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Postby Insurgent » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:24 pm

I love BM. Yeah, I prefer BW and G1, but BM had a much darker tone to it, there was some great characterisation (like Tankor/Rhinox's descent to the dark side, Rattrap feeling helpless with no weapons and eventually forming a way to counteract that, Silverbolt's redemption). It had me routing for both sides to win for very different reasons, something barely any show has ever made me do. It's usually the villains I route for.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:29 pm

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Saber_Wulf wrote:on anoher forum fan of his said he ws so i was like great he screwed up another good idea cause well watch a show call the condor from marvel its craptacular. But he had a helping hand in destroying the g1 continium so in a way he is still partial responsable for it. I dont know i expected a lot out of beast machines and it so let me down magorly with the transorganic transformer and aswell as screwing up the story line of g1, the first transformers had to learn to transform bull crap they built into their systems disertion of the dinobots told us that part in the viewing room. So much of beast machines contradicted what we learnt over 10 years ago when the abomination was brought out to tv and well personally i fell it should never of gotten of the drawing board. They should of dubbed the japanese series first that would of made more sense cause the ywere out looking for primal and his crew and well yeah it just sucked imo thats all.



It must be a really long time since you've seen all the seasons of the G1 toon.Being able to transform was not built into their systems from the begining.

If you watch the 5 part opener ot season 5 faces of Darkness they show us a part of TF history set just after they were created by the Quinasons ,witch is much earlyer then the past history we saw in the viewing room in the episode "Disertion of the Dinobots".

In "5 faces of Darkness" Rodimus Travels trew the Matrix and learns that the First Transformers did in fact have to learn to Transform.About a milliena after running the Quintason off Cybertron the Autobots and Decepticon were fighting in their 2nd civil war.....the Autobots first developed the abilty to transform as a meen to win the war....but the Decepticon learned to do it soon after.

So when it was said in Beast Machines it didnt contradict anything about how TF's transform.....but I do agree that the show should should have been taken in a different direction.

And just to give you a little information....The Condor has no connection to Marvel Comic's at all.That was a Stan Lee creation and Stan hasnt been in control of Marvel since the 90's.But the premes for the show sucked so you cant just blame Marv for that.

Here is a list of characters Marv Wolfman had a hand in creating [if not done only by him].....you should judge his abilty's by them.



DC comics
* Raven
* Cyborg
* Deathstroke
* Jericho
* Trigon
* Brother Blood
* Terra
* Nightwing
* Starfire
* Tim Drake [Robin III]
* Monitor
* Anti-Monitor
* Alexander Luthor, Jr.
* Doctor Light
* Gangbuster
* Vigilante

Marvel Comics
* Blade
* Hannibal King
* Nova
* Black Cat
* Bullseye
* Terrax
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:41 am

sto vo kor i recomend you wtch that episode agin it says the autobots tell rodimus that they created the art of transformation they CREATED. Showing they did not learn how to transform first of all ok The clips that show in the disertion of the dinobots that swoop carly and spike. The clip shows tehm making an autobot able to transform. Autobots made the art of transformation not learnt how to do it like they state in beast machines so re watch the episode and you will learn.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:36 am

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Saber_Wulf wrote:sto vo kor i recomend you wtch that episode agin it says the autobots tell rodimus that they created the art of transformation they CREATED. Showing they did not learn how to transform first of all ok The clips that show in the disertion of the dinobots that swoop carly and spike. The clip shows tehm making an autobot able to transform. Autobots made the art of transformation not learnt how to do it like they state in beast machines so re watch the episode and you will learn.


You got a few things to learn....like the fact that a word
can have different meening's in conversation.Yes the past Autobot leader tells Rodimus that Autobots Created the art of transforming.....But your takeing the word to literaly.Because soon after the past leader says that he also said , and I quote: "the Autobots ruled for many centeries but in time the Decepticons also learned to transform"

Here's a clip to watch if you like...its at time index 10:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EvaA59ZhvI

Also after that statment he go's on to say that Megatron was born.Are you going to take the word born literaly as well because the deffinition of the word born : brought forth by or as if by birth meaning that Megatron came out of his mother's womb alive.Are you telling me that Transformers give birth to live children???????

Also how does one create anything????????It's by trile and error.First you try to create something ....you fail and you
learn from that failuar and then you repet the prossus and you then learn what works and you then create something.

