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answer this how are they going bring in the consrtucicons in part 2 when they made bonecrusher an army vehicle instead of a construction vehicle

Bonecrusher most likely won't be returning after he met the sharp end of Prime's sword

megamusprime wrote::? answer this how are they going bring in the consrtucicons in part 2 when they made bonecrusher an army vehicle instead of a construction vehicle

1. Don't bring in the constructicons.

2. Call Bonecrusher something else.

And Devastator needs a new name too

either that or they have to edit the subtitles for the dvd of TF1, when Devastator reports to Starscream. Make him officially Brawl again

Yeah it was really dissapointing that Bonecrusher was that easy defeated...

megamusprime wrote::? answer this how are they going bring in the consrtucicons in part 2 when they made bonecrusher an army vehicle instead of a construction vehicle

bumblebee changed his alt in the movie, who says Bonecrusher can't do the same.

Xion wrote:Yeah it was really dissapointing that Bonecrusher was that easy defeated...

True, but we're talking Optimus Prime here;)

Tammuz wrote:

megamusprime wrote::? answer this how are they going bring in the consrtucicons in part 2 when they made bonecrusher an army vehicle instead of a construction vehicle

bumblebee changed his alt in the movie, who says Bonecrusher can't do the same.

Basically...cos hes dead!

megamusprime wrote::? answer this how are they going bring in the consrtucicons in part 2 when they made bonecrusher an army vehicle instead of a construction vehicle

Answer: Don't have six Constructicons.

That's probably the most likely. Much easier to engineer the toy with only 5 figures too.

Though I think dead is a bit extreme. Being decapitated didn't stop Frenzy. So why should it stop Bonecrusher? Megs will probably find a way to come back after his supposed death. Heck even Jazz might find a way to come back for the sequel. Nothing says any of the supposed dead fate is finale.

Koloth wrote:That's probably the most likely. Much easier to engineer the toy with only 5 figures too.

Though I think dead is a bit extreme. Being decapitated didn't stop Frenzy. So why should it stop Bonecrusher? Megs will probably find a way to come back after his supposed death. Heck even Jazz might find a way to come back for the sequel. Nothing says any of the supposed dead fate is finale.

But there is a difference between losing a head and sustaining massive damage to the head. Frenzy lost his head, but it was generally undamaged until he sliced half of it off to kill himself at the end of the movie. Bonecrusher had a giant knife shoved all the way through the his head before having it ripped off.

I think Megatron would be the only plausible one to come back (and even that isn't guaranteed), because if they just keep bringing characters back from the dead then death has no meaning in the movies.

Why does death have to have meaning? Eh I doubt Bonecrusher will be back and I'm almost certain there will only be 5 Constructicons if there is one. But nothing says any character has to stay dead for any reason. Maybe if Megs returns he will use Bonecrushers body and supposedly his spark to create part of Devastator. Who knows.

Though I love the Constructicons, Bonecrusher is a better name for a military type Con. Besides, there are a bunch of Constructicon names they could go to the well with for the next movie.

I wouldn't be horribly surprised if they made Devastator just one really big bot. Maybe he will have to be activated by a number of smaller robots but I just don't see combiners fitting in to this new TF movie stuff.

ghostofstarscream wrote:I wouldn't be horribly surprised if they made Devastator just one really big bot. Maybe he will have to be activated by a number of smaller robots but I just don't see combiners fitting in to this new TF movie stuff.

ye i kinda see that as well. it wouldnt seem right having them combine..but i would love it cuz it would look so amazing.

The Paragon of Virtue wrote:

Koloth wrote:That's probably the most likely. Much easier to engineer the toy with only 5 figures too.

Though I think dead is a bit extreme. Being decapitated didn't stop Frenzy. So why should it stop Bonecrusher? Megs will probably find a way to come back after his supposed death. Heck even Jazz might find a way to come back for the sequel. Nothing says any of the supposed dead fate is finale.

But there is a difference between losing a head and sustaining massive damage to the head. Frenzy lost his head, but it was generally undamaged until he sliced half of it off to kill himself at the end of the movie. Bonecrusher had a giant knife shoved all the way through the his head before having it ripped off.

I think Megatron would be the only plausible one to come back (and even that isn't guaranteed), because if they just keep bringing characters back from the dead then death has no meaning in the movies.

Yup, frenzy was separated by the neck, but his "brain" was undamaged. Bonecrusher, on the other hand...well..he got PWND!

I think you'll see a combiner in the second movie, but since Devastator was half-way used, I think you'll see it be Menasor or Bruticus. Definitely a Decepticon, though.

DorkimusPrime wrote:I think you'll see a combiner in the second movie, but since Devastator was half-way used, I think you'll see it be Menasor or Bruticus. Definitely a Decepticon, though.

Bay admitted that the use of Devastator was a mistake - it should have been Brawl. The only time Devestator is refered to on screen is in cybertronian-->english subtitles and so it would be relatively easy to fix. I have been told that it will be fixed for the DVD release.

I've heard all sorts of things that Bay said or didn't say regarding Devastator and they range wildly from "it was on purpose" to "it was a goof-up and will be fixed for the DVD" and I've heard both from several people...are there any links to back up either side? I've been all over michaelbay.com and can't find anything (or if it's there, maybe not quite "all over") other than this which is up for debate as to what he means. He either means that Devastator isn't a combiner, or he means the name Devastator was used by mistake.

this article makes it sound like the former - that Devastator was in the movie but it wasn't ever meant to be the Constructicons.

Steve found a tank (based on the M1 Abrams) to use for Devastator® that had already been retrofitted for another movie. “It was a marriage of convenience,” says Jeff Mann. “We modified it again and came up with a cool paint job, non-radar detectable, based on some camouflage that was being used on a futuristic battleship we researched.

Soooooo...to me it sounds like even he doesn't know.

HAsbro said that the name "Devastator" was used by mistake. Here is the article in which they said it:http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=10997&f_start=20&f_cat=&f_year=2007&f_keyword=BotCon it's near the bottom of the article.

Why does Devastator need to be made of bots with the same names as in G1?

Can't Bonecrusher just be Bonecrusher? An independant robot not affiliated with the Constructicons, it's happened before (Silverbolt, Razorclaw, Rampage etc...)

Remember: Movie = New Universe.