The Energon Pub

Between a mixture of Hasbro and 3rd Parties, we're nearing a completion of pre-Movie characters, and there's a good chunk of season 3 characters that have been done as well. Sure there's a few who could do with better representations (I'm looking at you Hot Rod), but it's still decent.

This year it appears to be combiner wars with Hasbro vs 3rd Parties, which will only benefit us collectors.

So after 2015, where will you want your collection to go?

This is something I've been thinking about for a while. Not counting upgrades/replacements (and non cartoon characters) and stuff that has been teased, there are only 10 characters I still need figures for. Unfortunately I don't see half of them being made.

As for 2015, I see myself finishing off my Classics collection, for the most part. Dinobots (GCreation), Protectobots (TFC), Autobot Clones (X2), Throttlebots (TW), Technobots and Combaticons (WB), Terrorcons (UT), and Headmasters (FP). Thank you 3P for helping complete my collection!

I also plan to buy every combiner team Hasbro releases, as well as Optimus, and all the legends toys designed to go with them.

After 2015 my collecting will be slowing down a bit. There will just be Masterpiece and the odd impulse buy.

I reached my tipping point just before Trailbreaker came out and sold most of my Classics off. It's weird but whenever I nearly finish a collection, I drop it. I prefer the race more than the goal I guess. Now I'm going for Masterpieces because that's going to take another decade and cost a fortune.

I love my Classics collection!

My current collection is still evolving into what I hope will be my perfect representation of screened characters from all four seasons of the G1 cartoon all reasonably scaled and ready to roll out!

Where a character hasnt had a Deluxe or Voyager figure which scales well enough produced by Hasbro, I look for a 3rd Party or self made custom to fill in, maybe permanently until something better comes along, affordability allowing.

Should anyone be interested, my evolving list is as follows with the blanks still needing a figure!

G1 Season 1 Autobots – Classics Line Up
Bluestreak – Universe Deluxe
Brawn – Beast Hunters Deluxe Bulkhead
Bumblebee – Henkei Deluxe
Cliffjumper – Universe Deluxe
Gears – SXS Deluxe Continuously Variable
Grimlock – Fall of Cybertron Voyager
Hauler – Reveal the Shield Voyager Grapple
Hound – Universe Deluxe
Huffer – X-Transbots Master Mini MM-I Voyager Krank
Ironhide – Universe Deluxe
Jazz – Reveal the Shield Deluxe
Mirage – Robots in Disguise Deluxe
Optimus Prime – Toy World Voyager Orion
Orion Pax – Generations Deluxe
Prowl – Universe Deluxe
Ratchet – Henkei Deluxe
Sideswipe – Universe Deluxe
Slag - Toyworld
Sludge – Toyworld
Snarl - Toyworld
Sunstreaker – Universe Deluxe
Swoop – Planet X Deluxe Caelus
Trailbreaker – Generations Deluxe Trailcutter
Wheeljack – Generations Deluxe
Windcharger – Prime GDO Deluxe Cliffjumper

G1 Season 2 Autobots – Classics Line Up
Air Raid – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Alpha Trion – AFT Deluxe
Beachcomber – Dark of the Moon Human Alliance Scout Half Track
Blades – Universe Voyager
Blaster – Unique Toys Voyager Soundmixer
Chromia – Generations Deluxe
Cosmos – iGear Scout UFO
Defensor
Devcon – Botcon 2014 Devcon
Dion – TFCC Deluxe
Elita One/Ariel – MMC Deluxe Eupatorium (Red/Pink/White deco)
Fireflight – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Firestar
First Aid
Grapple – Reveal the Shield Voyager
Groove
Hoist – Generations Deluxe
Hotspot – Generations GDO Voyager
Inferno – Universe Voyager
Jetfire – Universe Voyager
Moonracer - MMC Deluxe Zinnea (Green deco)
Omega Supreme – Planet X Genesis
Perceptor – Generations Deluxe
Powerglide – Universe Ultra
Red Alert – Generations Deluxe
Roadbuster – CM Corp Mugen Calibur Voyager
Seaspray – Reveal the Shield Voyager
Silverbolt – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Skids – Generations Deluxe
Skydive – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Slingshot – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Smokescreen – Universe Deluxe
Streetwise
Superion – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Topspin – Mech iDeas Deluxe Apex
Tracks – Generations Deluxe
Twin Twist – Mech iDeas Deluxe Geminus
Whirl – Generations Voyager

