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I don't know if it's been covered here, I personally haven't seen the thread, but maybe I missed one. But the more I look at Prime's movie sword, the more I'm convinced it's either a hybrid sword/axe or just a straight out axe.


It's only got an edge going one direction and it's curved around that side and then curves back in towards the lower hilt like an oldstyle battle axe or something. The part he actually used on Bonecrusher first was the edge to lop off his arm before he shoved the pointed tip through him. So it looks like he actually chopped with it instead of more a sword like swipe or swing. Running the tip through BC could also be done with a sharpened axe tip.

Aside from the music, here's a site someone has that's also asking the question.

http://movieoptimusaxe.ytmnd.com/

Pontimax 01 wrote:I don't know if it's been covered here, I personally haven't seen the thread, but maybe I missed one. But the more I look at Prime's movie sword, the more I'm convinced it's either a hybrid sword/axe or just a straight out axe.


It's only got an edge going one direction and it's curved around that side and then curves back in towards the lower hilt like an oldstyle battle axe or something. The part he actually used on Bonecrusher first was the edge to lop off his arm before he shoved the pointed tip through him. So it looks like he actually chopped with it instead of more a sword like swipe or swing. Running the tip through BC could also be done with a sharpened axe tip.

Aside from the music, here's a site someone has that's also asking the question.

http://movieoptimusaxe.ytmnd.com/

No, it is definately a sword. Not all swords are double-edged, and there are many fantasy-styled swords with really nasty barbs and wickedly shaped blades. Also, an ax is a wide plade on a long shaft. Prime's sword was all blade.

I still disagree. I think they intended it to be a hybrid maybe, or a homage to his G1 axe. I think we just called it a sword after the movie and that's kind of stuck.

And it happens to look an awful lot like this...

http://www.boldblades.com/Catalog%20Pho ... e%20Ax.jpg

(Edit: I took the image coding off because that picture was just huge and I got tired of having to scroll across the screen)

Or this one, which is the same basically. Site said it was styled after a real 15th Century battle axe, but this one is a reproduction.

Yes, but if you look, those pics are of a weapon which has a short, wide blade extending sideways from the end of a long shaft. Prime has a weapon which has a long, single-edged blade, with no shaft at all, that extends straight out from his wrist, just like a normal hand-held sword extends striaght out from its hilt. The blade is just shaped with an added broad head. It is still a sword. Frankly, Prime's sword looks nothing like an ax, and certainly nothing like thos pictures. It is a sword. While it is an homage to his G1 ax, it is not an ax. It is a sword.

Keep saying it, say it in bold all you want, but I personally disagree, until at the very least I see one of the CGI people explicitly say "sword" and not axe.

Of course it doesn't have a handle, because that's what was so retarded about the axe from G1, otherwise yes it does look like an Axe head, even with the bladed length below the head. That thing looks like it's more for chopping at an enemy. We don't even know if that shaft can actually cut, because it's not clear enough to tell how effective it would be. And if nothing else, it's still a hybrid of an axe and sword. But it's not purely a sword.

Pontimax 01 wrote:Keep saying it, say it in bold all you want, but I personally disagree, until at the very least I see one of the CGI people explicitly say "sword" and not axe.

Of course it doesn't have a handle, because that's what was so retarded about the axe from G1, otherwise yes it does look like an Axe head, even with the bladed length below the head. That thing looks like it's more for chopping at an enemy. We don't even know if that shaft can actually cut, because it's not clear enough to tell how effective it would be. And if nothing else, it's still a hybrid of an axe and sword. But it's not purely a sword.

It is all blade and extends diretly out, not to the side. If it were an ax, the blade would extend perpendicular from the side of his arm, or be attached to a shaft extending from his wrist. It isn't on a shaft, and it doesn't extend like a fan purpendicular from the end of a shaft. It's a long, slender blade which comes straight out from the wrist, not perpendicular. In fact, Most medieval swords were meant as hacking weapons, not primatily stabbing. They had relatively blunt tip, and semi-sharp edges that cut deep wounds in the flesh. They weren't razor sharp, I'll tell you that much. Prime's sword is basically a broadsword or short sword.

All I am saying is this, that it looks like the head of an axe, and that it was intentional, whether the shaft is sharpened or not, and even if it is, it's still more of a hybrid so that its more of an homage to G1 then it is straight sword.

It's the head that makes it look a chopping weapon. There is an (parden the pun) axe effect.

I consider it a sword, with the end of it designed to be reminiscent of Prime's Energon axe. If it were an axe, I don't think he would have stabbed upwards into Bonecrusher's head.

That Prime used it to slice AND thrust straight means that it is a sword.

Watching the clip again, he brings it down on Bonecrushers arm, chopping it off like splitting wood. And I'm pretty sure I could stab someone with the end of that axe in the pic.

Like I said, if anything, it's a hybrid, not purely either.

