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Postby babylon queen » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:37 pm

Whose bright idea was it to make another transformer X or Rampage using Starscream's spark?
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Postby Izanami » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:44 pm

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Postby MaP_Prime » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:59 pm

I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:31 am

Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.
I felt that it was good.
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Postby ChrisR291 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:13 am

Deadpool. wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.
I felt that it was good.



Second! It was nice of hasbro to acknowledge the previous series. If I didn't see those G1 references... i'd of probably never watched it.


(Oh and... yeah Beast Wars is the best Transformers series! 8) )
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Re: bad idea in beast wars

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:57 am

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babylon queen wrote:Whose bright idea was it to make another transformer X or Rampage using Starscream's spark?


Are you referring to the God like character in the new Beast Wars comic book???????/
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Re: bad idea in beast wars

Postby zemper » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:48 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
babylon queen wrote:Whose bright idea was it to make another transformer X or Rampage using Starscream's spark?


Are you referring to the God like character in the new Beast Wars comic book???????/


hmm, maybe the reference is to the making of Ravage, or Protoform X.


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Postby Decepticon Spike » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:57 am

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Deadpool. wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.
I felt that it was good.



Second! It was nice of hasbro to acknowledge the previous series. If I didn't see those G1 references... i'd of probably never watched it.


(Oh and... yeah Beast Wars is the best Transformers series! 8) )

It was the G1 stuff that got me to watch it.
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Re: bad idea in beast wars

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:32 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
babylon queen wrote:Whose bright idea was it to make another transformer X or Rampage using Starscream's spark?


Are you referring to the God like character in the new Beast Wars comic book???????/


hmm, maybe the reference is to the making of Ravage, or Protoform X.


:MAX:


I think hes talking about how Rampage and the god like Shockaract look the same.
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Postby Ddave » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:42 am

Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.


As you may or may not know, it was never intended to continue from G1, and the writers knew very very little about transformers when they started the series.

It wasnt until late in the season when they were a bit in tuned with G1 stuff, and decided they could do tie ins.

It didn't have anything to do with hasbro either. With beast wars, the writers had almost 100% creative control over the story, with the exception of bringing in characters, and killing them off.

p.s Beast Wars is the best TF'ers series to date. By far!
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:02 pm

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Ddave wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.


As you may or may not know, it was never intended to continue from G1, and the writers knew very very little about transformers when they started the series.

It wasnt until late in the season when they were a bit in tuned with G1 stuff, and decided they could do tie ins.

It didn't have anything to do with hasbro either. With beast wars, the writers had almost 100% creative control over the story, with the exception of bringing in characters, and killing them off.

p.s Beast Wars is the best TF'ers series to date. By far!


I understood it a little different.The guys that piched the idea of a beast Wars cartoon wanted it to be conected to G1 even thou they didnt know much about it.The first treatment had it a a continuation of G1 with Primal being a new body for G1 Prime.Hasbro head honchoes rejected the idea cause they were hoping that the Machine Wars toyline would also get a show and wanted that one tied to G1 so they told the writters of BW to make it a new start with no connection to G1.But the writters left the back door open [so to speek] on the topic of G1.
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Postby AxiomScion » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:05 pm

Ddave wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.


As you may or may not know, it was never intended to continue from G1, and the writers knew very very little about transformers when they started the series.

It wasnt until late in the season when they were a bit in tuned with G1 stuff, and decided they could do tie ins.

It didn't have anything to do with hasbro either. With beast wars, the writers had almost 100% creative control over the story, with the exception of bringing in characters, and killing them off.

p.s Beast Wars is the best TF'ers series to date. By far!
Chalk one up to writters with creative control.

Although I really hope that didn't apply to the Bowel Movement that followed.
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Postby Ddave » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:04 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Ddave wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.


As you may or may not know, it was never intended to continue from G1, and the writers knew very very little about transformers when they started the series.

It wasnt until late in the season when they were a bit in tuned with G1 stuff, and decided they could do tie ins.

It didn't have anything to do with hasbro either. With beast wars, the writers had almost 100% creative control over the story, with the exception of bringing in characters, and killing them off.

p.s Beast Wars is the best TF'ers series to date. By far!


I understood it a little different.The guys that piched the idea of a beast Wars cartoon wanted it to be conected to G1 even thou they didnt know much about it.The first treatment had it a a continuation of G1 with Primal being a new body for G1 Prime.Hasbro head honchoes rejected the idea cause they were hoping that the Machine Wars toyline would also get a show and wanted that one tied to G1 so they told the writters of BW to make it a new start with no connection to G1.But the writters left the back door open [so to speek] on the topic of G1.


I don't remember about who pitched the idea, all I know is about the writers. Bob and Larry. I have the Madman DVD's, and they are really in-depth about all this kind of thing. Things like talking about the great war was just a great coincidence, and having the two moons and then destroying one making it earth, the same thing. The writers didn't turn the planet into earth until well into season one.

If you don't have these DVD's, pick them up. They are fantastic.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:12 pm

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Ddave wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Ddave wrote:
Wodicus wrote:I always thought Beast Wars being a continuation of the G1 story line to be a bad idea.


As you may or may not know, it was never intended to continue from G1, and the writers knew very very little about transformers when they started the series.

It wasnt until late in the season when they were a bit in tuned with G1 stuff, and decided they could do tie ins.

It didn't have anything to do with hasbro either. With beast wars, the writers had almost 100% creative control over the story, with the exception of bringing in characters, and killing them off.

p.s Beast Wars is the best TF'ers series to date. By far!


