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News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:10 pm

Clones I mean.

In Black Rodimus's bio it says he is one out of a group clones of young up and coming Autobot commanders.

Who are the others?

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:17 pm

black rodiums????
care to explain this to me as im not sure what you on about.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:55 pm

He was an E-Hobby Exclusive.

http://tfu.info/2001/Autobot/HotRodBlack/hotrod.htm

and for amusement, my recolor of Roddy into BR...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47960885/

It seems like a really neat concept.

by **Stormshadow** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:13 pm

Sound's interesting I'd be curious as to what people could make of it; though no I've never heard of him.

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:26 pm

nemesis prime is a clone

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:27 pm

I do believe the others were the black repaint minibots

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:41 pm

japan loves black repaints. theres been black versions of many transformers, usualy sold as ehobby exclusives these days

black starscream
black RM starscream
black RM beast convoy
black lucky draw energon galvatron
black lucky draw bm cheetor
umpteen thousand black primes
list goes on and on
oh, there was a black energon rodimus too.

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:17 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:He was an E-Hobby Exclusive.

http://tfu.info/2001/Autobot/HotRodBlack/hotrod.htm

and for amusement, my recolor of Roddy into BR...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47960885/

It seems like a really neat concept.

ahhhh i didnt realise there was a background for him, i knew of the figure though, hmmmm dunno about which other ones are clones though, are we talking all the e hobby repaints or which particular repaints?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:24 pm

There were a big amount of black repaints of popular characters, mostly exclusives but some are Lucky Draw. Only a handfull of them were outfitted with a bio, and they weren't always depicted as clones. In fact, the only black clones I know of are:

- Black Hot Rodimus
- Black Lioconvoy
- A-Nemesis Prime / STD Scourge

The rest of the black repaints were just that, black versions of the original characters.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:28 pm

I'm not talking about just black repaints.

I'm talking about the other clones they talk about in Black Rodimus's bio.

It says that the Decepticon's cloned the top young Autobot commanders.

by **Uncrazzimatic** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:16 am

It might be that they are only mentioned in the bio, and that no figures exist of these other clones. STD Scourge?

do I want to know?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:04 pm

Unchrasimatic wrote:It might be that they are only mentioned in the bio, and that no figures exist of these other clones. STD Scourge? do I want to know?

STD stands for "Standard" in this case (aka "Deluxe"). It's from the name "STD Convoy", the Japanese name of Supercon Optimus Prime aka Bendy Prime. I'm well aware of the other meaning, mind you

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:52 pm

well, the black e-hobby and JAFCON repaints could also be part of the series. With them including:

Hot Rod
Optimus Prime
Windcharger
Brawn
Cliffjumper
Bumblebee
Magnificus (maybe)

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:56 pm

im loving the idea of brawn being classed as a up and coming commander!

"were under attack by hundreds of 'cons brawnus prime! what are we going to do?!"

"lets go punch them till they drop, ummmm after that.... i dunno"

plus if your were an autobot would you follow someone who dies when then get shot once, in the shoulder??

by **Uncrazzimatic** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:15 pm

DARKAGEIS wrote:im loving the idea of brawn being classed as a up and coming commander!

"were under attack by hundreds of 'cons brawnus prime! what are we going to do?!"

"lets go punch them till they drop, ummmm after that.... i dunno"

plus if your were an autobot would you follow someone who dies when then get shot once, in the shoulder??

Brawns not dead!

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:17 pm

Unchrasimatic wrote:
DARKAGEIS wrote:im loving the idea of brawn being classed as a up and coming commander!

"were under attack by hundreds of 'cons brawnus prime! what are we going to do?!"

"lets go punch them till they drop, ummmm after that.... i dunno"

plus if your were an autobot would you follow someone who dies when then get shot once, in the shoulder??

Brawns not dead!

sorry dude, but.......

News Credits: 3 · by **proximus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:46 pm

DARKAGEIS wrote:
Unchrasimatic wrote:
DARKAGEIS wrote:im loving the idea of brawn being classed as a up and coming commander!

"were under attack by hundreds of 'cons brawnus prime! what are we going to do?!"

"lets go punch them till they drop, ummmm after that.... i dunno"

plus if your were an autobot would you follow someone who dies when then get shot once, in the shoulder??

Brawns not dead!

sorry dude, but.......

But what...? *cough cough* Carnage in C Minor* Cough cough*...

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:49 pm

proximus wrote:
DARKAGEIS wrote:
Unchrasimatic wrote:
DARKAGEIS wrote:im loving the idea of brawn being classed as a up and coming commander!

"were under attack by hundreds of 'cons brawnus prime! what are we going to do?!"

"lets go punch them till they drop, ummmm after that.... i dunno"

plus if your were an autobot would you follow someone who dies when then get shot once, in the shoulder??

Brawns not dead!

sorry dude, but.......

But what...? *cough cough* Carnage in C Minor* Cough cough*...

really, i should really watch that episode, i tried to but the singing voices....... uuurrggh.

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:55 pm

ok just watched the first few mins on you tube and lo and behold there he is.

though in my defence, devastator is shown beside soundwave and the same size, all before merging, so what im trying to say is, maybe the animation guys werent exactly checking there work.

News Credits: 3 · by **proximus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:17 pm

Yeah, aside from being the most annoying episode ever, it's ROUGHT with animation errors. If Brawn isn't dead, then your hearing certainly will be after that episode.

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:46 am

proximus wrote:Yeah, aside from being the most annoying episode ever, it's ROUGHT with animation errors. If Brawn isn't dead, then your hearing certainly will be after that episode.

ohh how i tried to watch that ep, but no!!!

think its the only one i havent seen now.

by **Uncrazzimatic** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:23 pm

DARKAGEIS wrote:
proximus wrote:Yeah, aside from being the most annoying episode ever, it's ROUGHT with animation errors. If Brawn isn't dead, then your hearing certainly will be after that episode.

ohh how i tried to watch that ep, but no!!!

think its the only one i havent seen now.

I've watched it twice, the second time was just to see if it was as bad as I remembered. It was.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:54 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:I'm not talking about just black repaints.

I'm talking about the other clones they talk about in Black Rodimus's bio.

It says that the Decepticon's cloned the top young Autobot commanders.

Assuming we're just talking speculation and not actual toys?

I'd say Grimlock, Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Springer, Bumblebee, Blaster, and Jazz are all possibilities.