In all G1 continuities both Autobots Commanders arguably rival the power of Optimus, but how would this odd couple fair against a mech with the combined strengths of Megatron and their fabled leader?
When in doubt ask Duke of Lunes...
Grimlock and UltraMagnus vs Guiltor
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OK...............
Here it goes, my version........... Autobot City Commander witts, strength and speed, and Grimlock's brute strength, brawn and stupidity. (Dunno if thats an asset her or not). Vs the Might, and advantage of many battles fought by Megatron........I still say it be the two Autobots.........Their strength, and abilities give them slight, Tactical efficiency.....(As useless Perceptor would say).
- Mighty Scorponok
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No doubt Grimmy and Ultra Magnus would put up one hell of a good fight but I think that Guiltor would eventually win.

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Im gonna go with the two bots on this one
I mean, seriously, Rodimus helped beat Guiltor's ass in that manga alongside Galvatron, so I think Magnus and Grimlock stand a very good chance against this abomination inhabited by Starscream's spark
I mean, seriously, Rodimus helped beat Guiltor's ass in that manga alongside Galvatron, so I think Magnus and Grimlock stand a very good chance against this abomination inhabited by Starscream's spark

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Who or what is the Duke of Lunes? You callin' me a loony?
Heh, only found this by a random google search of Guiltor, which I do every once in awhile.
But yeah, Guiltor would win in brute strength, and only guile and stratey would defeat him.

Heh, only found this by a random google search of Guiltor, which I do every once in awhile.
But yeah, Guiltor would win in brute strength, and only guile and stratey would defeat him.

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Deadpool. wrote:GUILTOR!
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Well, buy time Magnus came around Grimlock became cutsie, and Magnus pretty much sucked, so I'm gonna say the other guy(isn't that the half Prime half Megatron guy?)
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Liege Evilmus wrote:Well, buy time Magnus came around Grimlock became cutsie, and Magnus pretty much sucked, so I'm gonna say the other guy(isn't that the half Prime half Megatron guy?)
Not just half-Prime and Megatron, but the Perfect Combination of the two


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Re: Grimlock and UltraMagnus vs Guiltor
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It's spelt 'Gilthor' on the wiki.
Strangely, I created a similar OP/Megs merger later on in my fan fic. I didn't know about Gilthor. Mine was an actual merger of OP & Megs to symbolise the end of the war.
Gilthor has the potential to defeat Grimlock and Ultra Magnus but, apparently, his will is insufficient. He needs to be very determined and completely committed to the pursuit of victory.
Strangely, I created a similar OP/Megs merger later on in my fan fic. I didn't know about Gilthor. Mine was an actual merger of OP & Megs to symbolise the end of the war.
Gilthor has the potential to defeat Grimlock and Ultra Magnus but, apparently, his will is insufficient. He needs to be very determined and completely committed to the pursuit of victory.
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