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I told myself I'd never see the new Transformers movie and now Im sitting here looking at two tickets to see an advanced screening tonight. FUKC. This better not ruin transformers for me.

Well just make sure you dont end up liking the movie as that will that will balance out your situation.

If it ruins TFs for you, it's *YOUR* fault. Not the movie's.

1.) We've known all along what the movie was and what it's about, and how it's been handled.

2.) No one forced you to buy a ticket, you chose to do so.

If you don't like the movie, that's fine. If you do like it, that's fine as well. However, don't blame the movie for ruining a fanboy obsession, blame yourself completely.

Besides, if a single movie can ruin it for you, you weren't a true fan anyway.

A true fan loves the TransFormers period. Whether it's G1, A/E/C, Classics, or the movie. If one of those things can ruin all the other series and aspects for you, then it's all on your shoulders, not the other way around.

The old chestnut "don't like it, don't buy it" fits here, as well as "let the buyer beware"

It's a shame so many people are willing to give up their enjoyment because of one form of media and how it doesn't fit their "view".

....people need to get over themselves. Seriously. To those of you who think like this...it's not about you, the world doesn't revolve around you and TransFormers aren't made solely for you.

Once you realize that, and see that others enjoy them as well, and for other reasons besides your's...you'll come to terms with not being the most important part of the whole thing and you'll handle it all, quite a bit better.

I mean, come on...coming to grips with the fact that you're going to see a movie you may not like? This isn't a groundbreaking or lifechanging decision, and if it is...then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your life and see what else is screwed up.

If a movie, or a toyline is what makes you happy, that's fine...to a certain extent. If it's your end all, be all...then there's help available and you might want to check into it.

...wow.

Wow, someone likes to go on pc rants.

And I thought I was uptight.

Prowl20 wrote:Wow, someone likes to go on pc rants.

And I thought I was uptight.

lol, you got that right.
YOU WILL LIKE THIS MOVIE SON! IF YOU DONT YOU ARE A WHINING FANBOY AND NOT A TRUE TRANSFORMERS FAN! YOU GOT THAT? NOW GIMME TWENTY PRIVATE!
Yuuuppp, got to love the attitude of some people on this board

Let us know if you liked it or not. Just be sure its your very own opinion.

Hahaha will do. The way I see it, if I go in with the lowest expectations possible, it'll be good no matter how bad it sucks in actuality. Extremely flawed logic, I know, but hey, this is all coming from a kid who couldnt get into the series post-original movie.

I apologize for being so...harsh.

Look, I had to grow up and realize that things don't always go the way I want them. Now, that doesn't mean I go out of my way to complain about them either.

When I first got on the internet and on message boards, I was a pure pain in the ass. Not because I intended to be, but because I was an idiot. (I still am to a certain extent, we all are.)

Now, if I'm an asshole, it's because I choose to be. I don't actually like being one, but I do like to use the common sense I was given. Make up for all the times in the past that I haven't used it.

This movie shouldn't affect anyone so deeply that they give up their collecting, their affection for the mythos, etc.

A lot of people hate George Lucas for what he did with the prequels in Star Wars whereas I happened to like them quite a bit.*

Don't let fanboyishness get in the way of enjoying yourself and having a good time with TransFormers. That's what a hobby is all about! Who wants to spend scads of money on something that brings them great displeasure?

I didn't like Beast Machines (the series), but I loved the toys. I bought 'em because I enjoyed 'em. I don't buy G1 because I can't stand the toys, but I still like the show. (to some extent)

If I let my dislikes run how I interact in this world of collecting, I'd never be happy and never own anything. I'm one of the most critical and whiny people you'll ever meet and even I have learned that sometimes I just need to shut the f*ck up and enjoy the ride. Sure, there are times it's boring, times when you want to give up along the way, but in the end...you've had a hell of an adventure, had great new experiences and met people you never even knew existed.

Sounds a lot like life, doesn't it? The great thing is, while life has somethings you must go through (and that's not a complaint), collecting is something you don't. If you honestly feel that you'll suffer because of it, then don't put yourself into such a situation. Don't waste the money and then bitch about it. I did it, I should know. My bitching muscles should be able to bench press the island of Manhattan.

Now? I don't have to spend $180.00 on a single figure (F*CK YOU G1 PROWL AND YOUR HEFTY PRICING! YOU KILLED MY WALLET THAT CHRISTMAS! YOU SUCK!). Now, I can buy what I want and not what I don't want, and then all I have to bitch about is overindulging myself here and there, not a bunch of "OMGBBQWTF?! HASBLOW SUX! THEY MADE HIM THE WRONG COLOR! AND HIS WEAPON DOESN'T GO THERE! D00D, THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!" type of posts. (oh how those posts make me want to pour Draino in my skull and let it seep into my brain.) I got rid of that ridiculous completist attitude and I'm much better off because of it.

I wasn't a fan of the movie when all of this came to light at first. I damn well hated Starscream's sh*tty Chicken walker/Gundam design...but now, I love that figure and he's one of my favorite movie pieces. (NOTE: Results may vary, case not typical.)