G1 Season 3 Autobots – Classics Line Up
Afterburner - Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Arcee – Generations Deluxe
Beta
Blurr – Generations Deluxe
Broadside – Fansproject Ultra Assaulter
Computron - Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Eject – Perfect Effect Legend Ejector
Guardian Robots
Hot Rod – Robots in Disguise Deluxe
Kup – Generations Deluxe w/iGear head upgrade
Lightspeed - Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Nancy
Nosecone - Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Outback – Marvel Crossovers Voyager Wolverine
Pipes – X-Transbots Master Mini MM-II Voyager Stax
Rodimus Prime – Robots in Disguise Deluxe w/Fansproject Protector
Rewind – Perfect Effect Legend Rewinder
Sandstorm – Generations Voyager
Scamper – CHMS Deluxe Deep Cover
Scattershot - Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Six-Gun - Before & After Deluxe Six Sigma
Sky Lynx
Slammer - Before & After Deluxe Six Sigma
Springer – Generations Voyager
Strafe – Maketoys Deluxe Quantron
Swerve – Generations GDO Deluxe
Tailgate
Ultra Magnus – Universe Voyager w/Fansproject City Commander
Wheelie – iGear Scout Busta

G1 Season 4 Autobots – Classics Line Up
Brainstorm – Generations Voyager
Cerebros – Toyworld Ultra Infinitor
Chase – Toyworld Deluxe Trace
Chromedome – Fansproject Deluxe Code
Cloudbreaker/Fastlane - X2 Toys Voyager Autobot Clones
Crosshairs – Marvel Crossovers Voyager Captain America
Fortress Maximus – Toyworld ultra Infinator
Freeway – Toyworld Deluxe
Hardhead – Universe Ultra Hardhead KO
Highbrow
Metroplex – Generations Titan
Pointblank – Cybertron Defence Hotshot
Punch/Counter Punch – CHMS KO Deluxe
Rollbar – Toyworld Deluxe Grind Rod
Searchlight – Toyworld Deluxe Aurora
Sureshot
Wideload – Toyworld Voyager

G1 Season 1 Decepticons – Classics Line Up
Acid Storm – Universe Deluxe
Bitstream – CHMS KO Generic Blue Seeker
Bombshell – Fansproject Deluxe Stormbomb
Bonecrusher – Maketoys Deluxe Bulldozer
Devastator – Maketoys Green Giant Type-61
Frenzy – Perfect Effect Legend Warrior Type-F
Hook – Maketoys Deluxe Mobile Crane
Hotlink – CHMS KO Generic Purple Seeker
Kickback – Fall of Cybertron Deluxe
Laserbeak – KO Masterpiece
Long Haul – Maketoys Deluxe Dump Truck
Megatron – Toy World Voyager Hegemon
Mixmaster – Maketoys Deluxe Mixer
Ramjet – Robots in Disguise Deluxe
Ravage – Device Label USB
Reflector - Perfect Effect Legend Scouting Force X
Rumble – Perfect Effect Legend Warrior Type-R
Scavenger – Maketoys Deluxe Excavator
Scrapper – Maketoys Deluxe Wheel Loader
Shrapnel – Fansproject Deluxe Thundershred
Shockwave – Generations Fall of Cybertron Deluxe
Soundwave – Music Label MP3 Player Spark Blue Deluxe
Starscream – Universe Deluxe
Sunstorm – CHMS KO Generic Yellow Seeker
Thrust – Generations Deluxe
Thundercracker – Generations Deluxe

G1 Season 2 Decepticons – Classics Line Up
Astrotrain – Universe Deluxe
Blast Off – Fansproject Deluxe Explorer
Blitzwing – Generations Voyager
Brawl – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Breakdown – Fansproject Deluxe Car Crash
Bruticus – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe w/Fansproject upgrade
Buzzsaw – KO Masterpiece
Dead End – Fansproject Deluxe Last Chance
Dirge – Generations Deluxe
Drag Strip – Fansproject Deluxe Down Force
Menasor – Fansproject Intimidator
Motormaster – Fansproject Voyager Diesel
Nightbird – Impossible Toys Ninja
Onslaught – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Swindle – Fansproject Deluxe Munitioner
Vortex – Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe
Wildrider – Fansproject Deluxe T-Bone

