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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Please don't clog this thread up with garbage. Either post a real picture of yourself, or tell Va'al how pretty he is.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Sorry guys, but the Alternity guys make every other breed of Transformers look like insignificant wusses (save for Primus and Unicron, it hasn't yet been stated how their powers compare to those two).
Why, they can wipe out entire worlds (not just planets, but the realities themselves) with just a finger snap or an eye blink.
Every single bit of damage and destruction caused by any of the TFs from G1, Beast Era, RiD, Unicron Trilogy, Movies, Animated, WFC/Exodus/Prime, etc. cannot even hope to stand up to the might of the hyper-dimensional abilities of the Alternity dudes. They're simply on a whole other level of existence and power that none of the other series bots could even begin to comprehend.
Even if every single stinkin' character ever conceived in the 26+ years of history were to be assembled together to fight against the guys of Alternity, all the Alternity guys would have to do is just barely make a move and every single one of thier opponents could be easily erased from existence in an instant.
It really isn't fair, though, that these guys are so powerful that they'd wipe the floor with anyone and everyone else. There's just no competition with these guys except between each other.
"Weird" =/= "bad". It takes some clever and heavy thinking to come up with such complexity.deathy wrote:Does it even make sense to ADD alternity. due to that Japanese toy bio writter guy getting way too carried away & reaching into the realm of the absurd. it appears this is the same guy/guys who wrote wrote all those uber weird/absurd binal tech toy tech spech bio's.
No, that was just a bunch of ordinary guys from across the Multiverse getting pulled together into the Post-Beast Machines time for one big conflict. It didn't just happen ion the toy bios. There was a full comic story and everything.deathy wrote:Anyways didn't a similar alternity story scenario happen in the TF Universe toy story bio's/tech specs. where unicron was feeding off the energy from the TF battles from all the alternate universes. where primus/vector prime bought back BM Primal & a crew to fight battles.
Yep, yep, yep. In this comic, the moon is sliced at. In this one, the whole ground is reduced to rubble in at least two worlds. In this one, the whole place has been reduced to an uninhabitable ruin. In the final text story, Megatron used the tablet of the Planicrons to unleash their destructive force of magic on the Alternity, ultimately bringing it to its death in a cosmic phenomemon so great that, despite the Alternity members of the Convoy Corps had survived by having their essences transported to their Auto Avatars, it was felt across the multiverse. Megatron had by this point become "Megatherion", the God of Destruction. And all the Planicrons within than tablet had been killed themselves, which, given their singular nature of being the embodiment of their world, severely distorted and wounded Flatworld itself.deathy wrote:Honestly,did the alternity guys & villians cause any choas & mass destruction like the other alternate TF universes did?? to merely prevent something is not considered choas/destruction. it has to actually happen to count. as various alternate TF universes prevented choas/destruction from happening.
Monkey. And why not? It's canon.deathy wrote:Personally if were gonna add alternity than we might as well just count that silly G-1 TF season 3 episode as canon where that pig dude claimed to create unicron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Hmm, well, there's really no debate about it. There's really only one story that has the most astronomically powerful warriors of all time: Alternity.
This story was beyond epic. Possibly the biggest event ever constructed in Transformers fiction. The sheer scale of this story was cosmic, with the whole of reality itself being the set battleground.
Fighting on the side of the Autobots were the Alternity and the Protectors.
The Alternity are higher-dimensional beings having evolved beyond the limits of Cybertronian life. They exist on a higher plane of existence, spanning the entire multiverse, and are contain a collective consciousness that consists of a combination of multiple versions of a single indivdual (i.e. - Alternity Convoy is every Convoy/Optimus Prime), enabling them to existing in all worlds simultaneously. In order to interact with the physical world, the Alternity make use of material vessels called Auto-Avatars, which resemble the forms of the ordinary lesser being Transformers, but contain characteristics of super-advanced nature of the Alternity (such as being constructed by higher-dimensional material Alternium).
However, as advanced as these Autobots have become, there is a limit to their power: they cannot travel to any times or worlds that existed prior to 2007. This is where the Protectors come in. While not being hyper-dimensional beings like the Alternity, they are elite soldiers who served under the Alternity and are charged with safeguarding timelines. They are able to travel back to times prior to 2003 to confront enemies to time/space who would pose threats at any given time before that year. Also unlike the Alternity, there is only one of each member, rather than each one being every iteration of that character.
To counter this, however, the Deceptcions have their own forces: the Megatron Aggregate and the Questors.
The Megatron Aggregate is the Cons's answer to the Alternity. Having trapped and absorbed the power of the gigantic and intangible "Beast of Time" Hytherion, Megatron had artificially produced his own path to achieving the same hyper-dimensional status of the Alternity. Hytherion is the largest and most fearsome opponent to have ever appeared in Transformers lore (moreso even than Unicron). Because of his cosmically-scaled nature, he is practicall invisible to the physical world of ordinary beings. Knowing this, Megatorn could have easily allowed him to devour time itself, thus eliminating the very origin of existence itself. However, Megs instead chose to take the god-beast's power into himself and forced a psuedo-Alternity metamorphosis upon himself, creating several Auto-Avatars of himself to form the Megatron Aggregate.
Aiding in Megatron's conquest of space-time are the Questors: Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker given new trans-dimensional bodies simialr to, but not as advanced as, those of the Alternity. Still, with their sparks encased in Alternium, they can traverse dimensions and eventually evolve to the higher-dimensional state of existence at which they would be able to combat the Alternity on even ground. The mission of the Questors is to help in the accessing Flatworld, a two-dimensional world that is the home of the Planicrons. The Planicrons are two-dimensional beings who have become the living embodiment of the phrase "'Till All Are One", having become a sophisticated single existence called the Cosmic Driver, which Megatron desires the power of in order to destroy the Alternity.
There has been no other TF fiction as so mind-bogglingly trans-dimensionally scaled as the fiction of the Alternity line.
More like six short text stories, two two-page comics, one ten-page comic, and one ginormous epic concluding text story. But it is all worth the read.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Please tell me there's a stong, good story behind this... seriously.[/sincere]
Yes, despite how powerful they are, both the Alternity and the Megatron Aggregate each have their own weaknesses. But since both are kinda spoilerific for one who has not read the stories... The Alternity cannot travel to any points in time that exist prior to when the material that makes up their very being, Alternium, was created: 2007. As for the Megatron Aggregate, should a large enough number of Megatron's Auto-Avatars be destroyed simultaneously, Megs would then lose his control over Hytherion and the god-beast would be free to overwhelm Megs' mind. All higher-dimensional beings composed of Alternium (i.e. - both sides) Have one other shared weakness. They have no defenses against an attack made entirely of pure non-energy-based magic, which very few have been known and able to master.Blurrz wrote:I'm actually flabbergasted about that. Never knew Alternity was so overpowered. This makes things interesting.
But every god has their kryptonite! There must be a mini-con for this.. hurry Unicron, poop out more mini-cons!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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