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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Tekka » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:31 pm

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Tekka wrote:There's never going to be a definitive answer to the question of the doctor being detectable by active or passive sonar. In this case it's best to give the movie the benefit of the doubt. We simply don't have enough information to establish the truth.

Also... "energy signatures"... That's not how sonar works. Don't make me hurt you!


I agree as it's "for the movies" but I never once said Energy signatures and how sonar works. I said machinery.

I would be willing to put a pay check up that if we can pick up shrimp popping, bottom contour, whales, noises....etc, etc, that we could pick them up moving that fast through the water. There gigantic robots. not jellyfish floating through the water

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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby dirk2243 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:43 pm

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My only question about ROTF is....

How do the Twins beat down Devy?

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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:44 pm

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dirk2243 wrote:My only question about ROTF is....

How do the Twins beat down Devy?

Guess I'll have to wait on this guy's part 2 review


They don't. Mudflap was just eaten, then bust out of his face. Then they ran.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:18 pm

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He didn't say that he does not understand how anyone could like teenage girls, he stated he doesn't see the appeal in Megan Fox, since he is not attracted to her.
That has nothing to do with intelligence, but simple personal taste.

Also, why must a video like this cause such an effect again? I thought we where over this already.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Xithys » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:33 pm

I honestly think DotM will come and go and people will still be arguing about RotF.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Chaoslock » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:36 pm

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Xithys wrote:I honestly think DotM will come and go and people will still be arguing about RotF.


Depends on DotM. If it will be near the level of Movie 1, people will just call RotF a filler, if it will be worse than RotF, people will have a new flick to throw stones at.

I guess we will find it out on june 28.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Burn » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:38 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:Also, why must a video like this cause such an effect again? I thought we where over this already.


Because some people (and there's less than half a dozen of them) don't know when to bloody quit.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Xithys » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Chaoslock wrote:
Xithys wrote:I honestly think DotM will come and go and people will still be arguing about RotF.


Depends on DotM. If it will be near the level of Movie 1, people will just call RotF a filler, if it will be worse than RotF, people will have a new flick to throw stones at.

I guess we will find it out on june 28.


That's a good point. Funny how the better movies tend to have less lasting attention.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby dirk2243 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:21 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:He didn't say that he does not understand how anyone could like teenage girls, he stated he doesn't see the appeal in Megan Fox, since he is not attracted to her.
That has nothing to do with intelligence, but simple personal taste.

Also, why must a video like this cause such an effect again? I thought we where over this already.


No, I'm talking about the part where he is talking about the Professor that makes sexual innuendo's and likes teenage girls. He rolled his eyes and what not saying this is just another of Bay's crazy characters.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:22 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:He didn't say that he does not understand how anyone could like teenage girls, he stated he doesn't see the appeal in Megan Fox, since he is not attracted to her.
That has nothing to do with intelligence, but simple personal taste.

Also, why must a video like this cause such an effect again? I thought we where over this already.


No, I'm talking about the part where he is talking about the Professor that makes sexual innuendo's and likes teenage girls. He rolled his eyes and what not saying this is just another of Bay's crazy characters.


If he actually watched the commentary, he'd know that the professor is based on one of Bay's college professors that he had while in college.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Tekka » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:22 pm

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That was probably just a dig at the character being a creepy dirty old man.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:49 pm

Tekka wrote:That was probably just a dig at the character being a creepy dirty old man.


I think Film Brain missed the joke there. Then again he missed alot of things, now that I watched the review. :roll:
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Tekka » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:10 pm

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I dunno... The character is quite creepy and... wrong.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:25 pm

Tekka wrote:I dunno... The character is quite creepy and... wrong.


Yeah that's kinda the point. Trope related: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KavorkaMan
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Tekka » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:37 pm

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Ooh, I see what you mean.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Starscream GaGa » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:26 am

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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Capt.Failure » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:06 am

Starscream GaGa wrote:Part 2 is up, kids!

http://blip.tv/film-brain/bad-movie-bea ... wo-5294645


Considering how annoying the first part was, I'll find better things to do with my time than watch part 2. Also, he's really gotta stop faking that accent.

To his credit even though his videos are loaded with "trying too hard" I did like his review of Equilibrium. That film had it coming. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby shamone » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:02 pm

agree with the first few minutes anyway

having seen the review, yeah h gets a lot of it spot on.

only thing is was wheelie really only created, i dont know.


In selected bits though the movie doesnt look too bad though :-)
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:02 pm

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Still annoying as ever, but he presents more valid points in the second part. Funnier too; actually managed to make me chuckle a few times.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Tyrannotaur » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:16 pm

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I like Film Brain, he is a funny guy. I watch his stuff as well as alot of other TGWTG casts stuff regularly. I do feel he makes alot of valid points in his reviews but often he nitpicks way too much. He also brings up the points that I feel have been discussed to death (Devastators Wrecking Balls, Wheelie humping, The Twins being racial stereotypes, Simmon's butt cheeks, etc) and I know he has to bring those up, but I feel like its been talked about so much that its just annoying to hear complaints about them. Other stuff like not knowing what a space bridge is (to be fair though Jetfire gives a one sentence explanation of it)and who various transformers are is just a result of not being a transformers fan and just being a regular everyday Joe (much like Nostalgia Critic's Pokemon the first movie review I might add). Though him not knowing who the Arcee team is was kind of silly. He knew who Rampage and other characters where from I assume Wikipedia's summary, yet Team Arcee's name is establish in the shot when they are all riding in Shanghai. Just a nitpick of my own.

