First let me say welcome to Seibertron Judge.
judge wrote:Rodimus Prime had depth and Intrigue, he was crude, He represented the Raw and un-channeled Potential and Power within us all, the Ability to RISE UP FROM OUR RANKS, and to defeat even the greatest ODDS ("you can never give up when your backs to the wall...),
Rodimus Prime had depth and Intrigue???????Not in the cartoon.His character was not well written nor was it very consistant.In some episodes he was brave and willing to fight and in others he was willing to just give every thing up.Even the Matrix.We could never really get a good feel for just who his character was.
judge wrote:The only reason he was perceived so negatively is the fact that hasbro couldn't sell the toys, based on the fact that people could just not accept that Optimus is dead. The writers had to change their act quick smart, Instead of the truth, we were given nothing But lies as they episode by episode wrote down Rodimus as a character, and then Finally in the most incredibly lame fashion , Revived Optimus Prime in the episodes "The Return of Optimus Prime", we'll what happened then, apart from the Headmaster episodes we know of, It was the final nail in the coffin for the cartoon, At least in the western Part of the world.
Rodimus was perceived negatively because of bad writting.....poorly thought out scripts and inconsistant character protraial.
We see the character in the movie turn into the new leader, one that seems very confedent in the last few scenes of the film.
Next we see him in the first 5 episodes of seacon 3 [Five Faces of Darknes] acting a little unsure of himself but by the end of that story arc seems more confortable with his role as leader.
2 episodes later hes back as an unsure leader and willing to give up the tital in "Dark Awakening" but again by the end of the story he's back to being a strong leader.
He's character is fairly consistant as a compadent leader for the next 11 episodes till "The Ultimate Weapon" where he's full of doubt and speeking about quiting again....and again by the end of the episode he's back to being a again a strong leader thats sure of himself.
The next 6 episodes he's seems to be comfertable in his role but in "The Burden Hardest to Bear" he's back to crying about why he has to be the leader and even lets the Decepticon keep the Matrix and true to form by the end of the episode he again regains his faith in his leadership abilitys.
Rodimus is ok in the next episode but the one after that one "The Return of Optimus Prime" he is again whinning about being the leader by Optimus's statue.
The main reason he is so disliked has more to do with how his character was written and not that people couldnt let Optimes go.
judge wrote:The power of the chosen one was messed with and it is the end of the TV series, well looks like they should have focussed on making a Real attempt, well deservant of the New Leadership and wrote the heroics that Rodimus Prime deserves, and is known for. Anyone who disagrees, is only kidding themselves.
You may be right about that......they should have made a better attempt with Rodimus's character.His character was fairly well written in the G1 marvel U.K. comic books.
judge wrote:No one gave him a chance, I'm sure the autobot Orion Pax was a weakling as seen in the cartoon...Optimus Prime didn't just become Optimus Prime overnight, He had millions of years.
He had all of season 3 as a chance and he failed.The fact that his character is well liked from his comic book interpatation is proof of this.
judge wrote:Face it you know Rodimus is the True Leader selected by Optimus Prime himself,
The Matrix selected Hot Rod not Optimus.
judge wrote:Optimus knew from teh start that Hotrod was destined for greater things...
Where do you get that idea?The only thing he said to Hot Rod before the matrix changed him was "Get out of the way Hot Rod"
judge wrote:In this discussion and others I honestly believe the comic means absolutely nothing, there is just too many different publishers and too many biased writers, they quite frankly wouldn't know how to write a real story.
Interesting to see you say that because the comics were the only place that Rodimus was ever written in the way you view him.
Also it was comic books where Transformers made its first no-toy apperance and it was comic book writters that wrote the intire back story on the Transformers universe as well as all of the Tec Spec bio's that were on all of the toy box'es of the first 4 years of the toyline.
judge wrote:The cartoon, and in some cases the toys are the only true form of Genration 1 transformers,
With out the comic book writters none of the characters you know and love incluiding Rodimus Prime would be the same.
judge wrote:Shame cause Optimus did choose Rodimus,
cause the Matrix Only opened for him, and there are several other indicators too.
Can you site some of those indicators that show it was Optimus and not the Matrix that choose Rodimus?
judge wrote:And the fact is dirty or not Optimus had two seasons to kill Megatron, But didn't
And Rodimus had a full season to grow up and be a leader but he didnt.It was so bad that they had to bring Optimus back to life just to save everyone with something Rodimus had in his chest.How incompadent is that?
Here watch this vid.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y
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