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News Credits: 1 · by **sandmunky** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:28 pm

barring the release of 08 bumblebee, this really is the only movie figure I'm trying to decide over. I'm certainly not going to get both, and then I've heard about the deluxe's arm problem, but I also have a few hangups about buying the Leader Class version because Leader class used to be for LEADERS, so it kinda feels like I'm just buying into some sort of scheme on Hasbro's part.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:33 pm

I own the Deluxe and I think it's a good figure. (I'd have said great, but the shoulders are a pure pain to work with at first.)

That said, I'm still going to buy the Leader Class figure. Something about his character, his alt mode screams "HE NEEDS A LEADER CLASS FIGURE!"

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumbled** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:08 pm

Yer the Deluxe one if a good figure. Considering Leader Class is a fairly large figure, it might have some technical problems.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:30 pm

Id get the Deluxe.

From the (very) few images I have seen of the Leader Class figure, he does not all that much different, or technically better than the Deluxe version.

I'm confident the leader class figure will not have the same arm/shoulder issues as the smaller deluxe figure, but seeing as how easily the shoulder issue can be remedied, its not that big of a deal.

I guess it really comes to how much you like the character, to whether you want to buy the deluxe version, or pay about four times as much for the leader class figure.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumbled** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:37 am

Yer, the leader class is basically just a big sized version of the Deluxe. And Usually when I have $50+ Australian, I go and by something else rather than a toy, maybe a game or so. The most I ever spend is $50 on a toy.

News Credits: 4 · by **GrimSqueaker** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:40 am

hmmm bumbled raises a good point, do u have the cash. this figure is a must have-so if u must have it, what price must u have it at, and can u wait for the big un?

Personally i am getting both, but then again i am a grown up and can do pretty much as i like! :grin:

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:41 am

I nearly bought Deluxe Brawl in Argos (£7.49) last night but decided to wait for the Leader. I like the idea of a MASSIVE tank and tanks should be massive.

by **Saya** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:48 am

Being an American, deluxe Brawl will cost you around $10. I'm not intimately familiar with your financial situation, but I suspect that he's cheap enough for you to get both.

by **Daxmajor** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:31 am

I'm waiting for the Leader-class. He should be to scale with the Movie Autobots (and most other Transformers) @ Leader size and that's very appealing to me.

by **Spartanion** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:45 am

I kind of understand your situation. I have deluxe sitting in my car's trunk... He's been there since the toys first came out and I've been pondering if I should take him back and wait for leader class or not.

I mostly wanted leader class because I have MP Optimus so I'd like my autobots and decepticons to be more balanced, but then again I'm thinking I'd rather spend $40-50 more and get MP Megs and be truly balanced.

So depends on 1) How much do you like the character. 2) How much do you like each Transformer, mind you from what I've seen ; and correct me if I'm wrong, the cannon is on the arm of deluxe brawl while it appears to be on the side torso of leader, 3) How will he function in your collection?

Thats how I'm basing most of my purchasing decisions.

by ***RATBAT*** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:06 am

Hasbro should definately have a leader class Brawl as well as a Blackout(it cracks me up how on the back of his voyager box, it states that he is "the LARGEST Decepticon").
In the movie Brawl and Blackout are both huge and should, at least in toy terms, be about the size of Megatron and Prime laeder figures.

For that matter, how's this for Decepticons:
Leader class: Starscream, Blackout, Brawl, Bonecrusher

The Autobot movie toys are pretty much proper scale....the Decepticons, however, not so much... :-x

by **Spark Light** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:29 am

Neither.

Get the FAB; he's notably superior in terms of paint apps and general kickassness. He's over an inch taller than the Deluxe, still quite small, but if you pick up FAB 'Hide who I personally believe to be the superior version too, it might not look so bad.

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=77

Get the FAB, and if you decide you want it, get the Leader later too. The FAB is also more different to the Leader than the Deluxe is, keep in mind, so you'll have too different versions rather than two different sizes.

Brawl should just have been a Voyager, IMO. Makes a lot more sense, best trade off between size accurate(tanks fit in very large in a voyager box) and price since he's not a well loved character(barely appears in the movie).

News Credits: 665 · by **Skowl** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:19 am

Wait for the Leader class figure.

Having a Decepticon police car that is bigger than an M-1 Abrams tank just doesn't look (or feel) right at all. At least the Leader toy is in scale with the other figures (except Blackout and Starscream)

by **Hotstuff Louie B** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:30 am

Thats exactly how I feel. I have the deluxe and had I known they were making the leader I wouldn't have got him.

Skowl wrote:Wait for the Leader class figure.

Having a Decepticon police car that is bigger than an M-1 Abrams tank just doesn't look (or feel) right at all. At least the Leader toy is in scale with the other figures (except Blackout and Starscream)

by **n_tel_ekt** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:37 am

Well, IMO Brawl was THE coolest Decepticon of the movie (along with Black-Out)... I passed on ALL movies toys and opted for deluxe Brawl... The best Tank TF ever. Sure his shoulder pegs suck but that can be fixed easily... I plan on getting the Leader Brawl as well since he is the most kick ass tank ever.

He will probably be the ONLY Tanks in my collect as his design color and realism beats the hell out of those crappy ass Megatrons tanks...

by **darkassailant888** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:47 am

Leader Brawl, might end up being the only one in my collection from the movie. So yeah, I love him. Definintly earned more on-air time.

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:16 pm

the only prob is that if hasbro made them 2 scale then people wouldn't buy as many because there $40 a pop it would be nice but the only other leader i see from the movie line is going to be brawl :cry: