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News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:12 am

A couple of questions about the use of die-cast in post-movie G1.

1) Why, when they changed Hot Rod's metal feet to black plastic for the Targetmaster version, didn't they change Kup's torso for his Targetmaster version as well?

2) How many post-movie toys actually used die-cast? I'm aware of Hot Rod and Kup. Were there any others? Why not Blurr?

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:30 am

Only one I can think of is Ultra Magnus in the other metal using post movie toys.

News Credits: 1 · by **JetfireUK** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:42 am

Didn't Kup also have a variant with steel or plastic rear wheels?

As for other figures - the combining teams around 1986 had either plastic or diecast variants.
Springer has a diecast chest
Sandstorm has diecast feet
Predaking has diecast in his component figures
Reflector too

After that I think that all figures were virtually all-plastic.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:48 am

I had forgotten about Magnus and Predaking. I didn't know about Springer or Sandstorm. Reflector wasn't a post-movie toy, though, was he?

News Credits: 1 · by **JetfireUK** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:51 am

Leonardo wrote:Reflector wasn't a post-movie toy, though, was he?

I thought that he was a mail away figure during 86-87. Could be wrong though.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:54 am

JetfireUK wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Reflector wasn't a post-movie toy, though, was he?

I thought that he was a mail away figure during 86-87. Could be wrong though.

Yes, he was. I was thinking of something else, sorry.

by **YouFearGalvatron** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:28 am

Leonardo wrote:A couple of questions about the use of die-cast in post-movie G1.

1) Why, when they changed Hot Rod's metal feet to black plastic for the Targetmaster version, didn't they change Kup's torso for his Targetmaster version as well?

2) How many post-movie toys actually used die-cast? I'm aware of Hot Rod and Kup. Were there any others? Why not Blurr?

The mid/late 80s. Good times to ge a Transformers fan. lol

I also add Metroplex to your list. I have the plastic version, but their is supposed to be another variant with plastic tires (mine has rubber) that has diecast wheels/rims.

I also know that Fort Max has some diecast. My Brave Maximus reissue does, anyway.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:35 am

Kup's rear wheels were diecast, Hot Rod's feet. Metroplex's wheels were not metal in the Japanese version, only hard plastic with rubber desert dog tires. Eventually, they all went plastic post movie. Same with the casseticons (Rumble and Frenzy's feet)

In Fortress Maximus' case, his chest plate (for the central tower) and the left leg that mounted his gun batteries were diecast (and prone to chipping) :MAD:

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:39 am

I had a KayBee magnus, which was only metal cab the rest was plastic and unpainted

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:12 pm

Exulted Unicron wrote:I had a KayBee magnus, which was only metal cab the rest was plastic and unpainted

That was the only metal bit on any Magnus, wasn't it? Apart from the wheels, but if you had a metal cab surely you'd have had metal wheels.

News Credits: 1 · by **JetfireUK** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:16 pm

Not true.

My original Ultra Magnus had the diecast cab and feet, but the rest of the figure was plastic. The wheels were all plastic and the cab robot's face was all white - unlike the TRU re-issue.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:20 pm

JetfireUK wrote:Not true.

My original Ultra Magnus had the diecast cab and feet, but the rest of the figure was plastic. The wheels were all plastic and the cab robot's face was all white - unlike the TRU re-issue.

Intriguing. Mine's got a metal cab with metal wheels and the rest is plastic. And unpainted. It's not a reissue.

News Credits: 1 · by **JetfireUK** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:22 pm

That's another figure to add to the variation list. :???:

Personally I didn't like my unpainted and plastic wheeled original so I sold it and got the TRU re-issue.

I know that I sold out

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:27 pm

I would do that if I could find a TRU reissue to replace the one I have. And if, you know, I could be bothered.

The thing with the TRU reissue is, even though it's got a painted face which looks lots better, it has those long red missiles. Maybe I could buy it and use the original ones.

by **ShockwaveUK** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:34 pm

The following had die-cast [or at least variants of them did]:
Ultra Magnus,
Hot Rod,
Blurr,
Kup,
Wreck-Gar,
Springer,
Broadside,
Sandstorm,
Slingshot,
Skydive,
Airraid,
Fireflight,
Hotspot,
First Aid,
Groove,
Blades,
Streetwise,
Ramhorn,
Steeljaw,
Galvatron,
Scourge,
Octane,
Cyclonus,
Predacons,
Dead end,
Dragstrip,
Breakdown,
Wildrider,
Onslaught,
Brawl,
Swindle,
Blastoff,
Vortex.
There may be others but all these did have die-cast AFAIK.