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hello. im confused. why did peoplle say truck not monkey, but I have never heard someone say "Gun not Dinosaur" Optimus primal and optimus prime are different names but megatron and megatron are the same name.

bumblebeerocks wrote:THIS TOPIC WILL NOT INVOLVE SAILOR MOON

Give it a few replies first before you make such a big commitment. >P

bumblebeerocks wrote:hello. im confused. why did peoplle say truck not monkey, but I have never heard someone say "Gun not Dinosaur" Optimus primal and optimus prime are different names but megatron and megatron are the same name.

It's probably because the pistol is one of the lamest, most useless alt modes ever. Plus, everyone loves dinosaurs.

Tekka wrote:

bumblebeerocks wrote:THIS TOPIC WILL NOT INVOLVE SAILOR MOON

Give it a few replies first before you make such a big commitment. >P

bumblebeerocks wrote:hello. im confused. why did peoplle say truck not monkey, but I have never heard someone say "Gun not Dinosaur" Optimus primal and optimus prime are different names but megatron and megatron are the same name.

It's probably because the pistol is one of the lamest, most useless alt modes ever. Plus, everyone loves dinosaurs.

I though everyone loves monkeys? and why would i mention you-know-who in a thread about Beast Wars?

I think you'll find good ol' Tyrannosaurus has a much bigger fan following than feces flinging primates.

Tekka wrote:I think you'll find good ol' Tyrannosaurus has a much bigger fan following than feces flinging primates.

Him Grimlock sure popular, me forgot. I never have been a big fan of beast-formers myself. Dinobots (includes Dinobot and Terrasaur), Rattrap, Waspinator and BW Megatron are the only beat-formers I like. (not counting soundwave's Minions)

Megatron prior to BW had been a gun, a tank and a jet. He was a gun once. Prime had been a truck for all his toys with one exception. It's difficult to argue that "BW sucks cos Megatron is always a gun. Unless he's something else."

Sledge wrote:Megatron prior to BW had been a gun, a tank and a jet. He was a gun once. Prime had been a truck for all his toys with one exception. It's difficult to argue that "BW sucks cos Megatron is always a gun. Unless he's something else."

I just thought it was weird people don't like prime as an animal, but megatron went over fine

It made more sense to focus on someone who had an iconic mode than someone who could be anything. Same with the recent Movie. Prime HAD to be a truck, whereas Megatron could be anything. Ok, we complained because he looked awful, but I don't think anyone was bothered he was a jet, just that he was a terrible jet.

By the time Beast Wars came out, Megatron hadn't been a gun since 1984 (1986 if you count Galvatron as Megatron). Prime was a truck in 1995, and would be again in 1997.

Beside, TRUKK NOT MUNKY is pretty much shorthand for "Transformers should not turn into organic animals, they should be mechanical."

Monkey. Small.

T-Rex Dino. BIG.


again...

Gun. Small.

Truck. BIG.


See the difference?

Sledge wrote:It made more sense to focus on someone who had an iconic mode than someone who could be anything. Same with the recent Movie. Prime HAD to be a truck, whereas Megatron could be anything. Ok, we complained because he looked awful, but I don't think anyone was bothered he was a jet, just that he was a terrible jet.

By the time Beast Wars came out, Megatron hadn't been a gun since 1984 (1986 if you count Galvatron as Megatron). Prime was a truck in 1995, and would be again in 1997.

Beside, TRUKK NOT MUNKY is pretty much shorthand for "Transformers should not turn into organic animals, they should be mechanical."

I pretty much agree with Sledge here, and I know he hates Beast Wars, and I kind of liked it as something different, but not until recently did I get that opinion.
Anyhow, we're more or less used to Megatron always being something different, and Prime always being a truck. Iconic or however you want to say it, I think it;s boring as hell that Prime is always a truck. Better a truck than an ape, but I don't know. This same kind of Prime must be a truck arguement carries over to lots of other TFs, like Starscream will perpetually be an aircraft of some type, and how many times have we heard about how Soundwave can't or shouldn't be in the new movie or whatever because kids don't know what a tape player is anymore. Most kids have never seen an abacus, but that doesn't mean that all existing abaci must be eliminated or the concept could never be used again.
Anyhow, Megatron doesn't always need to be a gun, and I think the fandom is cool with that because he's already been so many other things.
Yeah, and movie mode Megatron was worse than herpies. Not that I've ever had the pleasure of herpes, but Movie Megatron=pile of horseshit.

I actually recall asking this question a few years back. The answer I got at the time was simply "Because it would be redundant", which goes back to the answer of:

Sledge wrote:Beside, TRUKK NOT MUNKY is pretty much shorthand for "Transformers should not turn into organic animals, they should be mechanical."

Oh yeah, my phrasing of it was "GUN NOT BARNEY!!" .