Why did I change my mind? Because I relaxed and had fun and realized that I was taking it too serious. (Collecting and TeH INTERNET: Serious Business.)

I'll admit, I hate the idea of TF: Animated, and the designs even more so. But, then I realize I don't have to watch the show, I don't have to buy the toys, and there's stuff that I like that will still be available on the side so I'm not left out.

Plus, all of this is for the kids. We're not kids anymore. We can, however, still be one at heart and have fun like one.


*= The Phantom Menace could've moved a tad faster, and relied less on such a convoluted storyline, but more on action...still, it's not a bad movie, and it's part of my collection. I'm still scratching my head at some of it though. Trade disputes? Blockades? Political nonsense? I get the whole the "God vs Satan" issue...the rest of it makes my brain bleed. Couldn't it have just been that there's some intergalactic prick causing problems and the Jedis come and clean it up, like in the original trilogy? Oh no...you need to make it current, make it relevant to today's issues. Ah. Gotcha. Way to make people hate you and solidify that their thinking it's a suckfest.

Spoon wrote:

Prowl20 wrote:Wow, someone likes to go on pc rants.

And I thought I was uptight.

lol, you got that right.
YOU WILL LIKE THIS MOVIE SON! IF YOU DONT YOU ARE A WHINING FANBOY AND NOT A TRUE TRANSFORMERS FAN! YOU GOT THAT? NOW GIMME TWENTY PRIVATE!
Yuuuppp, got to love the attitude of some people on this board

Let us know if you liked it or not. Just be sure its your very own opinion.

Yeah, I'm uptight, generally. I admit it.

And yes, YOU WILL LIKE IT! YOU'LL EAT LIGHTNING AND CRAP THUNDER TOO! (..or however the hell that goes...) J/K.

I'm not saying he's not a true TF fan. I'm said that if one thing can ruin the rest for him (or anyone for that matter), then he (or anyone else) isn't a true fan.

Should I hate everything else because I hate G1 toys, TF: Animated and it's whole "thing"? Of course not. That would be absolutely silly.

Not hating everything because of a couple items I find hard to swallow, is being sensible.

Worrying that 2 hours and 20 minutes of film might ruin everything you love, is not.

And I fully agree, he should go see the movie and make a decision on the film itself about whether or not he likes it, and it should be *HIS* opinion.

Prowl20 wrote:Hahaha will do. The way I see it, if I go in with the lowest expectations possible, it'll be good no matter how bad it sucks in actuality. Extremely flawed logic, I know, but hey, this is all coming from a kid who couldnt get into the series post-original movie.

Trust me, after you see it, you will like Transformers more than you did before.

I never thought I would say this, but it's better than the original movie and I am a G1-er.

This cat's a liver.

GetterDragun wrote:

Prowl20 wrote:Hahaha will do. The way I see it, if I go in with the lowest expectations possible, it'll be good no matter how bad it sucks in actuality. Extremely flawed logic, I know, but hey, this is all coming from a kid who couldnt get into the series post-original movie.

Trust me, after you see it, you will like Transformers more than you did before.

I never thought I would say this, but it's better than the original movie and I am a G1-er.

O_o...now that's saying something.

Autobot032 wrote:I apologize for being so...harsh.

Look, I had to grow up and realize that things don't always go the way I want them. Now, that doesn't mean I go out of my way to complain about them either.

When I first got on the internet and on message boards, I was a pure pain in the ass. Not because I intended to be, but because I was an idiot. (I still am to a certain extent, we all are.)

Now, if I'm an asshole, it's because I choose to be. I don't actually like being one, but I do like to use the common sense I was given. Make up for all the times in the past that I haven't used it.

This movie shouldn't affect anyone so deeply that they give up their collecting, their affection for the mythos, etc.

A lot of people hate George Lucas for what he did with the prequels in Star Wars whereas I happened to like them quite a bit.*

Don't let fanboyishness get in the way of enjoying yourself and having a good time with TransFormers. That's what a hobby is all about! Who wants to spend scads of money on something that brings them great displeasure?

I didn't like Beast Machines (the series), but I loved the toys. I bought 'em because I enjoyed 'em. I don't buy G1 because I can't stand the toys, but I still like the show. (to some extent)

If I let my dislikes run how I interact in this world of collecting, I'd never be happy and never own anything. I'm one of the most critical and whiny people you'll ever meet and even I have learned that sometimes I just need to shut the f*ck up and enjoy the ride. Sure, there are times it's boring, times when you want to give up along the way, but in the end...you've had a hell of an adventure, had great new experiences and met people you never even knew existed.

Sounds a lot like life, doesn't it? The great thing is, while life has somethings you must go through (and that's not a complaint), collecting is something you don't. If you honestly feel that you'll suffer because of it, then don't put yourself into such a situation. Don't waste the money and then bitch about it. I did it, I should know. My bitching muscles should be able to bench press the island of Manhattan.

