaptation. Why, I'd wager as many hunters have been killed by these nasty little teeth as by that long harpoon-like tail."

:lol: I could actually picture that. I do not think we would hear aww you naughty girl if he got too clost to the teeth though :grin:


doubledealer25 wrote:i have never seen the that movie is it any good? :-?


Aliens? Yes. Probably not as good as Alien (the first one), but it arguably has better dialogue and action.

It's also arguably the best Starship Troopers movie ever made. :lol:[/quote]

I liked aliens better for the action. Alien was good for a scary movie but not near the action.
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Re: Aliens

Postby Venomous Prime » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:55 pm

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People bash Saw saying its a splatter fest. I still beg to differ. Those movies(at least the first three, I have not seen IV yet), are mind ****. They made me cringe, feel fear, and honestly, be glad that I wasn't in the movie.

For the first time in years a horror movie left me feeling satisfied. Unlike **** movies like Scream, I Know What You Did Last Summer, The Grudge and the Ring.

Horror is fighting its way back up from the crap pile that Scream and the crappy Japanese horror movies dug it into.

Movies like Feast, The Reeker, Behind The Mask:The Rise of Leslie Vernon, Hatchet, and Rob Zombie's Halloween should be considered achievements in Horror, but yet, they get roped into the crapfest of Prom Night and The Strangers.

If you haven't seen those movies, rent or buy them ASAP.

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Re: Aliens

Postby Dr. Caelus » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:27 pm

Original Sin wrote:They made me cringe, feel fear, and honestly, be glad that I wasn't in the movie.


Gosford Park, Secret Lives of Dentists, Lost in Translation, and As Good as It Gets all managed two out of those three for me.
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Re: Aliens

Postby Meister cries inside » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:49 pm

Caelus wrote:
Original Sin wrote:They made me cringe, feel fear, and honestly, be glad that I wasn't in the movie.


Gosford Park, Secret Lives of Dentists, Lost in Translation, and As Good as It Gets all managed two out of those three for me.


Secret live of Dentists? Is that like the Lives of others with tooth doctors?
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Re: Aliens

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:04 am

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I saw half of the first Saw and hated it. They claimed the ending was one of the most surprising twists ever and he turns out to be the guy playing dead on the floor????? That's not the shocking twist they claimed, thats pulling something out of your ass. That would be like at the end of lord of the rings Frodos turns ot to be robot.
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Re: Aliens

Postby Seeker013 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:41 am

JaAm wrote:Thank you for reminding me to see that series. I finished watching Predators 1+2, (2 is better, since the predator gets straight into action rather than the slow buildup of the first) and now i want to see the alien trilogy. (I'm gonna take my friend's advice and pretend resurection didn't happen.)



Yeah, and the Predator uses Arnold's line from the first movie...
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Re: Aliens

Postby Senor Hugo » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:47 am

the horror genre is dead. As much as I like Rob Zombie, I can't really consider his films horror movies, they attempt to be something that horror was.

It's the same with movies like Cloverfield, they make an attempt to get into a genre, but somewhere along the way fail miserably. Whether it be the script, how it's shot, effects used etc.

Rob Zombie's films never had a problem with script, they were pretty decent. But how the movies followed the same dark and grainy filter that every horror movie has to use since Saw came out, makes them fail.

Of course SAW is just another whole smorgasbord of horror fail. It's just Manhunt without any interactivity.

And yet people complain about their kids playing manhunt, when most of those people probably took their kids to see SAW.

The horror genre is dead.

It died right as Jason X came out, which is, if you really look at the movie, the last true horror movie(Jeepers Creepers one of the last horror movies as well, came out just before Jason X).

Corny, decent jump points, basic plot, unstoppable killing machine, boobs.

It was a movie that made fun of itself, and rightfully so.

Most "horror" movies today consist of a few things used ridiculously too many times.

- Pale Dead Asians
- Grainy film filter
- Over use of the color brown
- Making the killer 'human'
- Retardedly Realistic

Lets face it, if any of us had a ghost of a dead Asian haunting us, would that be scary? Hell no.

You know what it would be? Fun. Why? Asians love practical jokes, look at 90% of their tv shows. You talk your Asian ghost into playing a bunch of jokes on your friends and family, you know how awesome that would be? It would be awesome, to the max.

Grainy film filter - enough with it, nobody cares that the film looked like it was dragged through gravel.

Brown - Real does not equal brown

Making the killer human - Why the hell would anyone want to know that the killer feels and gets sad like the rest of us? Dude kills people in a hockey mask, Kirk Mask, or kills people with his peg-leg. He should seem as inhuman as possible, not that he's dying of cancer and he just wants to make people enjoy their lives by strapping bear-traps to their face and genitals and give them a choice, lose their balls and live, or die then lose your balls.

THe only other "horror" movies are remakes, and lets face it, since when has there ever been a remake of a movie that has been better than the original?


As for AVP:R, it was a good movie, a lot better than the first one, and a lot more accurate to the comics(which is where we get the Predator/Alien hybrid, well the comics and the video games, though lord knows why they gave it a retarded name like Predalien)

I did enjoy how they made the aliens seem like ruthless killing machines, but then made the predalien smarter than your average alien, with his stealing of picanick baskets, and the whole killing children part. The predalien making use of the pregnant lady was a bit much, but it worked, showed how the alien used it's limited resources.

Also, they never did show the babies get eaten, but if an alien invasion like that did happen, the baby-buffet would be used to feed the newly born alien troops.

Now, while I don't like realism in my horror movies, I take a different stance when it comes to Sci-fi.

If a horror movie is set on earth, normal every-day earth, with normal-everyday people, why should the killer be your normal-everyday person as well? This is why Jeepers Creepers worked, realistic up until the alien steals your body parts and opens a can of whoop-ass on a police precinct.

But with sci-fi, it's already set in an abnormal time, abnormal circumstances, so bringing as much realism to it as one can allow helps the movie attain that status of "awesome movie"
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Re: Aliens

Postby Wheeljack35 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:43 pm

My favorite scene from Aliens is when Riply comes out on the loader to take on the Queen Alien
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Re: Aliens

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:47 pm

I just thought of another worthy modern horror movie - Pitch Black.

I should watch that when I finish grading.
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Re: Aliens

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:11 am

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Senor Hugo wrote:- Pale Dead Asians

Sounds familiar.....
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Re: Aliens

Postby Senor Hugo » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:06 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Senor Hugo wrote:- Pale Dead Asians

Sounds familiar.....


Yeah, the artist and I have the same feelings, though I did use his term.

The funny thing is, Parker, the guy in the strip happens to be a radio jockey here in FW, funny bastard.
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Re: Aliens

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:22 am

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Senor Hugo wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Senor Hugo wrote:- Pale Dead Asians

Sounds familiar.....


Yeah, the artist and I have the same feelings, though I did use his term.

The funny thing is, Parker, the guy in the strip happens to be a radio jockey here in FW, funny bastard.

Lol he's a real person?
A shame the main comic is no more. :-(
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