How does a computer programer create a new program????he has to learn the basic's of computer programs.

How does a writter create a work of fiction???????By learning to write

How does an artist creat a work of art???????He has to learn how to paint.

One can not create with out learning how.

Just like the Autobots must have done.......they tryed failed , then learned from that and created the art of transforming.

Also in Desertion of the Dinobots we really dont see them creating a transformable robot.....what we see and hear is them say that the autobots devised new tactic's and launched a counter offisensive on their arch fow's....then in the next shot we see a few transforming robots fighting.....but if I was going to take what we see and heard literaly then it must have been the Decepticon that we first see transforming in that scene because if you look very closly you'll see that the designs of some of the bot transforming are the same design of the Decepticons we see just a few seconds before attacking the Autobots.....I thought it was an animation error but if we take the scene literaly then what we see is Decepticons transforming not Autobots.

Here's a clip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRFRUo0Ykjo

The next time you try to suggest to me that I should try to watch an episode again.......I suggest that you ...

[1] Watch the episode your sel and pay attention to the whole thing and not just the parts you want to hear.

[2]Learn that words have different meaning's when the contex of the conversation warrents it.

[3] Make sure you have your facts right.

[4] Stop trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right. :P

You are so bent on trying to prove me wrong that you provided me with the proff I needed to prove you wrong and you didnt even see it.

Here are some pics from the viewing room tapes

these two are the Decepticon attacking the peasful Autobots
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This next on is the Transforming Autobots.....do you see any familur faces?????????
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:04 am

i think your taking it way to seriously aswell just cause it says LEARNED dosnt mean they lerned how to transform the decipticons would of learnt how to transform by capturing an autobot and looking at the schmatics aswell sto ko, look at rebirth he autobots xrayed the target master nebulon to get hte blue prints for it. Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.

Then you would see the constructicons building him but as we all know megtron mde the consturcticons turn evil since they are constuction vehicles and that was the autobot role on cybertron. So no this robots as i hve previously shown that they made the art of transformtion by reconstucting their bodies so they have this bility other wise whyt would the autobot created the dinobots first into their dinosaur forms or megtron hving the constructicons in their robot modes or prime with the aerial bots.

Your theory is fulse on how you are being conceived into thinking wow the autobots learnt how to transform with skill and patience. The fallen was able to transform and he was one of the original 1 comic book wise yes but he was PROGRAMED with the ability to transform. Also back to teh episode of disertion of the dinobots if transformers had to LEARN HOW TO transform then why was one being reprogrammed so he COULD transform. Look seriously beast mchines was wrong in so many ways. Transformers didnt trnsform from their vehicle form THEN to their robot form either did they so no they were robots robots are progrmmed for certain abilities nd i highly DOUBT that the quintasons gave the ability to transform into vehicles.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:52 am

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Saber_Wulf wrote:i think your taking it way to seriously aswell just cause it says LEARNED dosnt mean they lerned how to transform the decipticons would of learnt how to transform by capturing an autobot and looking at the schmatics aswell sto ko, look at rebirth he autobots xrayed the target master nebulon to get hte blue prints for it.


I'm not the one taking it way to seriously.You were the one that tryed to make an a$$ of me and pointed out an episode trying to say that you were right because it say's created.witch was wrong because it said invented not created.

If you would have payed attention to the episode you would have seen that both are points were proven in just a few seconds of each other.

Yes the Decepticons could have learned to transformin by taking a autobot captive and steeling the info....but they could have learnd on their owen....we dont know witch because they never show it.

Saber_Wulf wrote:Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.


Dude no disrespect but I didnt understand a word of this.


Saber_Wulf wrote:Then you would see the constructicons building him but as we all know megtron mde the consturcticons turn evil since they are constuction vehicles and that was the autobot role on cybertron.

What does that have to do with what were talking about????????

Saber_Wulf wrote:So no this robots as i hve previously shown that they made the art of transformtion by reconstucting their bodies so they have this bility other wise whyt would the autobot created the dinobots first into their dinosaur forms or megtron hving the constructicons in their robot modes or prime with the aerial bots.


No what you showed was them working on Autobots.As for the other Transformers you mention....how to transform was all ready knowen.

