The Energon Pub

YoungPrime wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Meh, robot mode still flawed. We need a Scorponok made in the Generations line.

Exactly! A new Leader Class Generations Scorpinok could rival last years Metroplex.

So disappointing that the masses are hardwired to spend ridiculous prices for any repainted bone Botcon throws at them.

I'll just stick with my G1 original till Hasbro get's their act together.

I basically agree with this sentiment. I will say this Botcon Scorponok looks great, and I give FunPub props for going the extra mile with the Headmaster. BUT, and this is a big but, Energon Scorponok (like many Unicron Trilogy molds) is greatly lacking in the articulation department.

Who knows. Maybe Hasbro will pull a Scourge and release a new mold in a couple years.

megatronus wrote:Who knows. Maybe Hasbro will pull a Scourge and release a new mold in a couple years.

That's what I'm hoping for. Maybe the demand for this figure will show Hasbro that there is a large enough market for a large scale mass released Scorponok figure.

I'd really like to see Olin Zarak plugged into G1 Scorponok just for fun.

megatronus wrote:

shajaki wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:A new Leader Class Generations Scorpinok could rival last years Metroplex.

nawww... if they made another metroplex sized transformer, id want it to be trypticon. im ok with a smaller scorponok.

He said Leader Class, not Titan.

Leader Class would be perfect for Scorponok. It would make more sense than Leader Class Megatron, at any rate. That guy desperately needs an updated voyager...

my bad. all i must have just focused on the "metroplex" when i read that...

I don't understand why we cant just have all three modes sent out at one time.

Maybe it just takes them that long to transform the toys?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't understand why we cant just have all three modes sent out at one time.

Maybe it just takes them that long to transform the toys?

Wouldn't surprise me. Seriously.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Obviously not, otherwise I probably wouldn't be making false statements. I was going to, but I picked up LSoTW 1st, and its total suckage eliminated whatever little interest I had in it. This coming after an attempt at both Maximum Dinobots and AHM, which were also utterly sub-par, IMO. 3 strikes, iDW is out. Too bad, I heard Rodimus and the story with the Lost Light was actually pretty good. As is psychopath Arcee. Or are those from RiD?

Yes the entire Lost Light plot is MtMtE, but if you seriously didn't enjoy Maximum Dinobots or LSoTW, I'd say don't bother. I have no idea what your tastes are, but you've pretty much seen both the best and the worst of what IDW has to offer. Though I'd say many still hold Furman's work as the best part of the series.

Personally I've never read any Marvel UK. But in short span of time many of the characters were given, I grew to like them more than the entirety of old cast in the rest of the series. Though to me, that may be because I'm tired of the guys who constantly get the spotlight in other media.

I hate Optimus, Megatron and Bumblebee. There I said it.
This is a serious spoiler so stop if you actually change your mind and wanna read more IDW. I find it funny that one of my favorite characters is somewhat responsible for making Megatron into an evil dictator.

Vicalliose wrote:Yes the entire Lost Light plot is MtMtE, but if you seriously didn't enjoy Maximum Dinobots or LSoTW, I'd say don't bother. I have no idea what your tastes are, but you've pretty much seen both the best and the worst of what IDW has to offer. Though I'd say many still hold Furman's work as the best part of the series.

I had the same problem with them as ReGeneration. No real substance. No characters I had been invested in. Before Maximum Dinobots (the TPB which I own), the last TF I read were the DW issues, either the G1, WW or Armada, whichever was issued the latest. I stopped with Energon, because the 1st 3 issues sucked. I missed anything and everything until 2010. Then I bought Maximum Dinobots, because I thought "Grimlock + Scorponok + Furman = WIN" and I was soooo disappointed. That was my 1st clue to Furman's downward spiral in churning out quality stories. Not sure if he wrote any of AHM, but I gave that a shot and it was just lame. Maybe I missed some stuff beforehand, I don't know. And LSotW was the last straw.

Anyway, back to BotCon and Scorponok, which is the actual topic here.

