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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:14 am

Lord~Megatron wrote:
Viral wrote:You didn't even address anything I said. But, I'm a call your bluff. Tell, what show had better writing? A better plot? Better visual art? Better pacing? More memorable characters?

Yeah g1 had to many characters and the animatrion was very simple. But if people liked it so much why did it get CANCELED LOL TAKE THAT G1 FAN CANCELED. Well i liked beast wars becuase they were animals and had a smaller character list. There were about what 7 on each side at the end of the serries. Still beastwars was the best transformers ever in my opinion. I like how this new serries is coming from with alot of beastwars influnce. Still i will like this serries and i tell every one else to give it a chance. Also dont complain the animation is to simple G1 was more simple that that. Also the fact the tvs back then made it look worse. :grin: have a nice day


Yes, IN YOUR OPINION, so stop flaming others who have a differing one.
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:49 pm

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Double posting, ftl. Also, your "spacing every other sentence" thing is making it hard to even follow you, guy.

YouFearGalvatron wrote:
I never said G1 had any better writing, etc. Again you assume.


Who said anything about G1?

I just said I hated BW.


And then I asked you why, and 2 days later, youstill haven't stated why. Whats the problem?

Now put your manners back in or I will get a modernator involved.


What are you, 12? Get one. I've done nothing wrong. Can't take the heat, get out the kitchen.


Who are you to determine who is a "real" fan?


My opinion. Ignore it if you have a problem with it, and move on.

How about the kid that could not afford TFs as a kid? He has a collection of 0? Is he not a fan?



I don't own a single Transformers toy. Having one doesn't make you anymore of a fan than the next guy. So what's your point?

What about someone who read the comics, liked them, but did not care for anything else? I he still a fan in your Almighty eyes?


Eh, you're just getting trivial now, and not making any sense while your at it.

Who are to to decide who is a fan if they do not like a particular series, such as Beast Wars?


Again, "fandom" isn't in question here. I asked why you didn't like Beast Wars.

You know nothing son. I have been following Transformers for the better part of a quarter century. I was there when it started, back when I still drooled and wore diapers. I knew nothing at the time but that I liked them.


That's nice to know.

Again, put your manners back in or I will get ugly.


Too late.
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:59 pm

Viral wrote:Double posting, ftl. Also, your "spacing every other sentence" thing is making it hard to even follow you, guy.

YouFearGalvatron wrote:
I never said G1 had any better writing, etc. Again you assume.


Who said anything about G1?

I just said I hated BW.


And then I asked you why, and 2 days later, youstill haven't stated why. Whats the problem?

Now put your manners back in or I will get a modernator involved.


What are you, 12? Get one. I've done nothing wrong. Can't take the heat, get out the kitchen.


Who are you to determine who is a "real" fan?


My opinion. Ignore it if you have a problem with it, and move on.

How about the kid that could not afford TFs as a kid? He has a collection of 0? Is he not a fan?



I don't own a single Transformers toy. Having one doesn't make you anymore of a fan than the next guy. So what's your point?

What about someone who read the comics, liked them, but did not care for anything else? I he still a fan in your Almighty eyes?


Eh, you're just getting trivial now, and not making any sense while your at it.

Who are to to decide who is a fan if they do not like a particular series, such as Beast Wars?


Again, "fandom" isn't in question here. I asked why you didn't like Beast Wars.

You know nothing son. I have been following Transformers for the better part of a quarter century. I was there when it started, back when I still drooled and wore diapers. I knew nothing at the time but that I liked them.


That's nice to know.

Again, put your manners back in or I will get ugly.


Too late.


I have no problem answering your question as to why I do not like Beast Wars: The whole bio-mechanical thing just does not make sense to me. To elaborate, how do the cells of their animal bodies which surround them get nourishment. i know Rhinox eats those fruits and flatulates (How tasteful), but this is never addressed and it always bothered me.

Also, Cheetor. I think he sucks. badly.

Everything he does sucks, IMHO.

Now that I have answered your question, stop flaming or I will get a mod involved.

Just because someone disagrees does not entitle YOU to flame them. If you don't like THAT, then YOU get out of the kitchen.

/End rant.
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:03 pm

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YouFearGalvatron wrote:I have no problem answering your question as to why I do not like Beast Wars: The whole bio-mechanical thing just does not make sense to me. To elaborate, how do the cells of their animal bodies which surround them get nourishment. i know Rhinox eats those fruits and flatulates (How tasteful), but this is never addressed and it always bothered me.

Also, Cheetor. I think he sucks. badly.

Everything he does sucks, IMHO.

Now that I have answered your question, stop flaming or I will get a mod involved.

Just because someone disagrees does not entitle YOU to flame them. If you don't like THAT, then YOU get out of the kitchen.

/End rant.