Saber_Wulf wrote: Your theory is fulse on how you are being conceived into thinking wow the autobots learnt how to transform with skill and patience. The fallen was able to transform and he was one of the original 1 comic book wise yes but he was PROGRAMED with the ability to transform. Also back to teh episode of disertion of the dinobots if transformers had to LEARN HOW TO transform then why was one being reprogrammed so he COULD transform. Look seriously beast mchines was wrong in so many ways. Transformers didnt trnsform from their vehicle form THEN to their robot form either did they so no they were robots robots are progrmmed for certain abilities nd i highly DOUBT that the quintasons gave the ability to transform into vehicles.


The Fallen is from an other continuity and isint part of thei debate.....were talking about the G1 toon and the Beast machines show.

My theroy isint confused at all.You seem to think that the abilty to transform went from idea to function over night.

I'm sure that the programers that created the abilty to transform first experimented and failed.They then learned what worked and tryed again.This process is called learning and can be considered to be what Beast Machine's Optimus Primal was talking about.

Now you seem to be assuming that I'm defending the Beast Machines show.Again your wrong.....I was very displeased with the way the story went in that show.I dont really like the idea that cybertron has become tecno-organic ether.

But you had the wrong facts.They dont say or really show anything in desertion of the Dinobots and in 5 faces of Darkness they say invented the art of transforming not created like you said earlyer.They also say that the Decepticons learned how to transform.

You were wrong again.....you seem to be wrong alot.
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:01 am

ok first
Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.
ws meant to be i highly doubt quintasons created robots with spare wheels inside them.

Second ok i understand where you come from now BUT the yway primal discribes it is tht the autobots could already transform they just had to find out how to transform with the power with in bull crap bro seriously the way he discribes it is not how it happend.
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:05 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.


Dude no disrespect but I didnt understand a word of this.


I think Saber_Wulf is arguing against the idea that the Autobots learnt how to transform as opposed to being physically altered to transform, his argument being that if they just had to learn how to transform then the implication is that the Transformers had alt.mode kibble and vehicle parts in/on their bodies right from the get-go.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:15 am

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Saber_Wulf wrote:ok first
Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.
ws meant to be i highly doubt quintasons created robots with spare wheels inside them.

Second ok i understand where you come from now BUT the yway primal discribes it is tht the autobots could already transform they just had to find out how to transform with the power with in bull crap bro seriously the way he discribes it is not how it happend.


I know what your sayinf but you do have to consider the fact that Primal was describing events from billions of years in the past.There's no way he would know all the facts and details about how the first TF's learned or invented transforming.

Thats like you or me trying to describe how God [if you believe] made the earth in 6 days in great detail.Or trying to describe the American civil war in great detail.......we cant because we werent there.

Just like Primal wasnt there.....he described it the best he could with the facts he knew.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:20 am

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Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:Also if your going to take the LEARNED how to transform like oh my god they morphed their bodies yeah lke robots just have spare tyres lying about in side them when they were made s robots lmao.


Dude no disrespect but I didnt understand a word of this.


I think Saber_Wulf is arguing against the idea that the Autobots learnt how to transform as opposed to being physically altered to transform, his argument being that if they just had to learn how to transform then the implication is that the Transformers had alt.mode kibble and vehicle parts in/on their bodies right from the get-go.


I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:23 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:01 am

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Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.


Thank you very much :grin:

and So concludes todays leason on not trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right Saber_Wulf :P
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:27 am

and so concludes topdays message of kds dont be lik sto ko vor cause he's a f**k tard for that last comment
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Postby Briggs » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:10 pm

I think sabur wulf just says stuff the sake of saying stuff. If you say 2+2 is 4 he is going to tell you "well, maybe only on earth. 2+2 on cybertron is 2132321" or something.

Arguing for the sake of arguing.
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:56 pm

briggs **** you you filthy dog. You're just trying to start one now so **** off now **** for brains.
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Postby GetterDragun » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:40 pm

Saber_Wulf wrote:briggs **** you you filthy dog. You're just trying to start one now so **** off now **** for brains.


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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:59 pm

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Saber_Wulf wrote:and so concludes topdays message of kds dont be lik sto ko vor cause he's a f**k tard for that last comment


You made the first disrespectful commont in this argument and your calling me the f**k tard ????

This is what you said to me.....

