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Transtech>Everything Hasbro did post-BM(Minus Alts and Classics)
Every time I see that Cheetor I want it more and more!
I WANT TRANSTECH!!! Skywarp-2 go tell Hasbro to do Transtech. cmonnnnn

To me it looks like we pretty much got something very Transtech with the movie. I've said that since I saw the original BB design about a year ago. That's why I like the movie design so much, I loved the Transtech designs. With the exception of RID, I really think we got cheated outta this with the current lines.

This thread just reminds me of how mad I am that they cancelled the Transtech line in favor of RiD, I would have bought every single one of them and still will if they ever decided to do it.

Phenotype wrote:This thread just reminds me of how mad I am that they cancelled the Transtech line in favor of RiD, I would have bought every single one of them and still will if they ever decided to do it.

I am still hungover from my brief foray with RiD.

Wake me up in a couple of years, okay?

At least they reissued Fort Max as Brave Max for Rid/car Robots...so it was not a total waste.

kirbenvost wrote:What are you on about, zodconvoy? Ties to Hasbro?? Huh?

I think we got Transtech with the movie, and it's enough. The only one of those I really like is Starscream, and he needs a better head.

Not exactly, movie toys are realistic vehicle modes and sci-fied up to eleven robot designs. Transtech is more "Beast Machines squared, with a little extra anime influence, but all being vehicles". I'd love it if they snuch the Starscream and Cheetor toys they already had finished into the movie line somehow, maybe as "protoforms" for Bumblebee and somebody else, but past that, I'd just as soon move on.

skywarp-2 wrote:Actually Counterpunch is very apt at making things look a certain way..

It's called 'Truthiness'.

Phenotype wrote:This thread just reminds me of how mad I am that they cancelled the Transtech line in favor of RiD, I would have bought every single one of them and still will if they ever decided to do it.

But without RID we would have never have had that sweet optimus prime Fire truck and ultra Magnus combo that is Omega Prime!!!

Nemesis Primal wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:What are you on about, zodconvoy? Ties to Hasbro?? Huh?

I think we got Transtech with the movie, and it's enough. The only one of those I really like is Starscream, and he needs a better head.

Not exactly, movie toys are realistic vehicle modes and sci-fied up to eleven robot designs. Transtech is more "Beast Machines squared, with a little extra anime influence, but all being vehicles". I'd love it if they snuch the Starscream and Cheetor toys they already had finished into the movie line somehow, maybe as "protoforms" for Bumblebee and somebody else, but past that, I'd just as soon move on.

i like that idea, the cheetor mold looks like i could very well be a cybertronian car with a very robotish alt mode that could also double as a protoform.. The images i found only show he bot mold almost complete but not with the cheetor head exposed, just look to the design images to see what he was supposed to look like finished.. i love cheetor's alt, it looks so race carish and fast, like extremely fast.. he could have been used as a Bumblebee protoform from cybertron, shoot they need more, optimus and Starscream are the only ones.. I say slap a Movie bumblebee head on that and be done with it..

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Actually Counterpunch is very apt at making things look a certain way..

It's called 'Truthiness'.

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your silly....

The line seems quite generic, really- they resemble all other science fiction created from 1999-2002 or so.

Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

No I'm afraid the Transtech line wouldn't survive. Seeing how complex the Movie designs are Hasbro did their very best to get the toys accurate however the toys for the movie line are as in good enough quality just like the Beast Machine toyline. Yes this isn't a good thing either. The toys seemed rush just like Beast Machines toys so the toys easily want to stay out of place. For instance Brawl's arms don't want to stay put in his sockets and Bumblebee's chest won't go up making Bumblebee one Transformer that doesn't want to be in vehicle mode.

Sheogorath wrote:Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

The later Beast Machines weren't all that bad. Neither were about half of the earlier ones. The biggest problems the line had when it came to sales were the bizarre scaling, the crappy little sub-line that got repainted even while the originals sat on the shelves, and the lack of accuracy to the cartoon that the smaller figures had. If they hadn't screwed-around and tampered with the line to cater to play-testing data (which lead them to believe ginormous Cheetors and Nightscreams and Deployers would be good ideas) it might not have been killed prematurely.

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

The later Beast Machines weren't all that bad. Neither were about half of the earlier ones. The biggest problems the line had when it came to sales were the bizarre scaling, the crappy little sub-line that got repainted even while the originals sat on the shelves, and the lack of accuracy to the cartoon that the smaller figures had. If they hadn't screwed-around and tampered with the line to cater to play-testing data (which lead them to believe ginormous Cheetors and Nightscreams and Deployers would be good ideas) it might not have been killed prematurely.

The vast majority of Beast Machines figures are bizarre and poopy, but there are a few really good ones. Transtech seems much the same.