No one's "flaming" you. Like I said, get a mod. And *yawn* at those reasons for not liking the best series Transformers has seen. Seriously, very weak stuff there.
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:10 pm

Viral wrote:
YouFearGalvatron wrote:I have no problem answering your question as to why I do not like Beast Wars: The whole bio-mechanical thing just does not make sense to me. To elaborate, how do the cells of their animal bodies which surround them get nourishment. i know Rhinox eats those fruits and flatulates (How tasteful), but this is never addressed and it always bothered me.

Also, Cheetor. I think he sucks. badly.

Everything he does sucks, IMHO.

Now that I have answered your question, stop flaming or I will get a mod involved.

Just because someone disagrees does not entitle YOU to flame them. If you don't like THAT, then YOU get out of the kitchen.

/End rant.


No one's "flaming" you. Like I said, get a mod. And *yawn* at those reasons for not liking the best series Transformers has seen. Seriously, very weak stuff there.


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Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:56 pm

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YouFearGalvatron wrote:Your wish is my command.


And his command is my call to duty.

Viral, if you and YouFearGalvatron have a problem, please take it off the board. Doing it here does little but detrail the thread and bring out the wrath of those with the capability to do much worse than I can.
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:01 pm

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Eh, I don't have any outright "problem" with anyone.

If he chooses to slam this series, and whatever else, then he should expect someone to step up, and defend it. Running off to whatever mod on duty, because someone questioned his obviously deluded views on said subject is not my problem, nor is it yours.

It should be expected, at a discussion board, where people are supposed to engage in discussions, is what I'm saying. I didn't attack him, so I've done nothing "wrong", ergo you're wasting your time Bombshell on a situation in which the presence of a Moderator is not needed.
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:19 pm

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Actually, by giving the thread a quick skim, I would like to suggest that my presence is needed more so than you would like to think.

As you say, SEIBERTRON is a discussion board. People are free to have their own opinions about things on whatever you want. Nobody's forcing you to agree or to disagree, and if anyone chooses to believe that someone is in fact doing so, you have two real options there: ignore it, or continue to hash out the argument.

Now, personally, I have no problem if you want to do that. As part of the staff, however, I have to tell you that if that's the route you want to go, then takinng it to Private Messages and off the board is really the only option you have. Doing it in a public way like this is neither good for none of us.
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Postby Neko » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:26 pm

Just to add this in:

Blatantly ignoring a warning from a mod is a clear violation and will result in an official warning.

Discussion is the main objective of our forums, however; if someone is hindering the experience or ability to dicsuss comfortably/confidently then we have a problem.

As it stands, you've been verbally warned to take you arguments to the PMs. If you ignore this warning, further disciplinary actions will be initiated.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:29 pm

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Viral wrote:Eh, I don't have any outright "problem" with anyone.

If he chooses to slam this series, and whatever else, then he should expect someone to step up, and defend it. Running off to whatever mod on duty, because someone questioned his obviously deluded views on said subject is not my problem, nor is it yours.

It should be expected, at a discussion board, where people are supposed to engage in discussions, is what I'm saying. I didn't attack him, so I've done nothing "wrong", ergo you're wasting your time Bombshell on a situation in which the presence of a Moderator is not needed.


http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewto ... =9614&sid=

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If a moderator/administrator has to step in and hand out warnings/bans or other disciplines adhere to their wishes. Do not treat the warning as grounds for a personal vendetta. Warnings are carefully thought out, and flaming, bating or harassing a staff member because of it will only lead to a harsher reprimand.


Nuff said.

Neko wrote:If you ignore this warning, further disciplinary actions will be initiated.


That's when I step in.
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:30 pm

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So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?

I really don't understand what you're getting at.

I'm sure he PM you, and cried about how "Viral is attacking me!" and whatever else, but there's really nothing going on here, but a conversation, where one person feels threaten by another, because I'm voicing my difference of opinion.

But, if you'd like to start censoring topic discussions, because someone "summoned" you, then be my guest.

EDIT: And I've done nothing listed. No ones flamed, or attacked anyone.

EDIT: I see. No use in discussing this further then, right? I suppose I'll just ignore this, and utilize this siutation when it occurs again. Next time I have a differing view on a subject, I'll just PM whatever Mod/Admin is on at the time? That's fine with me.
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:34 pm

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Viral wrote:So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?


You can disagree. No one's saying you don't have that right. What we're saying is to not let it get this out of hand, to the point where it derails the entire thread and we Moderators have to intervene. If it gets to that, you really should consider taking the discussion to private messages instead of continuing to go on about it here.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:34 pm

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Viral wrote:So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?

I really don't understand what you're getting at.

I'm sure he PM you, and cried about how "Viral is attacking me!" and whatever else, but there's really nothing going on here, but a conversation, where one person feels threaten by another, because I'm voicing my difference of opinion.

But, if you'd like to start censoring topic discussions, because someone "summoned" you, then be my guest.

EDIT: And I've done nothing listed. No ones flamed, or attacked anyone.


Stating an opinion if fine BUT comments like this

You know nothing son.


And

Again, put your manners back in or I will get ugly.