Saber_Wulf wrote:sto vo kor i recomend you wtch that episode agin it says the autobots tell rodimus that they created the art of transformation they CREATED. Showing they did not learn how to transform first of all ok The clips that show in the disertion of the dinobots that swoop carly and spike. The clip shows tehm making an autobot able to transform. Autobots made the art of transformation not learnt how to do it like they state in beast machines so re watch the episode and you will learn.


That was very rude to begin with.....and to make matters worce your facts were wrong.

So where do you get off calling me a f**k tard?????You were trying to make an A$$ out of me with that comment.

Now I'm guessing by your maner of typing that english is not your first language [if I'm wrong I'm sorry] but if I'm right you should be careful what you say to people when your posting because suggesting that I have something to learn is just like saying that I'm stupid.

Think about that the next time that you try insulting some one.

This is the 2nd time that you insult me in 2 days.......I've already explained to you when a poster makes a comment that is followed by this :P or this :-P that it is considered a joke and not to be taken seriously.
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Postby GetterDragun » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:05 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:and so concludes topdays message of kds dont be lik sto ko vor cause he's a f**k tard for that last comment


You made the first disrespectful commont in this argument and your calling me the f**k tard ????

This is what you said to me.....

Saber_Wulf wrote:sto vo kor i recomend you wtch that episode agin it says the autobots tell rodimus that they created the art of transformation they CREATED. Showing they did not learn how to transform first of all ok The clips that show in the disertion of the dinobots that swoop carly and spike. The clip shows tehm making an autobot able to transform. Autobots made the art of transformation not learnt how to do it like they state in beast machines so re watch the episode and you will learn.


That was very rude to begin with.....and to make matters worce your facts were wrong.

So where do you get off calling me a f**k tard?????You were trying to make an A$$ out of me with that comment.

Now I'm guessing by your maner of typing that english is not your first language [if I'm wrong I'm sorry] but if I'm right you should be careful what you say to people when your posting because suggesting that I have something to learn is just like saying that I'm stupid.

Think about that the next time that you try insulting some one.

This is the 2nd time that you insult me in 2 days.......I've already explained to you when a poster makes a comment that is followed by this :P or this :-P that it is considered a joke and not to be taken seriously.


Sto_vo_kor, take the high road on this my fiend...he's being watched.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:21 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:and so concludes topdays message of kds dont be lik sto ko vor cause he's a f**k tard for that last comment


You made the first disrespectful commont in this argument and your calling me the f**k tard ????

This is what you said to me.....

Saber_Wulf wrote:sto vo kor i recomend you wtch that episode agin it says the autobots tell rodimus that they created the art of transformation they CREATED. Showing they did not learn how to transform first of all ok The clips that show in the disertion of the dinobots that swoop carly and spike. The clip shows tehm making an autobot able to transform. Autobots made the art of transformation not learnt how to do it like they state in beast machines so re watch the episode and you will learn.


That was very rude to begin with.....and to make matters worce your facts were wrong.

So where do you get off calling me a f**k tard?????You were trying to make an A$$ out of me with that comment.

Now I'm guessing by your maner of typing that english is not your first language [if I'm wrong I'm sorry] but if I'm right you should be careful what you say to people when your posting because suggesting that I have something to learn is just like saying that I'm stupid.

Think about that the next time that you try insulting some one.

This is the 2nd time that you insult me in 2 days.......I've already explained to you when a poster makes a comment that is followed by this :P or this :-P that it is considered a joke and not to be taken seriously.


Sto_vo_kor, take the high road on this my fiend...he's being watched.


I will and thanks....sometime's I reply to a post before reading the rest of the page.After I posted it I saw what had been said after his statement.

But again thank you.
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:51 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.


Thank you very much :grin:

and So concludes todays leason on not trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right Saber_Wulf :P


Yeah and what was this comment about hten sto ko vor. If you had actually explained yourself properly then i would not HAVE to re explaind myself. I don't particularly care about the warnings at all really when this guy can get off calling me a arse hole and gets no warning and i call him something which is actually an abreviatin plus tard on the end look the word up
Fornication
Under
Command of
King
As many people know abreviations some times miss out on the smaller words like for instance the of on that one also here's another the word **** comes from
Ship
Holding
In
Transit
this was an abreviation for the first settelment colony ships exporting living stock due to build up of methane pockets from cattle crapping and farting smokers were not allowed to go on these ships due to the fact one light gets struck in a well NON ventelated area and BOOM.