I had enough trouble with Beast Machines. Toys should look good in both modes, transform fairly quickly, and have articulation.

I like some of the Beast Machines designs, like Thrust, but others had bits that didn't stay in place and the extremely thin beasts were unnatural. I liked Beast Wars, but most toys should be either vehicles or reasonably proportioned beasts. Beast Machines toys had good articulation, but were often difficult to transform and some of them were difficult to relate to.

Dragonoth wrote:I had enough trouble with Beast Machines. Toys should look good in both modes, transform fairly quickly, and have articulation.

I like some of the Beast Machines designs, like Thrust, but others had bits that didn't stay in place and the extremely thin beasts were unnatural. I liked Beast Wars, but most toys should be either vehicles or reasonably proportioned beasts. Beast Machines toys had good articulation, but were often difficult to transform and some of them were difficult to relate to.

I see your point.. I was kinda just satisfied with the whole Optimal Optimus thing in BW versus the whole alternate realty BM thing...

Sheogorath wrote:

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

The later Beast Machines weren't all that bad. Neither were about half of the earlier ones. The biggest problems the line had when it came to sales were the bizarre scaling, the crappy little sub-line that got repainted even while the originals sat on the shelves, and the lack of accuracy to the cartoon that the smaller figures had. If they hadn't screwed-around and tampered with the line to cater to play-testing data (which lead them to believe ginormous Cheetors and Nightscreams and Deployers would be good ideas) it might not have been killed prematurely.

The vast majority of Beast Machines figures are bizarre and poopy, but there are a few really good ones. Transtech seems much the same.

No air attack Optimus Primal?

You are so mean.

Now that figure is a piece of crap! What the hell were they thinking?!

YouFearGalvatron wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

The later Beast Machines weren't all that bad. Neither were about half of the earlier ones. The biggest problems the line had when it came to sales were the bizarre scaling, the crappy little sub-line that got repainted even while the originals sat on the shelves, and the lack of accuracy to the cartoon that the smaller figures had. If they hadn't screwed-around and tampered with the line to cater to play-testing data (which lead them to believe ginormous Cheetors and Nightscreams and Deployers would be good ideas) it might not have been killed prematurely.

The vast majority of Beast Machines figures are bizarre and poopy, but there are a few really good ones. Transtech seems much the same.

No air attack Optimus Primal?

You are so mean.

Now that figure is a piece of crap! What the hell were they thinking?!

Actually anything over Leader class scale,is definitely too much!! Unless its a masterpiece.. but for a mass market sale, you can get more mileage out of a Leader class, or Voyager class then you can out of Ultra class or higher...Plus more shelf space!!!!

Those mostly all look amazing. Oh man, I hope somoene up top gets the idea to make this into a cartoon!

Jesus christ... these are WAY better than the movie junkola.

With the exception of perhaps Shockwave, all these guys are quickly discernible as to who they are / should be.

Hey Hasbro... if this topic IS about the collection of marketing data, YES. Yes, to produce this line now WOULD be profitably feasible.

We know G1 out our ass, and the movie line's suckiness has got us used to drastic redesigns.

NOW is the time to drop these cool, japanesey sculpts on us!

Now now NOW NOW NOW!

TOUCH THEM! LOVE THEM! LIEBER MEIN AUSCH TRANSTECH!

More Eye Candy!!!


Another Starscream concept from DHJ:Can we say movie Megatron's Altmode!!!


Scavenger Designs:



Another Shockwave concept:

Half page is Shockwave Other half is Immorticon:

Optimus prime:


Another Megatron Concept:


again Cheetor:


The head in the right bottom corner reminds me of Movie bumblebee..


Fan designs:









Some of these fan made designs are not very good, but I gotta say that I love that Warpath and Scourge.. based on the optimus prime figure..

I think Transtech was the aftermath of the whole alternate universe thing, and whre i guess Autobots and Decepticons were in the future or something...




I always thought this guy fits into the transtech image.. its universe Skywarp!!

skywarp-2 wrote:

YouFearGalvatron wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Sheogorath wrote:Concept art always looks 100 times better than the finished product. I can't see this line being any better than Beast Machines honestly. And I'm sure if they ended up making it, all this knob-slobbing will be replaced by a hefty dose of nerd rage.

The later Beast Machines weren't all that bad. Neither were about half of the earlier ones. The biggest problems the line had when it came to sales were the bizarre scaling, the crappy little sub-line that got repainted even while the originals sat on the shelves, and the lack of accuracy to the cartoon that the smaller figures had. If they hadn't screwed-around and tampered with the line to cater to play-testing data (which lead them to believe ginormous Cheetors and Nightscreams and Deployers would be good ideas) it might not have been killed prematurely.

The vast majority of Beast Machines figures are bizarre and poopy, but there are a few really good ones. Transtech seems much the same.

