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by **Raymond101** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:01 pm

Would you not buy Jazz solely because of his arms? Or is he worth it anyway - or perhaps even a decent toy?

by **autobot commander** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:02 pm

i like him

by **publicvisage** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:03 pm

I like him. He's not super good, nor is he particularly movie accurate, but I think that he's a decent figure.

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:08 pm

YES, along with the rest of him!

by **Renovating** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:14 pm

I have one, the arms are kinda of funky, but whats up with his hands? Are they suppose to be that small?

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:20 pm

His forearms do, in fact, suck. His claws are tiny like the Penguin's from Batman Returns.

With a little kitbashing (Doc Ock's claws, a couple pieces of sprue) he looks much better.

by **Smokescreen85** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:21 pm

His arms aren't that bad. If you position them right, they look pretty decent. He's not the best movie toy, but he's also not the worst either. I have the regular silver version and I'll be picking up the G1 repaint as well.

by **valanx** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:22 pm

I quite like him myself :grin:

by **Sonray** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:23 pm

Hes decent. Sure he aint no 08 Bumblebee but he's still pretty good.

by **AutobotServo** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:24 pm

I think he's great! Give him a good pose with his neat sword thing and he's pretty darn cool, IMHO.

News Credits: 1 · by **softimus_prime** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:25 pm

maybe at first but after staring at him like a few day you'll appreciate him

by **Unicron Singularity** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:27 pm

the arms are alright, but you somehow get the feeling of being careful so you don't break the arms(even if it was hard) cause they look kinda frail.

he also has a sweet alt mode. quite faithful to the real thing, no exaggerated designs or anything.

by **gumboluvu** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:27 pm

I actually like his hands. If you look closely at the detail, you can see how "robotic" they are.

by **juan_anting2x** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:28 pm

like it!my very first tf toy :grin:

ive asked my little brother who would he prefer to have,jazz or bb 77 he picked jazz..everytime i wake up he have jazz on his hands transforming him.. :grin:

by **Unicron Singularity** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:30 pm

juan_anting2x wrote:like it!my very first tf toy ive asked my little brother who would he prefer to have,jazz or bb 77 he picked jazz..everytime i wake up he have jazz on his hands transforming him..

ofc, 77 Bumblebee is crap tho. automorph thing on his chest on mine is broken, cant get it to hang on, and not fall out again.
77 BB also looks frail, as frail as a 90 year old woman in a wheelchair trying to snowboard.

by **DorkimusPrime** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:33 pm

classic camaro Bumblebee is good if you got one without the Automorph problem (which I did), but he still looks like a duck.

Like most of the people who posted in this thread, Jazz is growing on me...like a fungus. :lol:

by **juan_anting2x** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:34 pm

The Unicron Singularity wrote:
juan_anting2x wrote:like it!my very first tf toy ive asked my little brother who would he prefer to have,jazz or bb 77 he picked jazz..everytime i wake up he have jazz on his hands transforming him..

ofc, 77 Bumblebee is crap tho. automorph thing on his chest on mine is broken, cant get it to hang on, and not fall out again.
77 BB also looks frail, as frail as a 90 year old woman in a wheelchair trying to snowboard.

well,like they said,jazz is not the best and he is not the worst..jazz still looks cool een if he is standing beside bb08 that's on my opinion only..

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimus_Prowl** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:35 pm

IMO this little guy kicks major depticon booty. This was also the second movie fig I managed to pick up. It was definitely awsome for me. I learned just recently though what the holes on hi gun/sword thing are for. You can attach his "shield" and make it look movie accurate.

by **Unicron Singularity** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:27 pm

but still, Jazz rocks. the toy is good

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:26 pm

If I had have done what I normally do, and researched the little bugger before purchasing him, I would have skipped the Silver movie version, and gotten the G1 styled version.

The hands are an abomination in this day and age, there is no real excuse as to why Hasbro could not have given him some kind of flip out claw hands, more similar to the ones found on the real gear figures like Meantime.

The fact that most of his roof and spoiler add nothing to the transformation is also a shame. However he does have very sturdy legs...

by **Fred2012** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:44 pm

OMG i tried transforming him WITH the instructions and it took me literally 2 count em 2 hours to do JUST THE ARMS, other than that, awesome fig! i want a solstice for my firsst car, im already saving up, i got a nickel!

by **Autobot_Leader** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:00 pm

i wouldn't worry about his arms too much. he's a really cool toy.

by **Icetron** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:45 am

tyler1451 wrote:OMG i tried transforming him WITH the instructions and it took me literally 2 count em 2 hours to do JUST THE ARMS, other than that, awesome fig! i want a solstice for my firsst car, im already saving up, i got a nickel!

It took me a while to do that too, it's not only crappy looking but also sort of hard to get out.

The hands aside, I still think he looks pretty cool, but not very movie accurate. He was one of my first two movie toys too, I chose him because he looked cool.

(Before watching the movie)

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:32 am

Jazz's hands are ridiculously bad.

by **DavidBeoulve** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:48 am

I'm with CounterPunch on this one. Jazz Sucks, as I've stated in my blog.

Jazz Sucks:

Maria (my 10yo daughter) still likes him, but the 2007 movie edition of Jazz sucks: the arms are too hard to transform and are hinged with three individual pieces of double-hinged plastic, all of which are small parts, all of which are easy to break (which makes transforming him not fun), and to boot the final step to merging the hood back together (which is what splits apart into four pieces to rotate, move and become his arms) is nightmarish.

Jazz does look good in car mode. Robot mode is decent, but he has tiny claws for hands, and his arms get caught in his chest and don't feature the full range of motion Jetfire / Skyfire does.

Despite all of this, however, Maria likes Jazz, so bear that in mind as I gripe and grumble.