Your explanation to it all ain the first place sto ko vor made it confusing. When and only when you had re explained yourself you had made your self a lot more clearer i also DID appolagise if you bothered to read but hey you must not of read that part now did you. So i ask this question to teh mods of this site, why is he not warned for flaming I first by calling me an smart arse that is not flaming is it not? So whts your ruling on that isn't it meant to be whats good for the geese is good for the gander or do you just allow special privlidges for some. Yes my words were worse but in due toll i reacted to another flaming me. I takje responsability for my own words BUT will you give him a warning and let him take responsability for his own words which i have not seen from him as yet?
Saber_Wulf

Postby Briggs » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:39 pm

Teeheeheeeee...

:oops:

p.s. I was commenting on how he was doing a good job of bringing up facts about your debat and it seemed you were totally ignoring them or not caring to understand, hence my comment of it doesn't matter what he says, you are just going to say it's wrong without giving a good reason why.

It was also sort of a clue in that maybe it's worthless trying to discuss it with you, since on cybertron 2+2 = 21231412.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:08 pm

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Saber_Wulf wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.


Thank you very much :grin:

and So concludes todays leason on not trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right Saber_Wulf :P


Yeah and what was this comment about hten sto ko vor. If you had actually explained yourself properly then i would not HAVE to re explaind myself. I don't particularly care about the warnings at all really when this guy can get off calling me a arse hole and gets no warning and i call him something which is actually an abreviatin plus tard on the end look the word up
Fornication
Under
Command of
King
As many people know abreviations some times miss out on the smaller words like for instance the of on that one also here's another the word **** comes from
Ship
Holding
In
Transit
this was an abreviation for the first settelment colony ships exporting living stock due to build up of methane pockets from cattle crapping and farting smokers were not allowed to go on these ships due to the fact one light gets struck in a well NON ventelated area and BOOM.

Your explanation to it all ain the first place sto ko vor made it confusing. When and only when you had re explained yourself you had made your self a lot more clearer i also DID appolagise if you bothered to read but hey you must not of read that part now did you. So i ask this question to teh mods of this site, why is he not warned for flaming I first by calling me an smart arse that is not flaming is it not? So whts your ruling on that isn't it meant to be whats good for the geese is good for the gander or do you just allow special privlidges for some. Yes my words were worse but in due toll i reacted to another flaming me. I takje responsability for my own words BUT will you give him a warning and let him take responsability for his own words which i have not seen from him as yet?


To begin with you got your warnning because of this comment

Saber_Wulf wrote:briggs **** you you filthy dog. You're just trying to start one now so **** off now **** for brains.

Not for what you said to me.
Second you insulted me more then once....first suggesting that I was stupid and then your nasty comment.

And I did not in any way say A** Hole....my comment was that you were trying to be a Smart Alec when telling me to watch and learn.

And I dont see how you not understanding me has anything to do with this.Every one else in this thread understood what I was saying....you were the only one that didnt.That suggests that you may need to read the posts of others more closly.

But ether way I have nothing to be sorry about because you tried to attack my inteligence first.

And I know my spelling sucks :sad:

And I'm done debating with you on this thread.So have a good day sir :grin:
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Postby Saber_Wulf » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:25 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.


Thank you very much :grin:

and So concludes todays leason on not trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right Saber_Wulf :P


Yeah and what was this comment about hten sto ko vor. If you had actually explained yourself properly then i would not HAVE to re explaind myself. I don't particularly care about the warnings at all really when this guy can get off calling me a arse hole and gets no warning and i call him something which is actually an abreviatin plus tard on the end look the word up
Fornication
Under
Command of
King
As many people know abreviations some times miss out on the smaller words like for instance the of on that one also here's another the word **** comes from
Ship
Holding
In
Transit
this was an abreviation for the first settelment colony ships exporting living stock due to build up of methane pockets from cattle crapping and farting smokers were not allowed to go on these ships due to the fact one light gets struck in a well NON ventelated area and BOOM.

Your explanation to it all ain the first place sto ko vor made it confusing. When and only when you had re explained yourself you had made your self a lot more clearer i also DID appolagise if you bothered to read but hey you must not of read that part now did you. So i ask this question to teh mods of this site, why is he not warned for flaming I first by calling me an smart arse that is not flaming is it not? So whts your ruling on that isn't it meant to be whats good for the geese is good for the gander or do you just allow special privlidges for some. Yes my words were worse but in due toll i reacted to another flaming me. I takje responsability for my own words BUT will you give him a warning and let him take responsability for his own words which i have not seen from him as yet?


