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Something of a discussion starter. This is what Trypticon's packaging might look like, if he ever comes to fruition. Pay no mind to the purple Autobot symbol on the Thrilling 30 symbol and the Fall of Cybertron Starscream jet mode in place of where the vehicle mode image would normally be.



Do want? Do want.

Charming.

But I'd personally rather prefer a Supreme class Trypticon since Metroplex now dwarfs him, while Omega Supreme seems to be Trypticon's new rival.

I'd take a Titan Trypticon any day! I don't care if his box looks like that. He could be packed in brown corrugated cardboard for all I care so long as the toy is awesome.

Sabrblade wrote:Charming.

But I'd personally rather prefer a Supreme class Trypticon since Metroplex now dwarfs him, while Omega Supreme seems to be Trypticon's new rival.

Trypticon was measurably scaled up in size from WfC in FoC when you look at how he was Transformed in to the Nemesis. You can see this by Trypticon to Nemesis & then Nemesis to the Arc and finally the Arc to Metroplex. This is due to continuity errors, (plural). What I've learned from being a fan of anything is that some continuity errors are done to effectively retcon/correct "poor" past decisions, while, others are done just because no one bothered to pay attention.

Tronus_Rex wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Charming.

But I'd personally rather prefer a Supreme class Trypticon since Metroplex now dwarfs him, while Omega Supreme seems to be Trypticon's new rival.

Trypticon was measurably scaled up in size from WfC in FoC when you look at how he was Transformed in to the Nemesis. You can see this by Trypticon to Nemesis & then Nemesis to the Arc and finally the Arc to Metroplex. This is due to continuity errors, (plural). What I've learned from being a fan of anything is that some continuity errors are done to effectively retcon/correct "poor" past decisions, while, others are done just because no one bothered to pay attention.

In most shots of the Ark (not "Arc") and Nemesis next to each other, the Ark is much much bigger than the Nemesis, and Metroplex was closer to the Ark's size.

Not to mention how the folks at High Moon Studios have gone on record several time stating that FOC Metroplex is far far bigger than Trypticon and Omega Supreme.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tronus_Rex wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Charming.

But I'd personally rather prefer a Supreme class Trypticon since Metroplex now dwarfs him, while Omega Supreme seems to be Trypticon's new rival.

Trypticon was measurably scaled up in size from WfC in FoC when you look at how he was Transformed in to the Nemesis. You can see this by Trypticon to Nemesis & then Nemesis to the Arc and finally the Arc to Metroplex. This is due to continuity errors, (plural). What I've learned from being a fan of anything is that some continuity errors are done to effectively retcon/correct "poor" past decisions, while, others are done just because no one bothered to pay attention.

In most shots of the Ark (not "Arc") and Nemesis next to each other, the Ark is much much bigger than the Nemesis, and Metroplex was closer to the Ark's size.

Not to mention how the folks at High Moon Studios have gone on record several time stating that FOC Metroplex is far far bigger than Trypticon and Omega Supreme.

Okay, then I'm just misinterpreting the perspective of the screen captures I'm using as my reference.

Then another thing that could be done: "Transformers Exiles of Cybertron" , (very likely title) could see Shockwave (or a possible Galvatron minion) remove Tryps Spark & core Processor from the Nemesis to give birth to a new up-scaled Trypticon . Then they can introduce a story about the 'bots bringing Metroplex to earth either whole or in pieces for reassembly.

But, yes, a toy from WfC would then be warranted ^^

Also the game needs a joke about a Michael Bay facsimile being using real transformers to make a film and then blowing himself up. Funny thing is that Bay has enough of a sense of humor you'd likely get him to even voice the character too

Tronus_Rex wrote:Then another thing that could be done: "Transformers Exiles of Cybertron" , (very likely title) could see Shockwave (or a possible Galvatron minion) remove Tryps Spark & core Processor from the Nemesis to give birth to a new up-scaled Trypticon . Then they can introduce a story about the 'bots bringing Metroplex to earth either whole or in pieces for reassembly.

But Shockwave stayed behind on Cybertron when the Nemesis left.

And, to be frank, relocating Metroplex to Earth and the Cons building another Trypticon seems like more trouble than it's worth since Metroplex wasn't really needed on Earth and there's already a Trypticon on Earth as the Nemesis.

There's also the notion that, well, the Bots and Cons actually have to get to Earth first since they don't go there immediately after leaving Cybertron.

Giant robot dinosaurs? Sign me up

Sabrblade wrote:

Tronus_Rex wrote:Then another thing that could be done: "Transformers Exiles of Cybertron" , (very likely title) could see Shockwave (or a possible Galvatron minion) remove Tryps Spark & core Processor from the Nemesis to give birth to a new up-scaled Trypticon . Then they can introduce a story about the 'bots bringing Metroplex to earth either whole or in pieces for reassembly.

But Shockwave stayed behind on Cybertron when the Nemesis left.

And, to be frank, relocating Metroplex to Earth and the Cons building another Trypticon seems like more trouble than it's worth since Metroplex wasn't really needed on Earth and there's already a Trypticon on Earth as the Nemesis.

