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The two surviving Battlestars (Galactica and Pegasis) vs two Imperial Star Destroyers. Both have a full contingent of fighters and ammo. Who wins?

Destroyers, originals always beat imitations.

*Skin crawls after hearing the word imitation.*
Destroyers.

Destroyers, most definately.

Battle Star Got Nukes. Nukes man!! Destroyer looks Nice but there weapons suck One shot to Obvious Bridge, and poor shielding and the ship is done one more thing Battle Star gots Nukes!!

Phategod1 wrote:Battle Star Got Nukes. Nukes man!! Destroyer looks Nice but there weapons suck One shot to Obvious Bridge, and poor shielding and the ship is done one more thing Battle Star gots Nukes!!

However little I got from that post except OMG we g0tz th3 NUK35! Is all false.

however if someone did modify the Battlestars to Star Wars standards they would kick some righteous arse.

Also it should be noted, that in either continuity, the Pegasus has been destroyed.

I think the galactica would be the weak link in this battle. I reckon the pegasus could handle going toe to toe with a star destroyer but eventually i think it would be 2 v 1 and its would loose out that way. Still in saying that i think the colonies have the better figter wings and this could provide them with a slight edge hmmm tought call for me. Still might side with the empire for now.

AutobotGeneral wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:Battle Star Got Nukes. Nukes man!! Destroyer looks Nice but there weapons suck One shot to Obvious Bridge, and poor shielding and the ship is done one more thing Battle Star gots Nukes!!

However little I got from that post except OMG we g0tz th3 NUK35! Is all false.

however if someone did modify the Battlestars to Star Wars standards they would kick some righteous arse.

Also it should be noted, that in either continuity, the Pegasus has been destroyed.

You obviously don't watch the new show. which is what I believe the OP basing this on. The Galactica Has a Nuclear armament With enough payload to Destroy a planets surface. They also have better Pilots and TIE's blow apart like nobodies Business and unless you want to pull our the EU I haven't seen one Captain, Commander, General, or Admiral with cajones and skill as Odama.

As a straight carrier war, as long as the Colonial Vipers can damage the TIEs, their vastly superior maneuverability gives them an advantage. At least, ship for ship. The massive numbers involved would still pose something of a problem.

Conversely, the ISD isn't going to fall to Viper level weapons. It would likely be a tough nut to crack even for a Nuke equipped ship, especially when remembers how nuclear weapons most likely work in space (High radiation output, lack of shockwave due to lack of air).

So, while the initial fighter skirmishes might go in favour of the colonial fleet, the capital ship level of this battle is relatively one sided. Sadly, it's also the part that matters more.

Phategod1 wrote:

AutobotGeneral wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:Battle Star Got Nukes. Nukes man!! Destroyer looks Nice but there weapons suck One shot to Obvious Bridge, and poor shielding and the ship is done one more thing Battle Star gots Nukes!!

However little I got from that post except OMG we g0tz th3 NUK35! Is all false.

however if someone did modify the Battlestars to Star Wars standards they would kick some righteous arse.

Also it should be noted, that in either continuity, the Pegasus has been destroyed.

You obviously don't watch the new show. which is what I believe the OP basing this on. The Galactica Has a Nuclear armament With enough payload to Destroy a planets surface. They also have better Pilots and TIE's blow apart like nobodies Business and unless you want to pull our the EU I haven't seen one Captain, Commander, General, or Admiral with cajones and skill as Odama.

Actually I DO watch the new show. Its spelled ADAMA! Who furthermore is one man on his own.

An quite frankly I see no reason at ALL that I can't pull out the EU, thank you very much.

Lets see, one turbolaser barrage while galactica is arming its Nukes, BOOM. (plus the fact that they have to have like a 'sequence' just to arm them, then they go all erect (which would most likely take them outside whatever shields they have). Plus Big-Arse nuclear missiles can't be all that hard to shoot down mid-flight.

Oh and while we're talking about it, Star Destroyers have ALWAYS had the capability to destroy a planets surface, without missiles. BDZ ftw.

AutobotGeneral wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:

AutobotGeneral wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:Battle Star Got Nukes. Nukes man!! Destroyer looks Nice but there weapons suck One shot to Obvious Bridge, and poor shielding and the ship is done one more thing Battle Star gots Nukes!!

However little I got from that post except OMG we g0tz th3 NUK35! Is all false.

however if someone did modify the Battlestars to Star Wars standards they would kick some righteous arse.