To begin with you got your warnning because of this comment

Saber_Wulf wrote:briggs **** you you filthy dog. You're just trying to start one now so **** off now **** for brains.

Not for what you said to me.
Second you insulted me more then once....first suggesting that I was stupid and then your nasty comment.

And I did not in any way say A** Hole....my comment was that you were trying to be a Smart Alec when telling me to watch and learn.

And I dont see how you not understanding me has anything to do with this.Every one else in this thread understood what I was saying....you were the only one that didnt.That suggests that you may need to read the posts of others more closly.

But ether way I have nothing to be sorry about because you tried to attack my inteligence first.

And I know my spelling sucks :sad:

And I'm done debating with you on this thread.So have a good day sir :grin:


You know what i tried to appolagise the adult thing you could of done was appolagise aswell then all would of ben sweet but now your trying to continue the fight so you know what 3 little things for you
get a life
get over it
and last but fore most
get lost
Also you called me a asmart arse not alec other wise you wouldn't of put *& in it thats a charactature for the letters in between a curse word. As i said i tried to appolagise but you had to continue so thius will be reported of you continuing to flame now as the final suggestions says GET LOST.
Saber_Wulf

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:02 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Saber_Wulf wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber_Wulf wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I understood him .....the problem was that he was trying to say that there was no presedent in the G1 toon for Primal's statement and he was wrong about that.

And physically altering your self [if you were a robot] so that you can transform is also a learning process....or do you think that they sucseeded the first time they tryed????


I don't think they succeeded the first time they tried, no. I'd agree it was a learning process.


Thank you very much :grin:

and So concludes todays leason on not trying to be a Smart @$$ because your only getting the second half of that right Saber_Wulf :P


Yeah and what was this comment about hten sto ko vor. If you had actually explained yourself properly then i would not HAVE to re explaind myself. I don't particularly care about the warnings at all really when this guy can get off calling me a arse hole and gets no warning and i call him something which is actually an abreviatin plus tard on the end look the word up
Fornication
Under
Command of
King
As many people know abreviations some times miss out on the smaller words like for instance the of on that one also here's another the word **** comes from
Ship
Holding
In
Transit
this was an abreviation for the first settelment colony ships exporting living stock due to build up of methane pockets from cattle crapping and farting smokers were not allowed to go on these ships due to the fact one light gets struck in a well NON ventelated area and BOOM.

Your explanation to it all ain the first place sto ko vor made it confusing. When and only when you had re explained yourself you had made your self a lot more clearer i also DID appolagise if you bothered to read but hey you must not of read that part now did you. So i ask this question to teh mods of this site, why is he not warned for flaming I first by calling me an smart arse that is not flaming is it not? So whts your ruling on that isn't it meant to be whats good for the geese is good for the gander or do you just allow special privlidges for some. Yes my words were worse but in due toll i reacted to another flaming me. I takje responsability for my own words BUT will you give him a warning and let him take responsability for his own words which i have not seen from him as yet?


To begin with you got your warnning because of this comment

Saber_Wulf wrote:briggs **** you you filthy dog. You're just trying to start one now so **** off now **** for brains.

Not for what you said to me.
Second you insulted me more then once....first suggesting that I was stupid and then your nasty comment.

And I did not in any way say A** Hole....my comment was that you were trying to be a Smart Alec when telling me to watch and learn.

And I dont see how you not understanding me has anything to do with this.Every one else in this thread understood what I was saying....you were the only one that didnt.That suggests that you may need to read the posts of others more closly.

But ether way I have nothing to be sorry about because you tried to attack my inteligence first.

And I know my spelling sucks :sad:

And I'm done debating with you on this thread.So have a good day sir :grin:


You know what i tried to appolagise the adult thing you could of done was appolagise aswell then all would of ben sweet but now your trying to continue the fight so you know what 3 little things for you
get a life
get over it
and last but fore most
get lost
Also you called me a asmart arse not alec other wise you wouldn't of put *& in it thats a charactature for the letters in between a curse word. As i said i tried to appolagise but you had to continue so thius will be reported of you continuing to flame now as the final suggestions says GET LOST.


Well thank you very much for your suggestions.
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