Seems less like an "opinion" and more like baiting or flaming.

Darth Bombshell wrote:
Viral wrote:So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?


You can disagree. No one's saying you don't have that right. What we're saying is to not let it get this out of hand, to the point where it derails the entire thread. If it gets to that, you really should consider taking the discussion to private messages instead of continuing to go on about it here.


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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:35 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:
Viral wrote:So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?

I really don't understand what you're getting at.

I'm sure he PM you, and cried about how "Viral is attacking me!" and whatever else, but there's really nothing going on here, but a conversation, where one person feels threaten by another, because I'm voicing my difference of opinion.

But, if you'd like to start censoring topic discussions, because someone "summoned" you, then be my guest.

EDIT: And I've done nothing listed. No ones flamed, or attacked anyone.


Stating an opinion if fine BUT comments like this

You know nothing son.


And

Again, put your manners back in or I will get ugly.


Seems less like an "opinion" and more like baiting or flaming.

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Viral wrote:So, what am I (or anyone else) supposed to do each time someone states an opinion concerning a subject? Proceed to PM them with our differences of opinions?


You can disagree. No one's saying you don't have that right. What we're saying is to not let it get this out of hand, to the point where it derails the entire thread. If it gets to that, you really should consider taking the discussion to private messages instead of continuing to go on about it here.


Well said.


And both of those said quotes were from HIM, and not I.
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:38 pm

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Viral wrote:And both of those said quotes were from HIM, and not I.


Yes, but the fact that you chose to respond to them in the manner you did only aggravates the situation.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:40 pm

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Crap.. I copied the text from a Pm to this thread (I have 6 tabs open right now in firefox)..
:oops:

DB is right, if something seems to escalate then try taking it to the pm's over making a long drawn out pissing match on the board.
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Postby Night~GONE » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:43 pm

WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:44 pm

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Lord~Megatron wrote:WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!



It has been tense like this for the past couple of days..
So many opinions clashing..
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:45 pm

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Darth Bombshell wrote:
Viral wrote:And both of those said quotes were from HIM, and not I.


Yes, but the fact that you chose to respond to them in the manner you did only aggravates the situation.


Again, I never stooped to his level, and attacked him personally, even with what he said to me. Yet, he went, and got you, and I get the warning, as if he was the innocent party. I mean, it's cool 'n all. I'll just take my warning, and lick my mis-earned wounds.

Btw, Is it because I have the lower post count, that I get the reprimand?

Cyber Bishop - I'd love for this thread to get back on topic, but that's where the problem lays. Do I just like, exempt myself from replying to the next person who jumps in the thread, saying "THIS SUCKS!", or "THEY LOOOK DUMMB!", or something? And if I'm out of line with a reply of some kind, wouldn't that thus make what they posted flamebait? Therefore making them liable for Warnings?
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Postby Neko » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:45 pm

Lord~Megatron wrote:WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know we have a problem when Megatron's the voice of reason. :lol:
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Postby Night~GONE » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:46 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Lord~Megatron wrote:WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!



It has been tense like this for the past couple of days..
So many opinions clashing..

Ok people who are tense just calm down and watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=7JX-Bx0BETQ
Also cyber bishop i like your sig he is my favorite street fighter character.
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:48 pm

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Lord~Megatron wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Lord~Megatron wrote:WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!



It has been tense like this for the past couple of days..
So many opinions clashing..

Ok people who are tense just calm down and watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=7JX-Bx0BETQ
Also cyber bishop i like your sig he is my favorite street fighter character.


Haha. I'm calm. I'm not "upset" or anything. I'm just trying to come to an understanding here, with the Staff. This problem has arisen before, and it just needs to be ironed out before any of us can really move on.
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:50 pm

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Viral wrote:Is it because I have the lower post count, that I get the reprimand?


No, it's because you're continuing to argue with the moderators over the issue, which isn't exactly casting you in the best light.

Now, YouFearGalvatron is not innocent in this manner. Looking at the posts in the thread between the two of you, that's all but obvious. But unlike him, you're choosing to continue the argument, especially after the moderators have both been contacted, and told both of you how to handle the situation the way it really should be dealt with.

So right now, the way I see it, you could either do that, or continue this and have things turn out badly for all involved.
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Postby Night~GONE » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:50 pm

Neko wrote:
Lord~Megatron wrote:WHY CANT WE ALL JUST LOVE EACHOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY (ROFL) WATCH A NUMA VIDEO PEOPLE WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know we have a problem when Megatron's the voice of reason. :lol:

I have become less evil scence i killed prime. :D
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Postby Spazicon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:54 pm

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Darth Bombshell wrote:So right now, the way I see it, you could either do that, or continue this and have things turn out badly for all involved.


No. I'm done. If this discussion is detrimental to my involvement here on the forums, then I choose not to participate in it any further.

For the record, my intent wasn't to "argue" with anyone of you (mods/admins). And I'm sorry if that's how you viewed it. Never was my intention.
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