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by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:31 am

An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:If their ship was out there, how come Prime announced his speech to the stars, and not to the ship?

Maybe when the the 5 Autobots got off and started traveling to Earth, the ship was destroyed and the rest of the Autobots were "flying" in deep space and had to live among the stars.

How did they maneuver to Earth in squidball form, when Bumblebee borrowed the Bat Cave signal, and send it thru the sky?

You mean when he signaled them for his location and the location of the Cube? Well they saw the signal and "landed" there.

You can't land on Earth, if first you can't maneuver your trajectory to point towards Earth at the precise angle of entry.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:34 am

Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:If their ship was out there, how come Prime announced his speech to the stars, and not to the ship?

Maybe when the the 5 Autobots got off and started traveling to Earth, the ship was destroyed and the rest of the Autobots were "flying" in deep space and had to live among the stars.

How did they maneuver to Earth in squidball form, when Bumblebee borrowed the Bat Cave signal, and send it thru the sky?

You mean when he signaled them for his location and the location of the Cube? Well they saw the signal and "landed" there.

You can't land on Earth, if first you can't maneuver your trajectory to point towards Earth at the precise angle of entry.

Well they can control their meteor-modes the same way they can control their car modes.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:38 am

An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:If their ship was out there, how come Prime announced his speech to the stars, and not to the ship?

Maybe when the the 5 Autobots got off and started traveling to Earth, the ship was destroyed and the rest of the Autobots were "flying" in deep space and had to live among the stars.

How did they maneuver to Earth in squidball form, when Bumblebee borrowed the Bat Cave signal, and send it thru the sky?

You mean when he signaled them for his location and the location of the Cube? Well they saw the signal and "landed" there.

You can't land on Earth, if first you can't maneuver your trajectory to point towards Earth at the precise angle of entry.

Well they can control their meteor-modes the same way they can control their car modes.

No way! They can't even fly.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:40 am

Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:If their ship was out there, how come Prime announced his speech to the stars, and not to the ship?

Maybe when the the 5 Autobots got off and started traveling to Earth, the ship was destroyed and the rest of the Autobots were "flying" in deep space and had to live among the stars.

How did they maneuver to Earth in squidball form, when Bumblebee borrowed the Bat Cave signal, and send it thru the sky?

You mean when he signaled them for his location and the location of the Cube? Well they saw the signal and "landed" there.

Well don't they have jet-boosters or something so they can control their meteor modes?

You can't land on Earth, if first you can't maneuver your trajectory to point towards Earth at the precise angle of entry.

Well they can control their meteor-modes the same way they can control their car modes.

No way! They can't even fly.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:45 am

What?

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:56 am

I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:59 am

An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:03 am

Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:23 am

They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:26 am

Leonardo wrote:They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

I think so... But from the back of the toy there's a cool flame coming out... It must be from a thruster/booster or it can be just from the air pressure during falling from the sky...

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:28 am

An_de wrote:
Leonardo wrote:They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

I think so... But from the back of the toy there's a cool flame coming out... It must be from a thruster/booster or it can be just whom the air pressure during falling from the sky...

When things move, they pick up heat. Thats all it is.

No boosters.

Why not? Because that sort of discharge would come up on our scanners. We'd SEE the boosters and know they're not just Meteors.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:30 am

Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Leonardo wrote:They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

I think so... But from the back of the toy there's a cool flame coming out... It must be from a thruster/booster or it can be just whom the air pressure during falling from the sky...
When things move, they pick up heat. Thats all it is.

No boosters.

Why not? Because that sort of discharge would come up on our scanners. We'd SEE the boosters and know they're not just Meteors.

I never thought about that...

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:33 am

An_de wrote:
Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Leonardo wrote:They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

I think so... But from the back of the toy there's a cool flame coming out... It must be from a thruster/booster or it can be just whom the air pressure during falling from the sky...
When things move, they pick up heat. Thats all it is.

No boosters.

Why not? Because that sort of discharge would come up on our scanners. We'd SEE the boosters and know they're not just Meteors.

I never thought about that...

And, back to the main question, would it not look a little odd seeing meteors heading AWAY from earth suddenly?

Sounds like another one the writers are gonna stumble on trying to explain.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:35 am

Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Leonardo wrote:They do have boosters or thrusters, don't they?

I think so... But from the back of the toy there's a cool flame coming out... It must be from a thruster/booster or it can be just whom the air pressure during falling from the sky...
When things move, they pick up heat. Thats all it is.

No boosters.

Why not? Because that sort of discharge would come up on our scanners. We'd SEE the boosters and know they're not just Meteors.

I never thought about that...
And, back to the main question, would it not look a little odd seeing meteors heading AWAY from earth suddenly?

Sounds like another one the writers are gonna stumble on trying to explain.

I can't explain that...

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:35 am

Valid points; I concede.

In that case, I can't really see how they were guiding themselves through space or how Bumblebee followed Megatron in the prequel comic.

by **Raymond101** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:40 am

I'm just shocked at how Autobots cannot physically fly. WTH?

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:53 am

An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:54 am

Leonardo wrote:Valid points; I concede.

In that case, I can't really see how they were guiding themselves through space or how Bumblebee followed Megatron in the prequel comic.

That's a question we should ask... Michael Bay.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:55 am

Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

How about Mars?

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:02 am

An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

How about Mars?

What ABOUT Mars? Of course that has gravity. How do you think the Rover was able to drive across it?

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:04 am

Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

How about Mars?
What ABOUT Mars? Of course that has gravity. How do you think the Rover was able to drive across it?

All planets, moons, comets, sun have their own gravity.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:33 am

Auto Bot wrote:
Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

How about Mars?
What ABOUT Mars? Of course that has gravity. How do you think the Rover was able to drive across it?

All planets, moons, comets, sun have their own gravity.

Not what I was talking about. I wanted to say this: What if they launched someway else? Like the rockets: They launch and then they dismantle during flying.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:52 am

An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
Meverix wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
An_de wrote:I don't know why the forum didn't show my post after the quote but I was saying that those meteors had jet-boosters (I think) and they helped them to maneuver.

Sadly, there's none.

They fall out of the sky.

Well if on Cybertron there isn't gravity, they just make a big jump and they are in space (the most unwise thing I said for today)

Cybertron has gravity. Never will ever a planet be without any gravity.

How about Mars?
What ABOUT Mars? Of course that has gravity. How do you think the Rover was able to drive across it?

All planets, moons, comets, sun have their own gravity.

Not what I was talking about. I wanted to say this: What if they launched someway else? Like the rockets: They launch and then they dismantle during flying.

It's possible. But that won't give them maneuverability in space either.

by **syphonn** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:47 pm

Going back to their entry mode, the comet entry mode is a bad idea, that would definitely draw attention to them especially when a rock of that size makes it through the atmosphere. Plus, it would be alot easier for them to be tracked since they will follow a predictable path. If they were going to use an entry mode it would make sense for them to use one that is capable of space flight that they can use for a quiet controlled entry and of course capable of leaving the planet. Using Bay logic since they have the ability to change alt. modes at will they, as somewhere already suggested, probably have stored an alt. mode capable of leaving. But does that apply to non flyers?

by **Deadpool.** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:07 pm

If i recall correctly, even G1 Starscream could fly through space in his F-15 alt-mode (Revenge of Bruticus). So the alt-mode really doesn't matter much as the technology is still superior to the Earthen ones.... Just like Megs in the movie. As for the Autobots, for some reason they had to revert to protoform in order to travel to Earth.