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Confused about the status of Primes in the IDW-verse (Possible SPOILERS).

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Postby AxiomScion » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:25 pm

Wodicus quickly picked up on what was only my secondary thoughts on the title Prime. Something along the lines of a ruling protector of the peace.

While i don't have anything to currently ad speclation wise or other... Let me say that i truely enjoy the theories presented.

oh. Leonardo that pic shows the back of OrionPax's head while in another thread there is a link to the face view. without a faceplate.

there is a white repaint standing behind him, Elita-1 beside him and AlphaTrion on the other side.

:-? i wonder who is Dion?

Novacron Sorry to say my shortened version is my only version not running soley through my noodle :P

I'll try to get amore detailed idea out though. I'm pretty sure though, despite these wonderful theories of ours, Furman will surprise us yet.
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Postby Novacron » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:31 pm

I'm sure whatever Furman has got lined up will be good. I, for one, just hope it's penciled by Don!
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Postby MYoung23 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:32 pm

I think there is a separation of powers thing goin on between the Senate and the Prime designation along with some checks and balances.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:02 pm

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AxiomScion wrote:I may have some theoretical speculation :-?

suppose there are 12 major citystates in all of cyberton and each has an elder/senater/coucil member of some sore. The Prime could be the head of these councils. Having a religious boble and dounting physical prowess though no teritory of his own. This grouping could break down into each having there own advisers, head of security or what have you.

I'm guessing NovaPrime took the matrix with. In his absence SentinelPrime was selected as the new Prime. Don't ask how but perhaps a confermation through a data link with VectorSigma or a knowlege data disk was emparted (ala WWI besides the matrix) I'm not certain if there is a "matrix flame" in the IDW verse or VecSig for that matter but seeing AlphaTrion could substanciate the later of the two.
Either way, Optimus will likely be initiated the same way SentinelPrime was. That is unless Megs leaves him for dead in some origin story for A-3 to go guru over.


They could also be going the way of the Japanese Beast wars.There was more then 1 matrix in their universe.Every convoy in the Council of Convoys had a Matrix.
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Postby AxiomScion » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:08 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
AxiomScion wrote:I may have some theoretical speculation :-?

suppose there are 12 major citystates in all of cyberton and each has an elder/senater/coucil member of some sore. The Prime could be the head of these councils. Having a religious boble and dounting physical prowess though no teritory of his own. This grouping could break down into each having there own advisers, head of security or what have you.

I'm guessing NovaPrime took the matrix with. In his absence SentinelPrime was selected as the new Prime. Don't ask how but perhaps a confermation through a data link with VectorSigma or a knowlege data disk was emparted (ala WWI besides the matrix) I'm not certain if there is a "matrix flame" in the IDW verse or VecSig for that matter but seeing AlphaTrion could substanciate the later of the two.
Either way, Optimus will likely be initiated the same way SentinelPrime was. That is unless Megs leaves him for dead in some origin story for A-3 to go guru over.


They could also be going the way of the Japanese Beast wars.There was more then 1 matrix in their universe.Every convoy in the Council of Convoys had a Matrix.
By the nose hairs of Kalis I must disagree with the, my fellow warrior poet. May his hands stay firmly griped to the becklef to which they were woven upon....

The only reason i would think IDW wouldn't use multi matrixii is because it wasn't a Furman idea or ever applied to a Fruman universe. Plus, I personally think it would lessen the importance of The Matrix, though there could be multiples in BW era. Given Primal's origins he shouldn't really have one though.
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Postby Briggs » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:30 am

Hahah, is that "magnus" behind "optimus" in that comic scan?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:48 pm

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
AxiomScion wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
AxiomScion wrote:I may have some theoretical speculation :-?

suppose there are 12 major citystates in all of cyberton and each has an elder/senater/coucil member of some sore. The Prime could be the head of these councils. Having a religious boble and dounting physical prowess though no teritory of his own. This grouping could break down into each having there own advisers, head of security or what have you.

I'm guessing NovaPrime took the matrix with. In his absence SentinelPrime was selected as the new Prime. Don't ask how but perhaps a confermation through a data link with VectorSigma or a knowlege data disk was emparted (ala WWI besides the matrix) I'm not certain if there is a "matrix flame" in the IDW verse or VecSig for that matter but seeing AlphaTrion could substanciate the later of the two.
Either way, Optimus will likely be initiated the same way SentinelPrime was. That is unless Megs leaves him for dead in some origin story for A-3 to go guru over.


They could also be going the way of the Japanese Beast wars.There was more then 1 matrix in their universe.Every convoy in the Council of Convoys had a Matrix.
By the nose hairs of Kalis I must disagree with the, my fellow warrior poet. May his hands stay firmly griped to the becklef to which they were woven upon....

The only reason i would think IDW wouldn't use multi matrixii is because it wasn't a Furman idea or ever applied to a Fruman universe. Plus, I personally think it would lessen the importance of The Matrix, though there could be multiples in BW era. Given Primal's origins he shouldn't really have one though.


Do nt worry.....you are safe...for now :grin: But it was just a theory to explain why some Primes [like Nova] could go missing and there still be "A MATRIX" for Optimus....it could also explaine why the Matrix could have chosen baddly with Nova.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:51 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote: But it was just a theory to explain why some Primes [like Nova] could go missing and there still be "A MATRIX" for Optimus....it could also explaine why the Matrix could have chosen baddly with Nova.


Who says it was not the Matrix itself that corrupted Nova??? :D
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:46 am

i_amtrunks wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote: But it was just a theory to explain why some Primes [like Nova] could go missing and there still be "A MATRIX" for Optimus....it could also explaine why the Matrix could have chosen baddly with Nova.


Who says it was not the Matrix itself that corrupted Nova??? :D


Could be, could be. Maybe the Matrix does things 'for a reason' in much the same way that Vector Sigma restored the balance of power in Headmasters.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:47 pm

Leonardo wrote:Maybe the Matrix does things 'for a reason' in much the same way that Vector Sigma restored the balance of power in Headmasters.


Wonder what being dragged into the Dead Universe did to the Matrix's plans then... :-?

So much potential, so much messing with my head.
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