I am still curious about the final figure of the set. I hope it's a Voyager, since it's a Knight. Also, I agree with Seibertron, I would like to see Olin on the original G1 Scorponok, just to see how it looks. It's probably still too small, as it's basically a repainted Spike.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:Yes the entire Lost Light plot is MtMtE, but if you seriously didn't enjoy Maximum Dinobots or LSoTW, I'd say don't bother. I have no idea what your tastes are, but you've pretty much seen both the best and the worst of what IDW has to offer. Though I'd say many still hold Furman's work as the best part of the series.

I had the same problem with them as ReGeneration. No real substance. No characters I had been invested in. Before Maximum Dinobots (the TPB which I own), the last TF I read were the DW issues, either the G1, WW or Armada, whichever was issued the latest. I stopped with Energon, because the 1st 3 issues sucked. I missed anything and everything until 2010. Then I bought Maximum Dinobots, because I thought "Grimlock + Scorponok + Furman = WIN" and I was soooo disappointed. That was my 1st clue to Furman's downward spiral in churning out quality stories. Not sure if he wrote any of AHM, but I gave that a shot and it was just lame. Maybe I missed some stuff beforehand, I don't know. And LSotW was the last straw.

The derailment continues!

It sounds like you and I have similar tastes in comics. I wasn't a fan of LSOTW either so it's nice to see someone else say it outloud since we seem to be in the minority. There's something missing in IDW's Transformers comics. There's a variety of problems that I have with them but it doesn't seem like there's any way to change the formula that they're using unfortunately. The Spotlights have been some of my favorites and that's been about it. I've been warming up to More Than Meets The Eye's Lost Light crew up until the Dark Cybertron crossover event which put me back into an uncaring state about the storyline. I liked Robots in Disguise up until Starscream took over.

I digress no more!

One of the reasons this figure is a must have for me is because I have Universe Onslaught with the Headrobots Stronghold set along with the Cerebros head and Perfect Effect sword. So now I will have an Ultra scale Fort Max and Scorponok for my classics shelves. I try to think of them as the character reincarnated in neo fashion.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't understand why we cant just have all three modes sent out at one time.

Maybe it just takes them that long to transform the toys?

Wouldn't surprise me. Seriously.

I wouldnt doubt it. Brian Savage and the Funpub staff dont exactly look like TF or GI Joe collectors. They appear to be just a promotions group that is just cashing in on Hasbro conventions. Maybe some of them are fans, but I doubt they are skilled at transforming the figures.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't understand why we cant just have all three modes sent out at one time.

Maybe it just takes them that long to transform the toys?

Wouldn't surprise me. Seriously.

I wouldnt doubt it. Brian Savage and the Funpub staff dont exactly look like TF or GI Joe collectors. They appear to be just a promotions group that is just cashing in on Hasbro conventions. Maybe some of them are fans, but I doubt they are skilled at transforming the figures.

Rated X wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't understand why we cant just have all three modes sent out at one time.

Maybe it just takes them that long to transform the toys?

Wouldn't surprise me. Seriously.

I wouldnt doubt it. Brian Savage and the Funpub staff dont exactly look like TF or GI Joe collectors. They appear to be just a promotions group that is just cashing in on Hasbro conventions. Maybe some of them are fans, but I doubt they are skilled at transforming the figures.

They probably don't sit around the office fiddling with them if that's what you mean. In 2011, I attended BotCon, and during the Hall of Fame I sat directly behind Brian Savage and Aaron Archer when Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg were inducted. (Met Bay and Tyrese, as well as Peter Cullen, out of a signing line ) I managed a few words with Brian, and he seemed to be knowledgeable of the toys, not just the business and convention side of things. Doesn't make him a toy fan, though I guess. But he's not a total idiot toward the toys facet of the TF world.

