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How many episodes are there in season 4? I recently saw Revival on youtube but it was the only episode on there(great ep by the way!)

thanks

That's it, actually. The three parts of "The Rebirth" is all of Season 4.

Silverado Bot wrote:How many episodes are there in season 4? I recently saw Revival on youtube but it was the only episode on there(great ep by the way!)

thanks

I think the entire American Headmasters arc - The Rebirth - was considered season 4. It was a 3-part storyline aired as G1 episodes 96 through 98.

Oh, wow so that was it. no wonder it was such a good episode

The Rebirth itself was Season 4.

Deadpool. wrote:The Rebirth itself was Season 4.

which was totally disregarded by the japanese, and the headmaster concept was redone in 'Transformers: Headmasters'

Silverado Bot wrote:How many episodes are there in season 4? I recently saw Revival on youtube but it was the only episode on there(great ep by the way!)

thanks

Revival???????/ Never heard of it.......Season 4 consisted of a 3 part story called "the Rebirth" and unfortunatley that was it.The show was canceled.

The Japanese didnt like the U.S. concept for the Headmasters and went on to create there owen Headmasters show with had two other sequels.....Transformers Masterforce and Transformers Victory.There was also a one episode series called Transformers Zone.

My take on the Rebirth:

Too much crammed into 3 episodes and poor Akom animation hinders what could have been a GREAT 4th season.

The basic storyline and plot was good enough but should have had more time(episodes) to grow ending with the big showdown on Cybertron with Scorponok and Fortress Maximus. The Quintessons were also strangely absent from this series, they might've been worked in the story at some point for good measure. A better look at the back-story of the Nebulons and their war against Lord Zarak would have been nice as well. It all could have been stretched out and tightened up for the better.

It could have made for a good 25-35 episode series.
When I think of the Rebirth I think of what it COULD have been sadly enough. The Rebirth is not a bad 3-part arc by any stretch, it just could've been MUCH better if it had been allowed to grow.....and uh....Toei did the animation.

Just my opinion anyway.

iron maniac wrote:My take on the Rebirth:

Too much crammed into 3 episodes and poor Akom animation hinders what could have been a GREAT 4th season.

The basic storyline and plot was good enough but should have had more time(episodes) to grow ending with the big showdown on Cybertron with Scorponok and Fortress Maximus. The Quintessons were also strangely absent from this series, they might've been worked in the story at some point for good measure. A better look at the back-story of the Nebulons and their war against Lord Zarak would have been nice as well. It all could have been stretched out and tightened up for the better.

It could have made for a good 25-35 episode series.
When I think of the Rebirth I think of what it COULD have been sadly enough. The Rebirth is not a bad 3-part arc by any stretch, it just could've been MUCH better if it had been allowed to grow.....and uh....Toei did the animation.

Just my opinion anyway.

Well its a little knowen fact the "The Rebirth" was oriinaly ment to be a 5 part episode and was for all intent and perposuses a pilot for a new series that was intended to focus more on Nebulos.

One of the reasons that they shortened it was because most of the TV networks that ran Transfornmers in the U.S. had already canceled their contracts for airring Transformers before "The Return of Optimus Prime" aired and Hasbro felt that if it wasnt going to be aired in all of its markets they should shorten the shows lenght to save on production cost..Some of the Networks didnt even air "The Rebirth" and the one's that did ran the episodes at weird time slots.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well its a little knowen fact the "The Rebirth" was oriinaly ment to be a 5 part episode and was for all intent and perposuses a pilot for a new series that was intended to focus more on Nebulos.

One of the reasons that they shortened it was because most of the TV networks that ran Transfornmers in the U.S. had already canceled their contracts for airring Transformers before "The Return of Optimus Prime" aired and Hasbro felt that if it wasnt going to be aired in all of its markets they should shorten the shows lenght to save on production cost..Some of the Networks didnt even air "The Rebirth" and the one's that did ran the episodes at weird time slots.

