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Caelus wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:Yeah he is. Furman has really stuffed around with everything, TM2 Owl Prowl was supposed to be the real G1 Prowl, but now it seems as though Owl prowl is insane and believes himself to be G1 Prowl, while G1 Prowl is in the Lion segment of Magnaboss...

Confoosing as heck.

What do you suppose Magnaboss Prowl and TM2 Prowl would say to each other if they met up?

"IMPOSTER!!!"
Then both would end up running for cover and continually trying to figure out the best strategy, as each Prowl counters the other one perfectly.

Perhaps Transmetal II Prowl is actually G1 Red Alert, who has unconsciously adopted the identity of someone he knew that sucked marginally less than him.

Then it would make more sense for him to be Hot Rod pretending to be Prowl wouldnt it?

i_amtrunks wrote:

Caelus wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:Yeah he is. Furman has really stuffed around with everything, TM2 Owl Prowl was supposed to be the real G1 Prowl, but now it seems as though Owl prowl is insane and believes himself to be G1 Prowl, while G1 Prowl is in the Lion segment of Magnaboss...

Confoosing as heck.

What do you suppose Magnaboss Prowl and TM2 Prowl would say to each other if they met up?

"IMPOSTER!!!"
Then both would end up running for cover and continually trying to figure out the best strategy, as each Prowl counters the other one perfectly.

Perhaps Transmetal II Prowl is actually G1 Red Alert, who has unconsciously adopted the identity of someone he knew that sucked marginally less than him.

Then it would make more sense for him to be Hot Rod pretending to be Prowl wouldnt it?

I've got a way IDW could fix this and truly please Darth Bombshell at the same time. Both characters are G1 Prowl. Magnaboss Prowl is the Prowl we see in fiction all the time. TMII Prowl is, in fact, Action Master Prowl. All we need is for IDW to print a G1 Sourcebook listing Prowl and Action Master Prowl as separate characters, accompanied by a four-issue mini-series and then presto! No more confusion.

Or maybe lots more confusion and a rather irate DB.

Leonardo wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:

Caelus wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

i_amtrunks wrote:Yeah he is. Furman has really stuffed around with everything, TM2 Owl Prowl was supposed to be the real G1 Prowl, but now it seems as though Owl prowl is insane and believes himself to be G1 Prowl, while G1 Prowl is in the Lion segment of Magnaboss...

Confoosing as heck.

What do you suppose Magnaboss Prowl and TM2 Prowl would say to each other if they met up?

"IMPOSTER!!!"
Then both would end up running for cover and continually trying to figure out the best strategy, as each Prowl counters the other one perfectly.

Perhaps Transmetal II Prowl is actually G1 Red Alert, who has unconsciously adopted the identity of someone he knew that sucked marginally less than him.

Then it would make more sense for him to be Hot Rod pretending to be Prowl wouldnt it?

I've got a way IDW could fix this and truly please Darth Bombshell at the same time. Both characters are G1 Prowl. Magnaboss Prowl is the Prowl we see in fiction all the time. TMII Prowl is, in fact, Action Master Prowl. All we need is for IDW to print a G1 Sourcebook listing Prowl and Action Master Prowl as separate characters, accompanied by a four-issue mini-series and then presto! No more confusion.

Or maybe lots more confusion and a rather irate DB.

How can Prowl be a segment of Magnaboss, cos Magnaboss is just one bot with tree altmodes at the same time, he's like one of them Cons from Headmasters, two vehicle that combine to form one robot, all altmodes have the same consciousness.

Magnaboss is comprised of three individual robots (Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt) that each have their own alt.modes but can combine into a giant robot.

Leonardo wrote:Magnaboss is comprised of three individual robots (Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt) that each have their own alt.modes but can combine into a giant robot.

It didn't look like that in the ascending, or am I reffering to the one made up of Dinosours?

Dead Metal wrote:

Leonardo wrote:Magnaboss is comprised of three individual robots (Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt) that each have their own alt.modes but can combine into a giant robot.

It didn't look like that in the ascending, or am I reffering to the one made up of Dinosours?

You might be thinking of Magmatron. He's one robot that turns into three separate dinosaurs.

Leonardo wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Leonardo wrote:Magnaboss is comprised of three individual robots (Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt) that each have their own alt.modes but can combine into a giant robot.

It didn't look like that in the ascending, or am I reffering to the one made up of Dinosours?

You might be thinking of Magmatron. He's one robot that turns into three separate dinosaurs.

Yea that's the one I was thinking about.
sorry

Dead Metal wrote:Interesting ideas here.
I agree with that he could be Beachcomber, since both were badass once the time for battle had come.

And that with the old comics I don't understand eny of that, never read them.

Blitzwing as Rampage, interesting, they both kind swiched sides there didn't they?

first Blitzwing chose not to be an autobot nor a decipticon. I believe his comment was "some times it's better to be known for ones enemies" and when rodimus offered him a position on the autobots he turned it down. Also the maximals created him trying to duplicte star scrams immortal spark SO I'VE BEEN TOLD so people don't go quoting me.