And Seibertron, one last word regarding the comics. You said the new iDW stuff seems to be missing something compared to older stuff. I agree, and I can't quite put my finger on it either. It's like there's no love or heart from the writers in the story. The art is mostly very good, making the visual experience wonderful, but the intellectual side suffers. I say this only half-joking, but I think the difference may also be that we look at these comics with 30-35-year-old eyes instead of with the 5-10-year-old eyes we viewed the G1 Marvel stuff way back when. Though, even now I get a better read from Marvel G1 (even after literally hundreds of reads) than the newer stuff.

Sorry to continue this derailment - the intangible thing to me that effects everything IDW have done is....

... its not a kids comic.

There. I said it. The original G1 issues were very kid-friendly with vibrant, easy to follow plots with characters that didn't need several issues explaining a deep psychology.

IDW stuff reads like 2000ADs "ABC Warriors", which is fine and dandy - but its not what I necessarily want from my Transformers.

Back on topic...

I'm still laying a hope the other guy is Fortress Maximus, utilizing a mold thats good enough, but not perfect. I could see Cybertron Metroplex being nice for that, with the stupid buzzsaw blade and swoop taken away for a big gun.

You guys are nuts, the idw stuff is sweet, and I've read both old marvel and newer a stuff. I'm glad it isn't a kids comic. I could stoop to the level of some posters and pretty much go off on how the franchise needs to evolve, yada yada, (the same argument applied to the movies), But I'm not, coz compared to any animated or live action crap, the comics, both pre idw and new, are miles above. Leader scorponok would be sweet.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:I had (this) problem with ...ReGeneration(;) No real substance. No characters I had been invested in. Before Maximum Dinobots (the TPB which I own), the last TF I read were the DW issues, either the G1, WW or Armada, whichever was issued the latest. I stopped with Energon, because the 1st 3 issues sucked. I missed anything and everything until 2010. Then I bought Maximum Dinobots, because I thought "Grimlock + Scorponok + Furman = WIN" and I was soooo disappointed. That was my 1st clue to Furman's downward spiral in churning out quality stories. Not sure if he wrote any of AHM, but I gave that a shot and it was just lame. Maybe I missed some stuff beforehand, I don't know. And LSotW was the last straw.

Anyway, back to BotCon and Scorponok, which is the actual topic here.

I am still curious about the final figure of the set. I hope it's a Voyager, since it's a Knight. Also, I agree with Seibertron, I would like to see Olin on the original G1 Scorponok, just to see how it looks. It's probably still too small, as it's basically a repainted Spike.

See, THIS is how you dislike something. With a thoughtful and truthful opinion.

And now back to your regularly scheduled news discussions.

If the 5th figure is Metrotitan. I will totally lose my sh**.

YoungPrime wrote:I'll just stick with my G1 original till Hasbro get's their act together.

Lad, that's gonna be a long wait for a train that wont ever come.

He could crouch in the box

RiddlerJ wrote:If the 5th figure is Metrotitan. I will totally lose my sh**.

The last figure will be a Knight. A good guy. Fort Max in maybe Energon Omega Supreme's mold or something. That would be cool. But, then the box would need to be huge. Unless he is a supplemental figure. Or the attendee exclusive.

Sabrblade wrote:You guys do realize that these five figures have to fit inside a single box that stays mostly the same size every year, right?

Cybertron Metroplex or Titan Metroplex mold suggestions would be outrageous.

They did say they struggled to fit them all in the new box, right?

Devcon, Cannonball and Ferak are hardly using large Deluxes, Scorponok can actually be quite compact, as can Cybertron Metroplex, though I do agree hes a little too large - which is why I earlier pointed at Scattorshot Voyager being a good figure.

Sorry to derail the derailment, but how much do you guys think a loose set of the core five botcon figures would sell for?

I'm interested, but still deciding what to do. One of the big things keeping me from jumping on this set is the 2 foot tall Scorponok coming out pretty much the same time as the fun pub version. If I bought both the botcon boxed set and and the giant scorpy, I'm like at about $1K in scorponok toys this summer. That's no small amount of money, even for the most die hard scorponok fans.

did I miss some announcement of a 2-foot reissue or new Hasbro Scorponok?