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Hmmm... I think Sixshot could win this one. He's got the strength, speed, firepower and skill, but the Dinobots are all tough nuts to crack.

If the Dinobots managed to pin Sixy down, then he's done for. Also, if the Dinobots manage to work together well, they have a very good chance.

I think it comes down to how intelligent Sixshot is. If he can come up with a good game plan, then I believe he can defeat the Dinobots.

Am i the only one who thinks maybe Grimlock can do this on his own?

Outburst wrote:Am i the only one who thinks maybe Grimlock can do this on his own?

No.

well, shockwave alone can take on all the dinobots. grimlock is tough, but if seems if you go by anything furman has written, megatron, prime and shockwave are a class above anything. i thnk sixshot if pretty close to being in the commander class, so i dont think grimlock has a big chance against him alone.

together i think they can do alot of damage, but i dont know if they can win. seeing shockwave manhandle them in his spotlight issue, and then seeing how dangerous sixshot is in his makes me doubt that they can win. ill vote sixshot, maybe 7-8/10.

Depends on the situation of the Dinobots, here's rundown of how I think it could go down:

- Dynobots: Sixshot
- Regular G1 Dinobots: Sixshot
- Actionmaster Dinobots: Sixshot
- G2 Dinobots: Dinobots


So, I guess that Sixshot can take them unless they are in their juiced up G2 forms.

- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

unique_username wrote:well, shockwave alone can take on all the dinobots. grimlock is tough, but if seems if you go by anything furman has written, megatron, prime and shockwave are a class above anything. i thnk sixshot if pretty close to being in the commander class, so i dont think grimlock has a big chance against him alone.

together i think they can do alot of damage, but i dont know if they can win. seeing shockwave manhandle them in his spotlight issue, and then seeing how dangerous sixshot is in his makes me doubt that they can win. ill vote sixshot, maybe 7-8/10.

Furman was quite a big Grimlock fan as well, how many stories revolved around him, especially Uk ones. There also seems to be a discrepancy between Grimlock pre Shockwave fight and the one after. Post Shockwave Grimlock was much more powerful and self assured, he was made Autobot leader remember, twice. And one of those times was by Optimus Prime himself. Im still giving this to the Dinobots - easily! If grimlock can't quite do it himself the addition of any of the others is more than enough.

I don't care what continuity you want to angle this from...Dinobots would take down Sixshot.

-I'm thinking Sixshot can take UltramMagnus with little trouble. How did Magnus hold up in th comics?
-I think Grimlock is considered a match for Megatron, Prime, and UltraMagnus (having beat a furman Galvatron once)

Having said that and noticing how the dinobots fight evenly with gestalts while the other three seemingly can take a gestalt single handedly, leaves me wondering just how far Grimlocks steller fighting prowess, Prime-like Strength and unbeleivable endurance can take him.


Outburst maybe onto something. Grimlock may have been built even stronger on earth, but that kinda betrays his perfomance against the likes of Devestator.

Sixshot has little trouble with Gestalts. The dinobots seem to trade hits with combiners. Perhaps the speed difference seperates Grimlock from the leader tier...

Sixshot can take out a combiner he can take out the Dinobots. His first target would likely be the strongest, Grimlock. Even if Grimlock is only momentarily out of the fight, the multichanger would monopolize on the following chaos of Slag wanting to lead and swoop being the the smartest tacticly though weakest physicaly. Slugde is too big, slow, and dumb to be considered a credible threat, and Snarl needs the sun to hold his own.

Sixshot would not fight in unfavorable conditions unless he felt he could over come it. Also, his body was made by Shockwave, someone who beat the entire dinobot team, and ment to be his perfect soldier.

I'm going with Stormwolf's assesment

Don't forget Sixshots holograms of himself would pretty much make it one on one with an extra Sixshot. And he has increadable speed when fighting, transforming so often is sure to confuse the simple minded Dinobots. So I vote Sixshot.

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Dinobots will win the battle.

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Yes. Non-canon. War Within (?)

MercilessOne wrote:

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Yes. Non-canon. War Within (?)

Beast within

tequila stu wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Yes. Non-canon. War Within (?)

Beast within

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Yes. Non-canon. War Within (?)

Beast within

I now accept all forms of humility.

tequila stu wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

Snarlus Prime wrote:

MercilessOne wrote:

tequila stu wrote:- non-cannon beast within dinobots - Dinobots

Well duh

The Beast ripped Menasor in half. And that was after he killed Predaking, Bruticus, Devastator AND the Seekers.

? Is this in a comic? I'm very curious so please elaborate - thanks!

I say that sixshot would win (which saddens me) - but that it wouldn't be a very easy fight. He's just to fast for the dinobots.....

Yes. Non-canon. War Within (?)

Beast within

I now accept all forms of humility.

Beast Within, War Within, People Within.. gaahhhhhh.

I get lost, you know?

This is rubbish. Heck, Grimlock could probably kill Six Shot on his own. The power levels of Transformers across continuities is so confusing, especially how they seem to downplay the Dinobots strength in the various comics.

megrimlock wrote:This is rubbish. Heck, Grimlock could probably kill Six Shot on his own. The power levels of Transformers across continuities is so confusing, especially how they seem to downplay the Dinobots strength in the various comics.

What he said.
And what i said earlier

I would also like to add that Grimlock rates higher than SixShot in multiple categories, according to the tech specs (Stength, Intelligence, Speed, Endurance, Rank, Courage, Firepower, and Skill)

Sixshot comes in at 10, 9, 4, 9, 7, 8, 9, 8.

Grimlock comes in at 10, 7, 3, 10, 9, 10, 8, 10

Grimlock has equal strength, greater skill, courage, and endurance.

you cant go by tech specs, their always highly inaccurate. for example, tarantulas in beast wars has listed in his tech specs that his intelligence is 4. thats even lower than scorponok, waspinator and terrorsaur. tarantuals was shown on multiple occasions outsmarting even megatron, who was very intelligent. it also lists dinobots skill as 6 and cheetors as 7, and there is no way cheetor is as skilled as dinobot at the start of beast wars.

i think its pretty well known that they accidentally swapped starscream and sky warps original tech specs, so up until very recently whenever something showing them came along it had skywarps speed skill firepower and intelligence higher than starscreams. i always like comparing tech specs, but at the end of the day their pretty meaningless. in the end you have to go by how characters are portrayed in different things.

unique_username wrote:you cant go by tech specs, their always highly inaccurate. for example, tarantulas in beast wars has listed in his tech specs that his intelligence is 4. thats even lower than scorponok, waspinator and terrorsaur. tarantuals was shown on multiple occasions outsmarting even megatron, who was very intelligent. it also lists dinobots skill as 6 and cheetors as 7, and there is no way cheetor is as skilled as dinobot at the start of beast wars.

i think its pretty well known that they accidentally swapped starscream and sky warps original tech specs, so up until very recently whenever something showing them came along it had skywarps speed skill firepower and intelligence higher than starscreams. i always like comparing tech specs, but at the end of the day their pretty meaningless. in the end you have to go by how characters are portrayed in different things.

I think the tech specs are messed up!

Sixshot would prawn the Dinobots the same way he prawned the Aerialbots in The Rebirth, and Ultra Magnus in Headmasters.

(no prawns were injured in the making of this reply )