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen is a mess of a movie. I agree that the movie has too much comic relief padding but not enough action to warrant relieving us with the said padding. There are continuity errors galore and plot holes. Much of this has to do with the Writer's strike problem and the studio's inpatients to wait for it to end. However I do enjoy the movie. Its a decent ride of a movie and has some good scenes. While the bad stuff of the movie is bad, there is still alot of decent stuff. This film is no Dark Knight, but anyone going in and expecting it to be that is a fool. Transformer's are capable of telling very good story lines, but Micheal Bay isn't that good of a story teller. I do like Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, It is a guilty pleasure of mine, much like the Pokemon movies (Well most of them). I know how alot of people despise the movie and its their right too. I have high hopes that Dark of the Moon will at least reassure some critics that these movies are capable of having a solid narrative.

TL;DR I like Film Brains Reviews, I think he can be too nitpicky at times, but he makes valid points here. I personally liked Transformers ROTF even though I agree it had alot of problems.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby shamone » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm

Tyrannotaur wrote:I like Film Brain, he is a funny guy. I watch his stuff as well as alot of other TGWTG casts stuff regularly. I do feel he makes alot of valid points in his reviews but often he nitpicks way too much. He also brings up the points that I feel have been discussed to death (Devastators Wrecking Balls, Wheelie humping, The Twins being racial stereotypes, Simmon's butt cheeks, etc) and I know he has to bring those up, but I feel like its been talked about so much that its just annoying to hear complaints about them. Other stuff like not knowing what a space bridge is (to be fair though Jetfire gives a one sentence explanation of it)and who various transformers are is just a result of not being a transformers fan and just being a regular everyday Joe (much like Nostalgia Critic's Pokemon the first movie review I might add). Though him not knowing who the Arcee team is was kind of silly. He knew who Rampage and other characters where from I assume Wikipedia's summary, yet Team Arcee's name is establish in the shot when they are all riding in Shanghai. Just a nitpick of my own.

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen is a mess of a movie. I agree that the movie has too much comic relief padding but not enough action to warrant relieving us with the said padding. There are continuity errors galore and plot holes. Much of this has to do with the Writer's strike problem and the studio's inpatients to wait for it to end. However I do enjoy the movie. Its a decent ride of a movie and has some good scenes. While the bad stuff of the movie is bad, there is still alot of decent stuff. This film is no Dark Knight, but anyone going in and expecting it to be that is a fool. Transformer's are capable of telling very good story lines, but Micheal Bay isn't that good of a story teller. I do like Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, It is a guilty pleasure of mine, much like the Pokemon movies (Well most of them). I know how alot of people despise the movie and its their right too. I have high hopes that Dark of the Moon will at least reassure some critics that these movies are capable of having a solid narrative.

TL;DR I like Film Brains Reviews, I think he can be too nitpicky at times, but he makes valid points here. I personally liked Transformers ROTF even though I agree it had alot of problems.


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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Counterpunch » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:03 am

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I think I saw that the guy who wrote this stated that he was proud of the little "flame war" he started in this thread.

I hope someone is proud.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:11 am

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Tyrannotaur wrote: This film is no Dark Knight, but anyone going in and expecting it to be that is a fool.


No, really? I was so confused when I went to see ROTF and there was no Batman! Maybe that explains it.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:26 am

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Counterpunch wrote:I think I saw that the guy who wrote this stated that he was proud of the little "flame war" he started in this thread.

I hope someone is proud.
Thank the OP for that.


Personally, i don't even know why threads like this are even allowed. There must be 2 dozen or so already, 10+ pages deep. Its the same argument over and over and the results are the same. The movie is 2 years old already with the third coming out in less than a week. People who don't like the movie.. Deal with it. Its done, it over, its not going to change. People that like it...Chances are your not going to change anyone that didn't like it. Like i said, its the same crap over and over. Everyone on both sides just needs to get over it and move on.
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Re: Bad Movie Beatdown- TF: ROTF

Postby Chaoslock » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:58 am

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Counterpunch wrote:I think I saw that the guy who wrote this stated that he was proud of the little "flame war" he started in this thread.

I hope someone is proud.
Thank the OP for that.


Personally, i don't even know why threads like this are even allowed. There must be 2 dozen or so already, 10+ pages deep. Its the same argument over and over and the results are the same. The movie is 2 years old already with the third coming out in less than a week. People who don't like the movie.. Deal with it. Its done, it over, its not going to change. People that like it...Chances are your not going to change anyone that didn't like it. Like i said, its the same crap over and over. Everyone on both sides just needs to get over it and move on.


It's like democratic parliaments... you know you can't change your opponents opinion and the numbers are either on your or your opponents side allready, but you just have to argue.
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