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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:29 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Wait till you guys get a load of the boxed set bios. One of them has implications in it that could potentially make a few heads spin!

Though, maybe not in a good way, depending on how ya'll feel about... well... uh... I'll get into more about this once the at-show staff posts pics of the bios (which I presume they will).

Talk about leaving us all hanging :MAXIMAL:


Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.

Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby dragons » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:50 am

Not fan of those FIGURES being repainted into non beast wars
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby bluecatcinema » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:08 am

"Flash Sentry"? What's next, Sunset Shimmer?
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:20 am

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Man, I'm actually pretty annoyed about this set.

>Finally get an official, 3-part combining Reflector
>It's a con exclusive


And don't even get me started on the MLP reference.

On the plus side, 3H Megatron is awesome. Please, Funpub, don't f*ck up the headsculpt.
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby wordmongerer » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:52 am

william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.



Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Va'al » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:34 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).


It's also utterly rubbish.
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sigma Magnus » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:37 am

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Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).


It's also utterly rubbish.

Oh?...any pictures?
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:39 am

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Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).


It's also utterly rubbish.


What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Va'al » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:41 am

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wordmongerer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.



Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.


Also, Will, please don't spoil the comic for people who plan on reading it at a later stage. :)

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Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).


It's also utterly rubbish.


What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine :BANG_HEAD:


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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:44 am

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Dr Va'al wrote:
wordmongerer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.



Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.


Also, Will, please don't spoil the comic for people who plan on reading it at a later stage. :)

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Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!


You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).


It's also utterly rubbish.


What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine :BANG_HEAD:


No images until we have the green light from FunPub. Galleries will be ready and live later today.


Blargh, too long! :-P

Well, if the camera mode is rubbish, it's a good thing I had planned on displaying them in their robot modes, then!
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby no-one » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:47 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Talk about leaving us all hanging :MAXIMAL:

Says the News Crew Stooge that often has access to information long before the rest of us. >:oP
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:58 am

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I'm back, and I see that the boxed set bios have been posted. What I was referring to before wasn't related to Inferno (I know not what that's all about), but instead pertains to Cicadacon.

Check out what his bio and Sea Clamp's bio say about Cicadacon:

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"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:01 am

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By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:02 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:03 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sigma Magnus » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:05 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds :MAXIMAL:

...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:08 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds :MAXIMAL:
It doesn't even feel necessary. Or even make that much sense. It feels like just another attempt to cram even more G1 stuff into Beast Wars, only more haphazardly than ever.

And the bit about the Cicadacon being one of the earliest Cybertronians to come online would then make his true self old as dirt. Like, Alpha Trion-old, which was never before given to be the case about that guy.

Sigma Magnus wrote:...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?
These bios seem to be implying that Cicadacon is Shockwave.
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Midnight_Fox » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:09 am

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Sigma Magnus wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds :MAXIMAL:

...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?


The bio is insinuating that Cicadacon is Shockwave(or rather that Shockwave was an amnesia induced shell program of a wounded pre-war Cicadacon).
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:09 am

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Sabrblade wrote:"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

Sound familiar? ;)


Shockwave? What does that make the other one?
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:09 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP


Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Sigma Magnus » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:11 am

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Sigma Magnus wrote:...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?
These bios seem to be implying that Cicadacon is Shockwave.

...wow. I...don't really know how to feel about that...
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Midnight_Fox » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:12 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP


Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter :HEADHURTS:


First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value. It was another "this show is connected to that earlier one!" mentions that they loved doing and we fans/nerds had to be ourselves and get all pedantic and literal about it.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby wordmongerer » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:13 am

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"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

Sound familiar? ;)


He could be (at least in a former life) who you are thinking of, but he may not be... There are pieces of the puzzle that haven't been revealed, but the BW Sourcebooks say they were Decepticons and BW the cartoon says they had an origin that was not tied to the destiny of the Decepticons... Only Cicadacon knows who he really is...
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:14 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP


Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter :HEADHURTS:


First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.


Well, it made sense to me, and it made sense with the narrative, I'd sooner believe they were descended from Unicron than this shoe-horned, ret-conned bs >:oP
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Re: Botcon 2016 in Louisville, Kentucky April 7 - 10, 2016

Postby Midnight_Fox » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:17 am

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Midnight_Fox wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:
It never should have come. >:oP


Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter :HEADHURTS:


First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.



Well, it made sense to me, and it made sense with the narrative, I'd sooner believe they were descended from Unicron than this shoe-horned, ret-conned bs >:oP


I'm honestly and personally ok with them having Unicronian origins, truth be told. I've never been all that invested in BW, so I'm not to fussed. I'm going to be ignoring these bios anyway to fit them into my personal fanon where their origins are still left unexplored and mysterious(for the time being).
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