G1 Season 3 Decepticons – Classics Line Up
Abominus - Unique Toys
Allicons – Impossible Toys Deluxe
Blot - Unique Toys
Brunt - Unique Toys
Cutthroat - Unique Toys
Cyclonus – Universe Deluxe
Divebomb – Unique Toys Deluxe War Hawk
Full Tilt
Galvatron – Unique Toys Voyager Mania King
Headstrong – Unique Toys Deluxe Ironhead
Hunn-Gurrr - Unique Toys
Octane – Universe Deluxe
Overkill – KFC MP Overslay
Predaking – Unique Toys War Lord
Quintessons – Impossible Toys Deluxe Prosecutor
Rampage – Unique Toys Deluxe Violence
Ratbat – KFC MP Badbat
Razorclaw – Unique Toys Voyager War Leo
Rippersnapper - Unique Toys
Runabout – Alternity Deluxe Nemesis Prime
Runamuck – Alternity Deluxe Ultra Magnus
Scourge – Generations Deluxe
Sharticons – Unique Toys Deluxe Sharkies
Sinnertwin - Unique Toys
Slugfest – KFC MP Haymaker
Tantrum – Unique Toys Deluxe Savagebull
Trypticon
Unicron – 25th Anniversary Special Edition

G1 Season 4 Decepticons – Classics Line Up
Apeface
Mindwipe
Misfire
Pounce/Wingspan
Scorponok – Energon Ultra
Sixshot – MMC Hexatron
Skullcruncher – Toyworld Voyager Swamper
Slugslinger
Snapdragon
Triggerhappy – Cybertron Voyager Dirge
Weirdwolf – Fansproject Deluxe Quadruple U

There are still many character that need representing depending on your scale preference but Im sure we will get there one day, until that day, till all are one!

more japanese trilogy/zone, IDW, car robots and UT love. Im trying to capture a true TF universe in classics scale/style.

They have almost all of Beast Wars still to give us. All we got so far are rattrap and Rhinox and (though I wish we wouldnt count them) Dinobot and Cheetor. Next year is the 20th anniversary, hopefully smething good is being cooked up.

Also, I am still hoping for a voyager Astrotrain and a better Ratchet/Ironhide.

I'm close to being done with classics, I should be done in 2015.

I want to go crazy with Combiner wars, but I'm running out of money, and space.

I think one of the things that I'm so hesitant on Combiner wars is I want the original members, and I don't want to pay for 3rd party replacements.

I'm considering just getting Silverbolt and Motormaster.

Now that I think about it, there are a bunch of G1 transformers that we didnt get a classics reinterpretation of. Like Scorponok, Trypticon, Slugslinger, Sharkticon, wheelie, Omega Supreme, Topspin and Twintwist. Although, you are right, those are mostly post film.

And dammit, I really wish we could get a decent Blurr classics toy. A redeco of Drift doesnt make much sense to me, its not sleek at all.

william-james88 wrote:Now that I think about it, there are a bunch of G1 transformers that we didnt get a classics reinterpretation of. Like Scorponok, Trypticon, Slugslinger, Sharkticon, wheelie, Omega Supreme, Topspin and Twintwist. Although, you are right, those are mostly post film.

Some of those are already covered. We have BotCon 2014 Scorponok, a Legends Class Trypticon from 2006 (I know, not what you really want in a Trypticon toy), BotCon 2010 Sharkticons and an upcoming Legends Sharkticon for 2015, Universe 2008 Legends Wheelie and GDO Deluxe Wheelie, Year of the Snake Omega Supreme, and Generations Deluxes Topspin and Twintwist. I'm using Energon Sluglinger as his G1 self currently, but I admit the resemblance is far from perfect in that case.

i have a personal list of figures id like to achieve for my generations shelf. and between hastak and 3P, theres been no love for these G1 guys:
skylynx, trypticon, highbrow, pointblank, sureshot, crosshairs, apeface, snapdragon, triggerhappy, misfire, slugslinger

theres some figures that have been shown love, but didnt meet my expectations/tastes, like FP's headmasters or whoevers making those recent autobot clones.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Now that I think about it, there are a bunch of G1 transformers that we didnt get a classics reinterpretation of. Like Scorponok, Trypticon, Slugslinger, Sharkticon, wheelie, Omega Supreme, Topspin and Twintwist. Although, you are right, those are mostly post film.

Some of those are already covered. We have BotCon 2014 Scorponok, a Legends Class Trypticon from 2006 (I know, not what you really want in a Trypticon toy), BotCon 2010 Sharkticons and an upcoming Legends Sharkticon for 2015, Universe 2008 Legends Wheelie and GDO Deluxe Wheelie, Year of the Snake Omega Supreme, and Generations Deluxes Topspin and Twintwist. I'm using Energon Sluglinger as his G1 self currently, but I admit the resemblance is far from perfect in that case.

None of those got mass market releases. Except for generations Topspin ans twintwist but are they really their G1 counterparts? They didnt combine to form a gestalt in G1.