Right, I remember it all too well. Transformers was exiled to a 7:30 AM timeslot by then.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles replaced Transformers former time-slot in the afternoon(at least in my area anyway).

Transformers popularity was waning like you said, it seemed like kids were embracing the Turtles and forgot all about the Transformers. It was sad to watch it happen.

iron maniac wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well its a little knowen fact the "The Rebirth" was oriinaly ment to be a 5 part episode and was for all intent and perposuses a pilot for a new series that was intended to focus more on Nebulos.

One of the reasons that they shortened it was because most of the TV networks that ran Transfornmers in the U.S. had already canceled their contracts for airring Transformers before "The Return of Optimus Prime" aired and Hasbro felt that if it wasnt going to be aired in all of its markets they should shorten the shows lenght to save on production cost..Some of the Networks didnt even air "The Rebirth" and the one's that did ran the episodes at weird time slots.

Right, I remember it all too well. Transformers was exiled to a 7:30 AM timeslot by then.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles replaced Transformers former time-slot in the afternoon(at least in my area anyway).

Transformers popularity was waning like you said, it seemed like kids were embracing the Turtles and forgot all about the Transformers. It was sad to watch it happen.

In my area they ran "the Rebirth" episodes at 6:30 am on Sunday morning. But yes by that point the Transformers toon was already dead.It was a shame.

I really like the Rebirth 3-parter. I can see how it was probably a 5parter originally, but don't think being cut down much hinders it really. There's a pretty good pace right through it, and not much I felt needed explained or expanded. It could perhaps be questioned how Galvatron and his guys a) launch a full-scale assault on Autobot City and everyone makes it out alive, and b) why, if he's capable of conquering Cybertron in what seems like half an hour, he hasn't done so at any point during the last season, but I always put all that down to him seeming to be a lot more sane (in Galvatron terms anyway) after Optimus Prime came back.
Episode 3 ends with a really cool Zarak/Galvatron face-off, and it would have been cool to see that play out over the course of a season. There's also quite a few moments of badassery from a number of Autobots.

I agree, Lord Zarak would have made for an EXCELLENT nemesis for Galvatron. I could see them fighting and bickering for total command of the decepticons in every episode. Kinda like a more competent Starscream.
I was really looking forward to more episodes and was so disappointed when it was obvious there was no more coming.

I was even more let-down years later after watching the Japanese Headmasters series. I went in with such high expectations and by the final episode I was like "what the hell did I just watch?"

iron maniac wrote:I agree, Lord Zarak would have made for an EXCELLENT nemesis for Galvatron. I could see them fighting and bickering for total command of the decepticons in every episode. Kinda like a more competent Starscream.
I was really looking forward to more episodes and was so disappointed when it was obvious there was no more coming.

I was even more let-down years later after watching the Japanese Headmasters series. I went in with such high expectations and by the final episode I was like "what the hell did I just watch?"

you, me and the rest of the world! i think thats probably dur to the fact that in rebirth the characters and premises had been set, and the japanese threw them out the window!

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote: But yes by that point the Transformers toon was already dead.It was a shame.

Thankfully, i wasn't alive to see it dying out.

I don't know about you guys, but I never even considered it had "died out". I had so much Transformers stuff on VHS and a big box of toys so it was always with me, if they played the odd episode on TV that was just a bonus. It really didn't matter to me that G1 episodes were out of production.

Rebirth was supose to be 4 episodes actualy but it kept getting cut down. They talk about in one of the special features in the Rhino box set.

Liege Evilmus wrote:Rebirth was supose to be 4 episodes actualy but it kept getting cut down. They talk about in one of the special features in the Rhino box set.

Yes they do and their speeking with David Wise....the writter of Reborth....but he goes from saying that it was ment to be a 5 parter to a f parter in the same statment so its hard to tell just where he made his mistake about how mane episodes it was ment to be.