There's also the notion that, well, the Bots and Cons actually have to get to Earth first since they don't go there immediately after leaving Cybertron.

Transformer such as Shockwave have come back from much worse, not counting death. Megatron holds the record in Marvel and DW alone he revived 5 or 6 times. Shockwave also came back 3/4 times. Galvatron 2 times. Optimus was in peices when Shockwave 1st overthrew Megatron in Marvel. It has happened in the Beast continuity even more often.

Trypticon was first built in the cartoon and the comic when the Decepticons had almost no resources. They can do it again.

They have moved objects the size of planets before. Building a space bridge on Cybertron or using small ones to move 'Plex in pieces is actually very realistic. Look at what the Soviets did to there factories in WW2, as well as countless other efforts in just the 20th. They have been moving big things in pieces for centuries.

You gotta learn as a writer not to look at something and say that is too "unrealistic"/"unfeasible" and disqualify said idea. Instead take advantage of the challenge to tell a good story. This IS the hallmark of some of THE best writers.

Look at Zato-Ichi, the "Blind Swordsman", he has been called too unbelievable. However, there are examples of people like Ichi even today, on YouTube no less, in history, even warriors, and more. Bruce Lee took the idea so seriously that he tried to make a TV show based on Ichi's model.

Tronus_Rex wrote:Transformer such as Shockwave have come back from much worse, not counting death. Megatron holds the record in Marvel and DW alone he revived 5 or 6 times. Shockwave also came back 3/4 times. Galvatron 2 times. Optimus was in peices when Shockwave 1st overthrew Megatron in Marvel. It has happened in the Beast continuity even more often.

What does that have to do with him staying behind on Cybertron?

Tronus_Rex wrote:Trypticon was first built in the cartoon and the comic when the Decepticons had almost no resources. They can do it again.

Evidence shows that they didn't, since there is no other Trypticon on Earth in the present day aside from the Nemesis.

And, when the G1 cartoon Cons built Trypticon, they were in the services of the Quintessons, so they had the Quints' resources to build him.

Tronus_Rex wrote:They have moved objects the size of planets before. Building a space bridge on Cybertron or using small ones to move 'Plex in pieces is actually very realistic. Look at what the Soviets did to there factories in WW2, as well as countless other efforts in just the 20th. They have been moving big things in pieces for centuries.

Didn't say that they "couldn't", just that there's little reason for them to do so.

And, like Trypticon, evidence shows that they don't bring him to Earth since there's no sign of him anywhere on Earth, especially with the Autobots being kept secret from humanity by the U.S. gove.rnment, a cover that Metroplex's presence would have easily blown had he been there.

Tronus_Rex wrote:You gotta learn as a writer not to look at something and say that is too "unrealistic"/"unfeasible" and disqualify said idea. Instead take advantage of the challenge to tell a good story. This IS the hallmark of some of THE best writers.

Look at Zato-Ichi, the "Blind Swordsman", he has been called too unbelievable. However, there are examples of people like Ichi even today, on YouTube no less, in history, even warriors, and more. Bruce Lee took the idea so seriously that he tried to make a TV show based on Ichi's model.

Thing is, the timeline of this continuity was laid out a long time ago, and from the looks of all that we've seen thus far, Trypticon evidently remains stuck in Nemesis mode, no new Trypticon is built, and Metroplex remains where he is on Cybertron.

Why are we arguing about scale between two different characters from different universes and continuities?

If a Generations Trypticon is made in the next year or so, it'll likely be part of the idw run of figures, just like Metroplex is.

And if he's based on WFC, well then he's aligned and not part of the same universe as Metroplex, unless idw brings Trypticon back and uses the WFC design.

It Is Him wrote:Giant robot dinosaurs? Sign me up

This all God damn day. I would be more than happy to pay Titan money for Titan Trypticon. Possibly more willing to do so than for Metroplex and I was already kind of ecstatic for Metroplex. Just think of the possibility of how freaking fantastic that could look.

Flux Convoy wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Giant robot dinosaurs? Sign me up

This all God damn day. I would be more than happy to pay Titan money for Titan Trypticon. Possibly more willing to do so than for Metroplex and I was already kind of ecstatic for Metroplex. Just think of the possibility of how freaking fantastic that could look.

I feel, and I am not alone in this view, that Trypticon was the finest Baseformer. If I had a G1 scale, I would put Trypticon as 1st, Fortress Maximus 2nd, Metroplex 3rd, and Scorponok 4th. Trypticon had the most interesting transformation, I feel the best weapons, an awesome walking feature, and arguably the coolest Robot mode as a T...heck, GOJIRAAAA!!!!

I do think that it's sad that Grand Mal was never built as a base former. It was a giant head that transformed in to a battleship and could have had an awesome robot mode.

The only Megatron I think is arguably better than a possible Baseformer Meg's is Transmetal 2 because it's 2 Megatrons for the price of 1 ^^ and the only other Megatron stronger & cooler (debatable) is Galvatron from the movie and the UK comics, also Armada with DW...

Anyway, yeah, rabbit hole, sorry. I totally waant a titan class Trypticon.

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