The fallen wasnt in cartoons so he has no continuity to the cartoon story lines. if any thing i would turantulas was more on the lines of shrapnel then waspinator, both get inventors for the enemies side nd both workers for unicron as we remember shrapnel was turned into cyclonus in the movie. So that makes more sense.

Rhinox as wheel jack hell no he dosnt even look anything like him or any of his traights to try and make new weapons that some how blow up in his face. Plus the simple fact that wheeljack had speed over armor. Mho is he is more of a reincarnation of rather ratchet or first aid.

i agree on inferno and silverbolt though

BUT i believe that blackarachnia is or was arcee.

the prowl and silverbolt and magnaboss theory of mine is
The maximals split there sparks into 2 just like the autobots did in the past with side swipe and sunstreaker and same with star scream and sun storm, Yet cause the spark had already lived it had its own personality so there was no way in telling one bot he actually was prowl and the other not they maximals thought it would bea easier to just say yeah your both named prowl get over it same with you silverbolts.

Also teh reason why i say rhinox was more then likely ratchet was also cause ironhide was the elephant mkes sense to me. Both big animals tough armor, both g1 characters had tough armor, and both had speed. Elephant ironhide being more stronger then the rhino so yeah and aswell that ratchet had all types of cutting devices inside himself when fixing autobots and well whats wrapped around rhinox's gun a blade so yeah.

Why do you believe that Blackarachnia was Arcee?

black arachnia was originally a maximal protoform, she is a fantastic shooter and also has a thing for the knight type of roled characteres also she fell in love with a fuzor basically robot, land and air(pitty silverbolt wasn't springer or recalled him)

Arcee, autobot, one of the BEST female autobot shooters, also has a thing for the knight type of roles and fell in love wit ha triple changer.

Yes there are triple changers in beast wars and silver bolt was a protoform when the transwarp signal was screwing up most of the characters circuits. I believe that if he was NOT protoform he would of been a triple changer and there for more then likely could of been some how a wolf that could fly or something. OR a bird that had land vehicle form?

Who did Arcee fall in love with?

SPRINGER. Her love was dor springer you can clearly see that in five faces of darkness when she is more over whelmed that springer is alive the rodimus basically.

To be honest, even with reading between the lines, I never really considered her to be in love with him but I haven't seen the episode in a while. You might be right.

have another watch of it my mone ysays when a chick puts there hands on you like she does when she sees hes alive on the junkion shipwhen wreck gar saves him thats how a chick who loves ya puts there hands on ya after you've been through hell and back.

I'll watch it at some point soon and keep an eye out.

while we are on the topic of who became who people,

is it just me or could one look at armada/energon/cybertron megatron as being a decepticon take on bw/bm/rid megatron

one perhaps being an alternate reality version of the other, or perhaps one haveing been reincarnated from the other.

whats your thoughts?

me i figure when it comes to rid megatron he is basicly an enhanced clone of bw/bm megatron with him having bw/bm megatrons ambition, hunger for power and drive to succeed at any cost though perhaps not actually having bw/bm megaton's spark. that is to say that as an enhanced clone of bw/bm megatron he could possibly have a preserved copy of bw/bm megatrons mind but perhaps with rid megatron not posessing to his person bw/bm megatron actual spark in the true ressurected /reincarnated sense people.

you know like how the joker used a preserved copy of his living mind to convince the tim drake joker clone that it was literally the original joker.

Come on, I think we all know how the Prowl/Prowl exchange would go.

Magnaboss Prowl: "I'm the real Prowl!"
Transmetal 2 Prowl: "O, Rly?"

*Runs from barrage of Tomatoes*

Damolisher wrote:Come on, I think we all know how the Prowl/Prowl exchange would go.

Magnaboss Prowl: "I'm the real Prowl!"
Transmetal 2 Prowl: "O, Rly?"

*Runs from barrage of Tomatoes*

OMGosh, Damolisher made me lol.

i_amtrunks wrote:

Damolisher wrote:Silverbolt is part of Magnaboss? Where did you find that out? I didn't notice anything on his tech spec saying he was. Plus Transmetal 2 Prowl is G1 Prowl, according to his Tech Spec. OH, wait, is Magnaboss covered in Sourcebook 2?

Yeah he is. Furman has really stuffed around with everything, TM2 Owl Prowl was supposed to be the real G1 Prowl, but now it seems as though Owl prowl is insane and believes himself to be G1 Prowl, while G1 Prowl is in the Lion segment of Magnaboss...

Confoosing as heck.

See this is why I can only take Furman to seriously, he over complicates things by trying to unify to many things, then when things get to muddled, he pulls out the "ALTERNATE UNIVERSE CARD"

Yes, there are figures with shared names. Some names are passed around like to much, but that realy shouldn't mean anything

Take real life, there are alot of Daves, Jims, Jens, and so on throught all of history, but that don't mean they're all the same person!?!