You can chop an arm off like chopping wood with a sword too. I own a sword specifically designed for just such tasks; a single-edged Germanic short sword called a Scramasax. Secondly, no, an ax can't be used as a stabbing weapon, They are simply not designed for it. Their blades are too wide

Tramp wrote:You can chop an arm off like chopping wood with a sword too. I own a sword specifically designed for just such tasks; a single-edged Germanic short sword called a Scramasax. Secondly, no, an ax can't be used as a stabbing weapon, They are simply not designed for it. Their blades are too wide

So you don't think that sword with the pointed tip could stab you in the neck? Wanna risk it and try?

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Tramp wrote:You can chop an arm off like chopping wood with a sword too. I own a sword specifically designed for just such tasks; a single-edged Germanic short sword called a Scramasax. Secondly, no, an ax can't be used as a stabbing weapon, They are simply not designed for it. Their blades are too wide

So you don't think that sword with the pointed tip could stab you in the neck? Wanna risk it and try?

A sword most certainly can. An ax isn't going to go in very deep becasue the edge is not at the tip. The tip is pretty blunt. Axes are not designed for stabbing at all. The blades are too wide and the edge is not aligned for stabbing.

Tramp wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Tramp wrote:You can chop an arm off like chopping wood with a sword too. I own a sword specifically designed for just such tasks; a single-edged Germanic short sword called a Scramasax. Secondly, no, an ax can't be used as a stabbing weapon, They are simply not designed for it. Their blades are too wide

So you don't think that sword with the pointed tip could stab you in the neck? Wanna risk it and try?

A sword most certainly can. An ax isn't going to go in very deep becasue the edge is not at the tip. The tip is pretty blunt. Axes are not designed for stabbing at all. The blades are too wide and the edge is not aligned for stabbing.

You didn't answer my question. With the tip on that axe I posted, would you dare let someone take a shot at you throat? I'm pretty damn sure that would do some massive damage regardless if it's "designed" to or not. It comes to a point, and it wouldn't have to be much of a point to do the necessary damage. So again, I ask would you put your neck to the test?

Guys, don't get into an argument with this troll. It's clearly a HYBRID. Tramp just doesn't like reaching a compromise, he thinks he's right all the time.

Shirogoshi wrote:Guys, don't get into an argument with this troll. It's clearly a HYBRID. Tramp just doesn't like reaching a compromise, he thinks he's right all the time.

Thank you, I can easily accept it's a hybrid, because it just doesn't share the properties of either exclusively.

I am pretty sure it was a Scimator. One of those pirate swords, that's why it looks a bit like an axe.

Bumbled wrote:I am pretty sure it was a Scimator. One of those pirate swords, that's why it looks a bit like an axe.

Actually, you're thinking of the Cutlass, The Scimitar is an Arabian sword of similar shape.

How about a falchion?

Or even the smaller version of the katana (don't remember the name), since most curved swords are made for slashing, but some are capable of both slashing and stabbing.

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Tramp wrote:You can chop an arm off like chopping wood with a sword too. I own a sword specifically designed for just such tasks; a single-edged Germanic short sword called a Scramasax. Secondly, no, an ax can't be used as a stabbing weapon, They are simply not designed for it. Their blades are too wide

So you don't think that sword with the pointed tip could stab you in the neck? Wanna risk it and try?

A sword most certainly can. An ax isn't going to go in very deep becasue the edge is not at the tip. The tip is pretty blunt. Axes are not designed for stabbing at all. The blades are too wide and the edge is not aligned for stabbing.

You didn't answer my question. With the tip on that axe I posted, would you dare let someone take a shot at you throat? I'm pretty damn sure that would do some massive damage regardless if it's "designed" to or not. It comes to a point, and it wouldn't have to be much of a point to do the necessary damage. So again, I ask would you put your neck to the test?

I Think Your All Wrong. I Think Its Neither A Sword Or A Axe, But A Vibrateing Saw, Cause When Prime Sticks It In Bonecrushers Throat It Vibrates, And Its Sarated Look At The Picture. Plus Why Are We Talking About This.

Raymond101 wrote:How about a falchion?

Or even the smaller version of the katana (don't remember the name), since most curved swords are made for slashing, but some are capable of both slashing and stabbing.

The smaller version of a Katana is called a Wakasashi.
And, yes, it could be a falchion. For anyone who doesn't know what a falchion is, Here's a picture—

Tramp wrote:

Bumbled wrote:I am pretty sure it was a Scimator. One of those pirate swords, that's why it looks a bit like an axe.

Actually, you're thinking of the Cutlass, The Scimitar is an Arabian sword of similar shape.

Ah yes thanks for that

seems like everyone is forgetting that this sword is on his arm. if anyone has a broad sword attached to their arm for instance they would use a hacking motion when using it. to fully use a sword you need it to be in your hand and using wrist action. so yes its a sword but because of it being connected its used in a ax fassion.

I would say Axe for no reason other than that's what I say. It was an axe in G1, and that's what I kept calling it. Plus, a sword would have the blade going down to the hilt. This doesn't.

Though a hybrid sounds good to me too.

Yeah, it's a Swax.