monstergrotusque wrote:I personally dislike re-issues and have no desire to see more...
...And having more re-issues roaming around can be as much a hassle as KO's. At least KO's are generally easy to spot. Plus it takes away from the uniqueness of the originals. For me they cheapen and tarnish the magic of G1 figures.
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Rodimus the Prime wrote:And by "hardcore", I'm meaning those who favour the first era most, and do not jibe with the film-verse, it's story, it's aesthetic and so-forth. (Please, no one take my usage of 'hardcore' as an attack on your commitment to the franchise. My usage of it here is only with regards to where one's focus lies as a TF fan)
As Transformers fans, what would you want more than anything right now?
MightyMagnus78 wrote:monstergrotusque wrote:I personally dislike re-issues and have no desire to see more...
...And having more re-issues roaming around can be as much a hassle as KO's. At least KO's are generally easy to spot. Plus it takes away from the uniqueness of the originals. For me they cheapen and tarnish the magic of G1 figures.
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I can totally understand where you're coming from, however these reisses give me an opportunity to relive my childhood. I like the fact that they are original Hasbro/Takara toys, but they are still brand new, never opened, never played with, and never abused. I like the fact that I'm the first person to take it out, to apply the stickers and transform it for the first time.
I think they are special in their own way. They are only ever produced in limited numbers, so I really dont think they cheapen the origonals that much.
Seibertron wrote:Rodimus the Prime wrote:And by "hardcore", I'm meaning those who favour the first era most, and do not jibe with the film-verse, it's story, it's aesthetic and so-forth. (Please, no one take my usage of 'hardcore' as an attack on your commitment to the franchise. My usage of it here is only with regards to where one's focus lies as a TF fan)
As Transformers fans, what would you want more than anything right now?
Why does me liking the film-verse lessen my opinion of G1 Transformers for the sake of this conversation? Why would you want to exclude people who have been open minded and like other Transformers series?
Personally, I'd like to see Classics Universe style Gestalt figures done right. Not half assed Universe trilogy combiners or Energon Optimus Prime wannabee Power Core Combiners ... 4 or 5 Scout class figures that combine with either a deluxe or a Voyager to become a larger Gestalt. I'd also like to see the rest of the Gestalts reissued at long last. I'd also like to see Pretenders given the Classics treatment with the actual Pretender gimmick, though I think this last request would be just to make me happen -- I don't think it'd go over well with the fans.
Seibertron wrote:MightyMagnus78 wrote:monstergrotusque wrote:I personally dislike re-issues and have no desire to see more...
...And having more re-issues roaming around can be as much a hassle as KO's. At least KO's are generally easy to spot. Plus it takes away from the uniqueness of the originals. For me they cheapen and tarnish the magic of G1 figures.
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I can totally understand where you're coming from, however these reisses give me an opportunity to relive my childhood. I like the fact that they are original Hasbro/Takara toys, but they are still brand new, never opened, never played with, and never abused. I like the fact that I'm the first person to take it out, to apply the stickers and transform it for the first time.
I think they are special in their own way. They are only ever produced in limited numbers, so I really dont think they cheapen the origonals that much.
I'm all for the reissues. I think 10 years ago I felt the same way as monstergrotusque but that wore off quickly after caving in and enjoying them like MightyMagnus78. I was thrilled to have a brand new never before used Ultra Magnus. I was especially thrilled at getting Megatron in 100% mint condition with the ability to actually shoot bullets. In many cases, I've actually gotten rid of my original figures in favor of the reissues because of the condition of the figures. It also doesn't hurt that in several cases, the reissues were actually better than what we had originally (meaning that there were improvements made to the reissue over the original). Take Star Convoy for example ... they didn't go the cheap route with this one, they gave us the version of him that had only previously been seen as a prototype including gold chrome instead of yellow paint, silver painted legs instead of plain white plastic and tampoed "stickers" on Micromaster Hot Rodimus instead of actual stickers. Having the missile launchers restored was a treat as well since they were removed for the US versions. Fun little additions like Transformers Collection #9 Starscream that came with a mini-Megatron gun with special Starscream and Optimus Prime fists to hold him was an awesome treat. Or how about the reissues with the energy weapon accessories for Optimus and Megatron? Or the opportunity to get super expensive Japanese exclusives like Stepper (Ricochet), Twincast, and Soundblaster?
Seibertron wrote:Rodimus the Prime wrote:And by "hardcore", I'm meaning those who favour the first era most, and do not jibe with the film-verse, it's story, it's aesthetic and so-forth. (Please, no one take my usage of 'hardcore' as an attack on your commitment to the franchise. My usage of it here is only with regards to where one's focus lies as a TF fan)
As Transformers fans, what would you want more than anything right now?
Why does me liking the film-verse lessen my opinion of G1 Transformers for the sake of this conversation?
Seibertron wrote:Why would you want to exclude people who have been open minded and like other Transformers series?
Rodimus the Prime wrote:Where in my post did you see or get the idea that I said liking the film-verse made one less of a fan of G1? Did you not read what I had said in the bracketed part of my post?
And by "hardcore", I'm meaning those who favour the first era most, and do not jibe with the film-verse, it's story, it's aesthetic and so-forth. (Please, no one take my usage of 'hardcore' as an attack on your commitment to the franchise. My usage of it here is only with regards to where one's focus lies as a TF fan)
Rodimus the Prime wrote:Lastly, why should I embrace an artistic work that offends my sensibilities? How is that being closed-minded?
monstergrotusque wrote:Having proper Gestalts is the next best idea for me next to a killer cartoon/movie.
I am all about the toys right now aswell and would die to have deluxe figures combine PROPERLY and not like what we've been getting for years now.
Toys will always be there though. The fiction/media isn't.
Maybe they could even do some of the Japanese cartoons and dub them into english. It would be easy too because not too many of the Sunbow cast are in the Headmasters show for example and voice continuity wouldn't be a big issue.
SO in short....i'd still like a cartoon/movie.
Seibertron wrote:I apologize if I somehow misinterpreted your comment above. It still reads to me like you don't want people who like the movie universe and G1 to participate in this conversation.
Rodimus the Prime wrote:And by "hardcore", I'm meaning those who favour the first era most, and do not jibe with the film-verse, it's story, it's aesthetic and so-forth. (Please, no one take my usage of 'hardcore' as an attack on your commitment to the franchise. My usage of it here is only with regards to where one's focus lies as a TF fan)
As Transformers fans, what would you want more than anything right now?
MightyMagnus78 wrote:More G1 reissues, maybe some of the rarer pieces like Reflector or Swoop, which were never released in the U.K for example.
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