As for the topic, of who could have been who, great idea! But outside of Primal admitting he was a decent of Prime, and RatTrap mentioning his Great Aunt Arcee. It's just fun speculation

Also G1 Prowl being that stupid owl, or Leo Convoy Jr, are just 2 horrific ideas that I don't want to accept. So I won't.

Yo, but hold on, the thing about Owl Prowl being G1 Prowl was written on his Tech Spec, so official, Owl Prowl IS G1 Prowl.

Damolisher wrote:Yo, but hold on, the thing about Owl Prowl being G1 Prowl was written on his Tech Spec, so official, Owl Prowl IS G1 Prowl.

Well, they don't officially state that they are one and the same. It's just heavily implied by the fact that Owl Prowl's bio quotes a lot of G1 Prowl's bio.

Damolisher wrote:Yo, but hold on, the thing about Owl Prowl being G1 Prowl was written on his Tech Spec, so official, Owl Prowl IS G1 Prowl.

well that proves that then owl prowl IS g1 prowl.

Saber_Wulf wrote:

Damolisher wrote:Yo, but hold on, the thing about Owl Prowl being G1 Prowl was written on his Tech Spec, so official, Owl Prowl IS G1 Prowl.

well that proves that then owl prowl IS g1 prowl.

But... Leonardo already wrote:Well, they don't officially state that they are one and the same. It's just heavily implied by the fact that Owl Prowl's bio quotes a lot of G1 Prowl's bio.

I think Leo is write here... Prowl the TM Owl bio says he "Believes himself to have been a great military strategist in a former life." he acts soo much like him that he thinks he is him...

for the non clickie types...

TM Owl Prowl Bio wrote:Prowl strives to find logic and reason in everything. A listener, not a talker. Has most sophisticated logic center of the Maximals. Able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously. Fires highly corrosive acid pellets. Cybernetic eye and frontal lobe interact with wing-mounted ion orbs, supplying limited telekinetic power. Afflicted with ironic, dry sense of humor. Believes himself to have been a great military strategist in a former life.

For further analysis here is G1 Prowls short listed info...

G1 Prowl TECH SPEC BIO wrote:Prowl will keep at a task for as long as it takes. Strives to find reason and logic in everything. A listener, not a talker. Has most sophisticated logic center of all Autobots. Able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously. Fires wire-guided missiles and high-corrosive acid pellets. The unexpected can often scramble his circuits.

AxiomScion wrote:

Saber_Wulf wrote:

Damolisher wrote:Yo, but hold on, the thing about Owl Prowl being G1 Prowl was written on his Tech Spec, so official, Owl Prowl IS G1 Prowl.

well that proves that then owl prowl IS g1 prowl.

But... Leonardo already wrote:Well, they don't officially state that they are one and the same. It's just heavily implied by the fact that Owl Prowl's bio quotes a lot of G1 Prowl's bio.

I think Leo is write here... Prowl the TM Owl bio says he "Believes himself to have been a great military strategist in a former life." he acts soo much like him that he thinks he is him...

for the non clickie types...

TM Owl Prowl Bio wrote:Prowl strives to find logic and reason in everything. A listener, not a talker. Has most sophisticated logic center of the Maximals. Able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously. Fires highly corrosive acid pellets. Cybernetic eye and frontal lobe interact with wing-mounted ion orbs, supplying limited telekinetic power. Afflicted with ironic, dry sense of humor. Believes himself to have been a great military strategist in a former life.

For further analysis here is G1 Prowls short listed info...

G1 Prowl TECH SPEC BIO wrote:Prowl will keep at a task for as long as it takes. Strives to find reason and logic in everything. A listener, not a talker. Has most sophisticated logic center of all Autobots. Able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously. Fires wire-guided missiles and high-corrosive acid pellets. The unexpected can often scramble his circuits.

good hunting there. Yes it kinda proves he wasn't you do have some good points there. Maybe prowl changed his ways and was remade into the lion prowl. Who knows, that bio reminded me of a fight that would happend g1 prowl against some one else here or ozformers. They tried to tell me prowl could take on any unexpected battle but i kept trying to tell them no if some thing unexpected happens prowl panics like he did in teh movie and he died and your bio find there proves tht point "The unexpected can often scramble his circuits"

Savage wrote:Heck, Silverbolt could have come from Silverbolt. Both flyers. Both very moral, upstanding, good soldiers. Sure, BW Silverbolt was a little more obsessed with honor and chivalry, but G1 Silverbolt still had those qualities and showed them plenty, though he give monologues about it.

BW Silverbolt was "obsessed with honor and chivalry" because, like Quickstrike, his Beast Mode was more dominant. And speaking of which, it also kinda explains why he was so different in BM.