Universe 2008 Legends Wheelie was mass release. It just suffered from wonky distribution woes. Also, you don't have to combine Generations Topspin and Twin Twist into anything if you don't want to. Yeah, they're arguably from FoC, and are based on FoC molds and designs, but they didn't exist in the game or ancillary fiction (as far as I know), and were made up just for the toyline. I think that makes them fair game for repurposing for their G1 selves. Hasbro is not likely to get around to "Classics" versions of those two any time soon, honestly.

My Classics collection isn't complete until Hasbro gets around to making them all.

For me, "Classics" is basically just beginning. They've done a lot of the, well, classic bots, sure, but I'm more interested in the 'cult favorite' types; the Music Meisters to the Jokers, to borrow from Mkall's avatar.
Plus there's all the other generations to cover (gimme Blackarachnia, Strika, Barricade) and I guess I'm still waiting for a proper MtMtE Whirl.

Ginrai Minor wrote:more japanese trilogy/zone, IDW, car robots and UT love. Im trying to capture a true TF universe in classics scale/style.

I'm pretty much in agreement with you on this one. I feel that we'll see a pretty much completed G1 Seasons 1-4 released by the end of 2016. Pretenders (done as I want them to be) and Micromasters won't be focused on in any real way unless a new 3rd party appears out of nowhere, but I was never all that interested in those lines to begin with so I don't mind too much if they aren't released in any large number.

After this, I suspect 3rd Parties will look primarily to the Japanese series for their inspiration, or possibly shift the focus more to the MP scale.

I do like many of the character designs from the Japanese G1 series, so I'll get them for sure.

I am looking forward to the day where I can call my collection mostly complete. I think I'm closer to that goal now more than ever.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Universe 2008 Legends Wheelie was mass release. It just suffered from wonky distribution woes. Also, you don't have to combine Generations Topspin and Twin Twist into anything if you don't want to. Yeah, they're arguably from FoC, and are based on FoC molds and designs, but they didn't exist in the game or ancillary fiction (as far as I know), and were made up just for the toyline. I think that makes them fair game for repurposing for their G1 selves. Hasbro is not likely to get around to "Classics" versions of those two any time soon, honestly.

While I would not consider what was released as exclusives as classics (or else we would already have all our classics Beasr Wars characters which we do not), I think your comments on Topspin and Twin Twist are spot on. These are the classics rendition we will get for the foreseable future. And the fact that they are from the game (even though they never appeared) doesnt change that since I believe we would lose a lot of classics characters if we discounted their game toys. We would have no classics Shockwave for one, no classics Soundwave or Blaster or casettes and no Voyager Grimlock for our classics collection. All to say that I think people count those generations release as the classics release of figures in a way (let me know if I am wrong, people). Although, we never know with these things. They are remaking Silverbolt afterall and possibly giving us another Onslaught in Combiner Wars (that would make it the 2nd generations Onslaught and the 5th mold of the character in CHUG) so it seems Hasbro has no problems making another mold for classic characters when it deems it right to. And same for Whirl and Roadbuster who teamed up with Top spin and Twin twist to form FOC Ruination. With those last two, I dont know if their very recent releases as completely new molds would mean that people are not counting the FOC figures as classics stand ins or not.

And another thing for topspin and twin twist, with Hasbro geering more and more towards flip and change and easy transformations for yournger audiences, I believe bringing that idea to the generations line for these 2 would be a pretty good idea. We could see how modern engineering could improve the 80s jump starters.

Well, there were some toys for Spiderman, Captain America, and Iron Man a couple years back that pretty much WERE Topspin and Twintwist redesigned...

Valandar wrote:Well, there were some toys for Spiderman, Captain America, and Iron Man a couple years back that pretty much WERE Topspin and Twintwist redesigned...

Proof that old designs don't just die, they get sold to Disney!

robotmel wrote:

Valandar wrote:Well, there were some toys for Spiderman, Captain America, and Iron Man a couple years back that pretty much WERE Topspin and Twintwist redesigned...

Proof that old designs don't just die, they get sold to Disney!

I just realized that Spidey there has a cockpit for a cock.

robotmel wrote:

Valandar wrote:Well, there were some toys for Spiderman, Captain America, and Iron Man a couple years back that pretty much WERE Topspin and Twintwist redesigned...

Proof that old designs don't just die, they get sold to Disney!

I cant believe this exists.

william-james88 wrote:I cant believe this exists.

you and me both...

You know what, the worst part about those jump starter marvel figures is that Tops Spin and Twin Twist actually transform more by having new pieces appear in alt mode (the nozzles behind the robot legs) giving them a semblance of transformation. These dont even try, all these years later.