Now? I don't have to spend $180.00 on a single figure (F*CK YOU G1 PROWL AND YOUR HEFTY PRICING! YOU KILLED MY WALLET THAT CHRISTMAS! YOU SUCK!). Now, I can buy what I want and not what I don't want, and then all I have to bitch about is overindulging myself here and there, not a bunch of "OMGBBQWTF?! HASBLOW SUX! THEY MADE HIM THE WRONG COLOR! AND HIS WEAPON DOESN'T GO THERE! D00D, THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!" type of posts. (oh how those posts make me want to pour Draino in my skull and let it seep into my brain.) I got rid of that ridiculous completist attitude and I'm much better off because of it.

I wasn't a fan of the movie when all of this came to light at first. I damn well hated Starscream's sh*tty Chicken walker/Gundam design...but now, I love that figure and he's one of my favorite movie pieces. (NOTE: Results may vary, case not typical.)

Why did I change my mind? Because I relaxed and had fun and realized that I was taking it too serious. (Collecting and TeH INTERNET: Serious Business.)

I'll admit, I hate the idea of TF: Animated, and the designs even more so. But, then I realize I don't have to watch the show, I don't have to buy the toys, and there's stuff that I like that will still be available on the side so I'm not left out.

Plus, all of this is for the kids. We're not kids anymore. We can, however, still be one at heart and have fun like one.


*= The Phantom Menace could've moved a tad faster, and relied less on such a convoluted storyline, but more on action...still, it's not a bad movie, and it's part of my collection. I'm still scratching my head at some of it though. Trade disputes? Blockades? Political nonsense? I get the whole the "God vs Satan" issue...the rest of it makes my brain bleed. Couldn't it have just been that there's some intergalactic prick causing problems and the Jedis come and clean it up, like in the original trilogy? Oh no...you need to make it current, make it relevant to today's issues. Ah. Gotcha. Way to make people hate you and solidify that their thinking it's a suckfest.

I want to also see the movie and I am a G1-er Yeah, I would find it hard to be a completist, as I don't like Beast Wars/ Beast Machines and G1 stopped after the movie for me.. so Bw/Bm and post Movie stuff don't really figure into my 'continuity.' More then likely the new movie will kick up my enthusiasm for Transformers, and this high-pockets might even be tempted to buy a movie figure .

*Off topic discussion * I didn't see the God vs. Satan issue in it, just the 'virgin birth' idea Lucas added, which I thought was a real eye-roller. I didn't mind the Midichlorians, but oh boy was Mr. Lucas really pushing the "He is very special" deal with the virgin birth. That was the only thing I didn't like about Episode 1.
Correction: Anakin is the second thing I don't like about that movie. Some of the phrases he says are utterly annoying. Not even Jar Jar is that bad.

Autobot032 wrote:

Spoon wrote:

Prowl20 wrote:Wow, someone likes to go on pc rants.

And I thought I was uptight.

lol, you got that right.
YOU WILL LIKE THIS MOVIE SON! IF YOU DONT YOU ARE A WHINING FANBOY AND NOT A TRUE TRANSFORMERS FAN! YOU GOT THAT? NOW GIMME TWENTY PRIVATE!
Yuuuppp, got to love the attitude of some people on this board

Let us know if you liked it or not. Just be sure its your very own opinion.

Yeah, I'm uptight, generally. I admit it.

And yes, YOU WILL LIKE IT! YOU'LL EAT LIGHTNING AND CRAP THUNDER TOO! (..or however the hell that goes...) J/K.

I'm not saying he's not a true TF fan. I'm said that if one thing can ruin the rest for him (or anyone for that matter), then he (or anyone else) isn't a true fan.

Should I hate everything else because I hate G1 toys, TF: Animated and it's whole "thing"? Of course not. That would be absolutely silly.

Not hating everything because of a couple items I find hard to swallow, is being sensible.

Worrying that 2 hours and 20 minutes of film might ruin everything you love, is not.

And I fully agree, he should go see the movie and make a decision on the film itself about whether or not he likes it, and it should be *HIS* opinion.

Na, its cool. Everyone has their moments. I've just been seeing a lot of people on boards who have little to no sense of humor.

GetterDragun wrote:

Prowl20 wrote:Hahaha will do. The way I see it, if I go in with the lowest expectations possible, it'll be good no matter how bad it sucks in actuality. Extremely flawed logic, I know, but hey, this is all coming from a kid who couldnt get into the series post-original movie.

Trust me, after you see it, you will like Transformers more than you did before.

I never thought I would say this, but it's better than the original movie and I am a G1-er.

Oh believe me, after seeing the movie tonight, Im pretty much going to be binging the original movie score for quite a while. And its only made me more excited about getting some more Transformers ink next week.

GetterDragun wrote:

Prowl20 wrote:Hahaha will do. The way I see it, if I go in with the lowest expectations possible, it'll be good no matter how bad it sucks in actuality. Extremely flawed logic, I know, but hey, this is all coming from a kid who couldnt get into the series post-original movie.

Trust me, after you see it, you will like Transformers more than you did before.

I never thought I would say this, but it's better than the original movie and I am a G1-er.

No way man. Granted the new movie kicked ass but its not better than the original. Just imagine if the original was done by ILM then say what one is better.