I understood it a little different.The guys that piched the idea of a beast Wars cartoon wanted it to be conected to G1 even thou they didnt know much about it.The first treatment had it a a continuation of G1 with Primal being a new body for G1 Prime.Hasbro head honchoes rejected the idea cause they were hoping that the Machine Wars toyline would also get a show and wanted that one tied to G1 so they told the writters of BW to make it a new start with no connection to G1.But the writters left the back door open [so to speek] on the topic of G1.


I don't remember about who pitched the idea, all I know is about the writers. Bob and Larry. I have the Madman DVD's, and they are really in-depth about all this kind of thing. Things like talking about the great war was just a great coincidence, and having the two moons and then destroying one making it earth, the same thing. The writers didn't turn the planet into earth until well into season one.

If you don't have these DVD's, pick them up. They are fantastic.


I'll admit the " pitched the idea" thing is most likely partly conjecture but its from the mouths of Bob Forward and Larry Ditillo.They made the statment at a convention I went to in the 90's.Wether or not they were telling the whole truth is anyones guess.
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Postby Ramrider » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:51 pm

I don't think that's what the question is at all. I think she's asking what dumb-arsed Maximal thought it was a good idea to try and replicate Starscream's indestructible spark, thereby resulting in the ever-lovin' sociopath we know as Rampage.

Answer, no clue, they never went into specifics as to exactly who came up with and approved the plan. They were clearly cruising for a slap, though - surely they'd read 'Frankenstein'? :P
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Postby AxiomScion » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:11 am

Ramrider wrote:I don't think that's what the question is at all. I think she's asking what dumb-arsed Maximal thought it was a good idea to try and replicate Starscream's indestructible spark, thereby resulting in the ever-lovin' sociopath we know as Rampage.

Answer, no clue, they never went into specifics as to exactly who came up with and approved the plan. They were clearly cruising for a slap, though - surely they'd read 'Frankenstein'? :P
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Postby SephM » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:57 pm

Even if it was a bad idea to creat him, im glad Rampage was created. With out a doubt he was one of my fav predacons :D.
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Postby Decepticon Spike » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:58 pm

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AxiomScion wrote:
Ramrider wrote:I don't think that's what the question is at all. I think she's asking what dumb-arsed Maximal thought it was a good idea to try and replicate Starscream's indestructible spark, thereby resulting in the ever-lovin' sociopath we know as Rampage.

Answer, no clue, they never went into specifics as to exactly who came up with and approved the plan. They were clearly cruising for a slap, though - surely they'd read 'Frankenstein'? :P
I blame Wheeljack |:|

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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:58 pm

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AxiomScion wrote:
Ramrider wrote:I don't think that's what the question is at all. I think she's asking what dumb-arsed Maximal thought it was a good idea to try and replicate Starscream's indestructible spark, thereby resulting in the ever-lovin' sociopath we know as Rampage.

Answer, no clue, they never went into specifics as to exactly who came up with and approved the plan. They were clearly cruising for a slap, though - surely they'd read 'Frankenstein'? :P
I blame Wheeljack |:|

Give the mech a tin can and two diodes you get a fussion reactor; give him a quantum replicator and a blue seeker's boot... /:)

Wheeljack died before they ever knew Starscream was a Highlander...I mean immortal.


Can it be said that Starscream is the only immortal.He's not the only one to come back anymore.
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Postby General Magnus » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:02 pm

Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:23 pm

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General Magnus wrote:Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?


I beleive hes some kind of God like character who is a hearld for Unicron but is planing on steeling the energy the Unicron needs to re-create him self.But not much has been said about his role in the book yet.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:36 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
General Magnus wrote:Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?


I beleive hes some kind of God like character who is a hearld for Unicron but is planing on steeling the energy the Unicron needs to re-create him self.But not much has been said about his role in the book yet.


Hell, he could even be Unicron himself, in either a role similar to Sideways in Armada, where he is but a watered down version of himself, or the Tank Unicron figure in the Cybertron series, slowly regathering Energy in smaller forms before he can re-transfer himself into his planetoid body...
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:50 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
General Magnus wrote:Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?


I beleive hes some kind of God like character who is a hearld for Unicron but is planing on steeling the energy the Unicron needs to re-create him self.But not much has been said about his role in the book yet.


Hell, he could even be Unicron himself, in either a role similar to Sideways in Armada, where he is but a watered down version of himself, or the Tank Unicron figure in the Cybertron series, slowly regathering Energy in smaller forms before he can re-transfer himself into his planetoid body...


He could also be Unicrons lover :-P
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
General Magnus wrote:Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?


I beleive hes some kind of God like character who is a hearld for Unicron but is planing on steeling the energy the Unicron needs to re-create him self.But not much has been said about his role in the book yet.


Hell, he could even be Unicron himself, in either a role similar to Sideways in Armada, where he is but a watered down version of himself, or the Tank Unicron figure in the Cybertron series, slowly regathering Energy in smaller forms before he can re-transfer himself into his planetoid body...


He could also be Unicrons lover :-P


Bom-chicka-wow-wow!

I think that is Antagony's role though... :P
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:00 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
General Magnus wrote:Can someone explain to me the role of Shockaract in the new comics?


I beleive hes some kind of God like character who is a hearld for Unicron but is planing on steeling the energy the Unicron needs to re-create him self.But not much has been said about his role in the book yet.


Hell, he could even be Unicron himself, in either a role similar to Sideways in Armada, where he is but a watered down version of himself, or the Tank Unicron figure in the Cybertron series, slowly regathering Energy in smaller forms before he can re-transfer himself into his planetoid body...


He could also be Unicrons lover :-P


Bom-chicka-wow-wow!

I think that is Antagony's role though... :P


Unicron's a "Bigamist" and besides its not like there isnt enough of him to go around :-P
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