The Energon Pub

by **Prowl_83** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:31 pm

I have a theory on Skorponok:

Seeing how he jumps off Blackout's back, and the way the toy is covered in helicopter markings, he was indeed the 'Engine' of Blackout's vehicle mode. (I don't think we see Blackout fly anywhere after he disengages)

When Skorpy gets pounded by the AC130 and scuttles off, perhaps he rejoins with Blackout - we don't see him again as he's crippled, and only any use as part of Blackout. It would follow that he dies with Blackout at the end of the movie, hence his disappearance.

Make sense?

:-?

by **Nugget** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:50 pm

(I don't think we see Blackout fly anywhere after he disengages)

He flies a few times after that. During the street battle scene twice. He's on top of one of the buildings as well.

You are right about the engine part. Those are definitely
compressor blades.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:58 pm

redmarauder747 wrote:[...]the transformer has re-generating ability, much like to human skin[...]

So? If you get stabbed in the stomach, it can't regenerate fast enough, and you die.

If it is like human skin, then he is very much dead.

by **Mr.RobotoAutoMan** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:05 pm

Delta82 wrote:Actually, im pretty sure bonecrusher will live, Brawl got shot in the spark to many times, as did Blackout... Plus scorponok is either dead or killing people in the desert

Also, people have said that Barricade wasn't present because in the next movie he might be revealed as an Auto-Bot Spy.

the movie novel said that prime killed barricade after he was done with bonecrusher. barricade jumped behind prime.

by **autobot commander** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:12 pm

_Optimus Prime_ wrote:Starscream take the lead once again, he recalls all Decepticons to retreat to their sea base, he also calls for the recovery of all the Decepticons dumped into the sea...

there is one problem with that, how will starscream get them out, remember that the presure is so great that starscream would even be able to get himselve out

News Credits: 1 · by **softimus_prime** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:19 pm

Mr.RobotoAutoMan wrote:
Delta82 wrote:Actually, im pretty sure bonecrusher will live, Brawl got shot in the spark to many times, as did Blackout... Plus scorponok is either dead or killing people in the desert

Also, people have said that Barricade wasn't present because in the next movie he might be revealed as an Auto-Bot Spy.

the movie novel said that prime killed barricade after he was done with bonecrusher. barricade jumped behind prime.

oh really? that's bad i do like barricade to come back again... :cry:

by **primalVICTORY** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:13 pm

Prowl_83 wrote:I have a theory on Skorponok:

Seeing how he jumps off Blackout's back, and the way the toy is covered in helicopter markings, he was indeed the 'Engine' of Blackout's vehicle mode. (I don't think we see Blackout fly anywhere after he disengages)

When Skorpy gets pounded by the AC130 and scuttles off, perhaps he rejoins with Blackout - we don't see him again as he's crippled, and only any use as part of Blackout. It would follow that he dies with Blackout at the end of the movie, hence his disappearance.

Make sense?

that does make sense to me. they never show scorponok or blackout after the attack on the remaining soldiers. blackout could still have been at the base and scorpy just went back to him after getting beat.

by **starscream_YEAH** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:43 am

_Optimus Prime_ wrote:Well heres what I think:

Starscream, Barricade & Scorponok are definetly alive & well (with Scorponok being the acception to this in regards to damage).

Notice the parallels to the Energon Series, where Scorponok is found damaged & offline...

The others who died, Megatron, Blackout, Brawl & Bonecrusher were dumped into the sea.

Cast your mind back to G1 series, on Earth the Decepitcons base is under the sea...

Prime recovered the All Spark fragment from Megatrons chest, this will be the key to Megs & others resurrection.

All the right plot lines are in place for TF2.

Heres how it'll go in my mind...

Starscream take the lead once again, he recalls all Decepticons to retreat to their sea base, he also calls for the recovery of all the Decepticons dumped into the sea...

Starscream calls for re-inforcements from Cybertron, and also ralles all the Newly formed Decepticons on Earth from the Energon wave that went out during the film, other Autobots were formed to but that wasn't shown.

Jetfire, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Redalert & others arrives on Earth, as does Tidalwave, Soundwave, Sideways, Shockblast & others.

Starscream orders the recovery of the Allspark fragment to recover his lost comrades, he secretly plans to leave Megs at the bottom of the sea, this plan fails as Unicron makes his presents felt and revives Megatron now Galvatron, Blackout, Brawl & Bonecrusher are all given new forms, Starscream is then destroyed by Galvatron for his failings, Galvatron now sets out to recover the Allspark fragment and destroy the Autobots once and for all.

Jazz is revived with the help of the Allspark fragment and the help of Ratchet & Redalert, although Jazz is now quite different from his last form...

I could do this all day....

You could say the dinobots arrive in protoform but crash into a museum and take on their preferred Alt modes, now that would be a sight.

Spielberg wouldn't have any problems getting some dino action in there

Lots of action ensues, and this time round Optimus is killed by Galvatron, the Decepticons then retreats back to Cybertron...

With Optimus down and Ultra Magnus in control of the matrix the scene is set for TF3 which will be set on Cybertron, Woooot, and Prime will make his return to fight off Galvatron & Unicron....

News Credits: 1 · by **_Optimus Prime_** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:54 pm

autobot comander wrote:
_Optimus Prime_ wrote:Starscream take the lead once again, he recalls all Decepticons to retreat to their sea base, he also calls for the recovery of all the Decepticons dumped into the sea...

there is one problem with that, how will starscream get them out, remember that the presure is so great that starscream would even be able to get himselve out

As far as I know, Transformers do not have lungs, and I'm not sure as to the pressure limits of a Transformers endo-skeleton.

In other series including the original film, Transformers can be see on the ocean bed...

I.e Armarda series, the hologram girl thingy.

And it was Cup & Hotrod on the ocean floor in the original film.

So in my mind it would be totally possiable for them to get to their fallen comrades at the bottom of the ocean.

Humans have a limited knowlegde of Transformers, and I think its very silly to assume that they would be trapped at the bottom of the ocean forever.

And to the last post above, why did you quoted me???

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:00 pm

_Optimus Prime_ wrote:
autobot comander wrote:
_Optimus Prime_ wrote:Starscream take the lead once again, he recalls all Decepticons to retreat to their sea base, he also calls for the recovery of all the Decepticons dumped into the sea...

there is one problem with that, how will starscream get them out, remember that the presure is so great that starscream would even be able to get himselve out

As far as I know, Transformers do not have lungs, and I'm not sure as to the pressure limits of a Transformers endo-skeleton.

In other series including the original film, Transformers can be see on the ocean bed...

I.e Armarda series, the hologram girl thingy.

And it was Cup & Hotrod on the ocean floor in the original film.

So in my mind it would be totally possiable for them to get to their fallen comrades at the bottom of the ocean.

Humans have a limited knowlegde of Transformers, and I think its very silly to assume that they would be trapped at the bottom of the ocean forever.

And how do we know the Movie Transformers have the same limits as the Cartoon Transformers?

by **Auto Bot** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:17 am

At least jets needs oxygen. Megatron and Starscream shouldn't be able to fly or use their jet engine when underwater. But they can swim. It only takes a couple of weeks to swim to the top.

by **tdwang** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:54 am

i know that starscream isnt died, barricade could still be alive since the movie never said he died, scorponok probabbly wont be seen again. frenzy could also still be living, he survived with no body, i think he can survive without a head. :-?