No air attack Optimus Primal?

You are so mean.

Now that figure is a piece of crap! What the hell were they thinking?!

Actually anything over Leader class scale,is definitely too much!! Unless its a masterpiece.. but for a mass market sale, you can get more mileage out of a Leader class, or Voyager class then you can out of Ultra class or higher...Plus more shelf space!!!!

Um, I meant it was an ugly piece of plastic monkey poo. Also, what was up with Optimus Minor? The hits just kept coming with Beast Machines, eh?

Yeah, I want a 20" long Cheetor!!!

*is weeping inside*

Why can't people ever just let go? I mean Transtech had it's shot and missed the boat. It ain't gettin' made, and we ended up getting items that were far better than any of these...abominations... could've given us.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

These posts are like the internet equivalent of holding your breath 'til you get what you want. Problem is, you'd be long past blue and dead from holding your breath this long.

It's over, finished, done.

No Transtech.

...let it die.


Man, were they some ugly mothers...

Autobot032 wrote:*is weeping inside*

Why can't people ever just let go? I mean Transtech had it's shot and missed the boat. It ain't gettin' made, and we ended up getting items that were far better than any of these...abominations... could've given us.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

These posts are like the internet equivalent of holding your breath 'til you get what you want. Problem is, you'd be long past blue and dead from holding your breath this long.

It's over, finished, done.

No Transtech.

...let it die.


Man, were they some ugly mothers...

I agree Autobot032, but some of the designs were intriguing (sp?) while still harking back to who the charachter in question is...i think that is why many, including myself are fascinated with this train the left the station so long ago.

Oh yeah, and I am not wishing that TransTech gets made or anything, I am just interested. It is kind of nice to imagine what might have been.

Like right now, I am wondering what "might have been" if Takara actually got off their collective @$$e$ and did a proper re-issue of Shockwave instead of me having to track one down on ePay, only to find the best example left has a frayed rubber hose/wire assembly, missing battery cover, cracking, fading, etc...all for over $100 before shipping.

Daydreaming happens.

Surely you understand that?

YouFearGalvatron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:*is weeping inside*

Why can't people ever just let go? I mean Transtech had it's shot and missed the boat. It ain't gettin' made, and we ended up getting items that were far better than any of these...abominations... could've given us.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

These posts are like the internet equivalent of holding your breath 'til you get what you want. Problem is, you'd be long past blue and dead from holding your breath this long.

It's over, finished, done.

No Transtech.

...let it die.


Man, were they some ugly mothers...

I agree Autobot032, but some of the designs were intriguing (sp?) while still harking back to who the charachter in question is...i think that is why many, including myself are fascinated with this train the left the station so long ago.

Oh yeah, and I am not wishing that TransTech gets made or anything, I am just interested. It is kind of nice to imagine what might have been.

Like right now, I am wondering what "might have been" if Takara actually got off their collective @$$e$ and did a proper re-issue of Shockwave instead of me having to track one down on ePay, only to find the best example left has a frayed rubber hose/wire assembly, missing battery cover, cracking, fading, etc...all for over $100 before shipping.

Daydreaming happens.

Surely you understand that?

Oh I understand daydreaming just fine. My problem is, a good portion of these daydreamers still believe that the chance of these getting made is a scant possibility. And it isn't.

Hasbro and Takara/Tomy went in a totally different direction once they went with RiD, and then Armada, etc. Transtech was nullified and died on the table right there. No amount of CPR could bring this back from the dead. It's done, it's over.

People are not willing to let it stay dead. That's my problem with this.

Sometimes you just have to realize you've lost the war and move on. Some battles might be won, but if the war is lost...well then, just give it up. Seriously.

The same with G1 fans. You love it, you like it, whatever, that's fine...but it's time to realize that Bay's movie is *NOT* G1, these are not G1 designs, etc.

It's time to call off the crusade and deal with reality.

It's just sad to see grown adults sit here and cry over what they couldn't have, and they don't seem to grasp that it's really over. No matter what they do, no amount of "I wish" will bring it to fruition.

"Wishing something, doesn't make it so." Damn right.

BTW...Takara can't do a reissue of Deluxe Insecticons, Jetfire, Omega Supreme, Roadbuster, Shockwave, Skylynx, Whirl, etc because those molds were all owned by a different company, which is now defunct and all of the rights have gone the way of the Dodo.

Jetfire however is still viable to be made, but only by Bandai. They always owned the rights, and still do. Copyright laws have changed and Takara can no longer get their mitts on Jetfire's mold to create a reissue. (IIRC...Jetfire was an American only G1 figure. It was never made as a TF in Japan...) The closest you can get is to frankenstein two of Bandai's valk molds, do a little repainting, Reprolabels, etc. That's about all you can do to make a reissue Jetfire.