Also it should be noted, that in either continuity, the Pegasus has been destroyed.

You obviously don't watch the new show. which is what I believe the OP basing this on. The Galactica Has a Nuclear armament With enough payload to Destroy a planets surface. They also have better Pilots and TIE's blow apart like nobodies Business and unless you want to pull our the EU I haven't seen one Captain, Commander, General, or Admiral with cajones and skill as Odama.

Actually I DO watch the new show. Its spelled ADAMA! Who furthermore is one man on his own.

An quite frankly I see no reason at ALL that I can't pull out the EU, thank you very much.

Lets see, one turbolaser barrage while galactica is arming its Nukes, BOOM. (plus the fact that they have to have like a 'sequence' just to arm them, then they go all erect (which would most likely take them outside whatever shields they have). Plus Big-Arse nuclear missiles can't be all that hard to shoot down mid-flight.

Oh and while we're talking about it, Star Destroyers have ALWAYS had the capability to destroy a planets surface, without missiles. BDZ ftw.

why didn't they destroy Hoth? Why Couldn't the Nukes Be armed during a jump? and ADAMA is a better Leader then anyone on a Destroyer, able to come up with Original Battle Tactics. And short of Darth Vader Himself I dont think there is a Pilot capable of Shooting down Lee or Starbuck.

Phategod1 wrote:and ADAMA is a better Leader then anyone on a Destroyer, able to come up with Original Battle Tactics.

Umm... Thrawn?

Phategod1 wrote:why didn't they destroy Hoth? Why Couldn't the Nukes Be armed during a jump? and ADAMA is a better Leader then anyone on a Destroyer, able to come up with Original Battle Tactics. And short of Darth Vader Himself I dont think there is a Pilot capable of Shooting down Lee or Starbuck.

And I paraphrase "There seems to be an energy shield surrounding the sixth planet of the hoth system, it is strong enough to deflect any bombardment".

Unless the Galactica has a planetary shield in there somewhere (which I seriously doubt) its toast.

I wonder if the raptors could make a slight difference in this battle. They could breach into vital areas of the star destroyers and do a bit of damage. Ive not seen evidence the Empire has this ability so im not sure if they could strike back in similar fashion.

Actually they do, modified TIE Bombers made to carry Imperial Marines.

AutobotGeneral wrote:Actually they do, modified TIE Bombers made to carry Imperial Marines.

Cool never heard of those. They do the whole land latch on and cut through thing?

Battlestars, IMO.

First, do you remember how long it took for an ISD to disable a single Corvette in Episode 4? A Battlestar is much bigger...

Second, ISDs have a bridge superstructure which could be damadged by impact (in case the shields are down).

Third, TIE Fighters and Bombers aren't match for Vipers. If ISDs had Interceptors, that'd be another story, of course.

All this considering the leadership being equal, of course. But I believe Thrawn beats Adama as tactician or commander, so it could happen that commanded by Thrawn, ISDs could've minimized their weaknesses and maximized their strong sides...

Elcor wrote:First, do you remember how long it took for an ISD to disable a single Corvette in Episode 4? A Battlestar is much bigger...

Flawed Argument, SW ships are on a different power scale in comparison to a battlestar. Secondly how long do we really know the battle with the Tantive IV lasted? For all we know the ship was taken down by those few shots at the beginning. Oh and they were trying to take those on the ship Alive if possible. If only for interrogation purposes.

And furthermore, the Galactica is 360 meters shorter than an ISD.

Elcor wrote:Second, ISDs have a bridge superstructure which could be damadged by impact (in case the shields are down).

Yeah, have fun getting the shields down first.

Elcor wrote:Third, TIE Fighters and Bombers aren't match for Vipers. If ISDs had Interceptors, that'd be another story, of course.

Umm, they do. Either your source of this tidbit is old or non-canon, its still wrong.

Phategod1 wrote:why didn't they destroy Hoth?

Came out of lightspeed too close to the system? Rebels were alerted to their presence and set-up a planetary shield? Imps had to send in ground forces which pummelled them anyway?

Major plot point, that. o.O

Another factor is knowledge. We know the weakness of a ISD is the shield generator but i take it this fight is out of the blue. How long would it take the colonies to work it out? On the other hand the empire is just gonna pummel the colony ships no matter what.

There are some human-type Cylons on Galactica. Could they be sent to infiltrate the ISDs, I wonder? They might be able to hack ISD systems.