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Hasbro to stop MP Megatron (No Cap) shipments to the U.S.

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Postby Dagon » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:31 am

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...Or have they specially trained dogs to sniff out the missing blaze orange? Cause I'd like to meet that dog.


That's one talented-ass dog.
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Postby Basketball Jones » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:46 pm

Of course, if the caps were scented, the customs agents could merely locate the ones the dogs DON'T sniff out.
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Postby Sunstar » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:48 pm

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I get this really nasty thought about scented tfs... thinking of the japanese culture, I would dread what the fragrance they might pick... :oops: :shock:
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Postby AbsumZer0 » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:21 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.


While I agree with the general sentiment regarding the anti-Hasbro nonsense, I don't see this as 'following the law'. Not releasing the figure stateside without an affixed blaze-orange cap would be following the law. Hasbro making an effort to prevent importation of product by a secondary company seems more like using the law to flex their muscle.


I'm not going to bad mouth Hasbro, but I had a thought.

You know, I was thinking about the cap issue today. Do you think that Hasbro wants the caps on Masterpiece Megatron so they can deny imported ones and then release the capped ones domestically? Don't know if I'm asking that the right way or not, but considering the number of people it seems order the MAsterpiece series and with the success (?) of Masterpiece Starscream, I thought Hasbro might try to get a slice of that sweet money pie. But who'd buy a modified one when you could order an unmodified one, right? So we have to stop or block the orders in preparation for an eventual US Hasbro release. Megatron isn't an unknown character, and it looks like anticipation for this figure is running real high all over, so it seems like that would make financial sense.
I'm not calling this a conspiracy, by the way.....just marketing.
Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with this issue. A freind of mine says she knows a guy who is ordering unmodified Megatrons so I'm gonna get mine through her which would come through him, so I've ignored cap talk and such. Anyhow this was just a thought I had during the day. Forgive me if it's nonsense.


I've considered it and, while I'd like to believe that's the case (otherwise it seems hypocritical considering they did nothing to stop the G1 rerelases from being imported unmodified, and they look even closer to the real thing) I'm guessing it probably isn't. Hasbro's been pretty cautious over the last few decades to make sure none of their toys could actually be mistaken for real firearms in a lineup. We were lucky just to get Classics Megatron. If by some chance they did release it domestically it'd probably be not only capped but repainted in G2 neon green colors or something. I think the most likely scenario is that it's suddenly dawned on them that if someone should get shot to death holding one of their licensed characters the press would tear them apart, even if it is a Takara import.
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Postby Leonardo » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:37 pm

High Command wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
SuperSaiyajinSasuke wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.
Er, no, Hasbro does blow, post Beast Wars anyway, look at the rarity of end of the line figures for a great example, and ofcourse, Jetfire.

On subject, I bet it's A) They don't want anyone being an idiot with it and blame them for is being realistic and B) Capped one will be an Western release, in japanese packaging, with an inflated price.


I don't think Hasbro blows. They put out far more figures than does Takara. The rarity of end of the line figures isn't their fault really, that's a problem with the retailers for under-purchasing the end of the line figures. Jetfire is widely available. Again, this might be a problem with the retailers or with distribution. The stores here in Chicago have plenty of Jetfires which I have seen at many other stores during the past two months. It might have more to do with a problem with stores in your particular area.

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Hasbro definitely blows over here in the UK, but we all already knew that right? ;)

For those who don't know why:

Take the classics Magnus and Skywarp 2-pac as an example.
US price = $20 IIRC.
UK price has been given as £30 which is about $60.

:?

I rest my case.


:shock: Wait, if the two-pack is $20.00, how much is a single voyager? And a single deluxe?
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Postby Flux Convoy » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:20 pm

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Every time I see this thread I get an immediate picture in my head of me running around like Kermit the frog with my arms waving over my head, screaming "you can't stop me! you can't stop me!" But seriously Hasbro, YOU CAN'T STOP ME, YOU CAN'T STOP ME!! :P I just want my Megatron at this point. I honestly would prefer mine uncapped since it's what I paid for, but whatever happens I'll take what I get.
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Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:20 pm

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Wow. Four pages of un-founded fears and worries over nothing. Gotta love it.
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:47 pm

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Sunstar wrote:I get this really nasty thought about scented tfs... thinking of the japanese culture, I would dread what the fragrance they might pick... :oops: :shock:

Probably a Lotus Blossom smell. I could see somebody holding a Megatron MP-05 up to their nose, inhaling, and saying "MMMmmm. Lotus Blossum."
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Postby General Magnus » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:03 pm

hooray fro European customs :grin:
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Postby soundwavegt » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:40 am

General Magnus wrote:hooray fro European customs :grin:


Yup. Getting mine from Action HQ for a damn good price too.
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Postby bookofjunon » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:20 pm

tigertracks 24 wrote:So I assume the announcement of the next one will be a Megatron Perfect Edition, or whatever with the rifle attachments...

Passports are not required to Canada yet from the US (Birth certificates and driver's license are though), but in the near future (next year??) they will be, from what I have been reading. Can't say I have made a trip lately, but I am pretty sure there is not passport enforcement YET.

Just buy a capped version and paint it, or whatever...

Since HASBRO owns the rights to the Megatron name, character, and likenesses, I believe they do have the right to stop the 'mass' distribution of one where they do not deem it is okay.

Anyone else think this is for movie hype (joking)??? Even if it is not, it's going to do a nice job of advertising it.


Actually a passport is required to enter the US from here in Canada if you are flying. No land crossing needs one until next year June 2008.

As for the Hasbro sucks things. You know, blame the fact you can't get this the way it was meant to be on the stupid laws the USA has. It isn't Hasbro's fault, even if it was, guess what, they own the rights to ALL the Transformers so if they want to ban it or modify it, as much as we may not like the idea, too bad. We have to accept it, it's their property.

Hasbro has given us the Transfomers, they help by coming to the conventions and they even give nods to us fans in the toys, to all the people saying Hasblo, knock it off, you make the rest of us look as stupid as you.
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Postby Doom Saber » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:48 pm

Swerve wrote:I for one am calling BS on this one. These types of rumors, theories, and speculation always pop up prior to the release of just about any highly anticipated movie or product. The fact is that people don't know, so they try to reason based upon what they do know the outcome of whatever is being discussed and people then latch onto this as an official statement.

If Hasbro was really concerned about Takara impeeding upon their US license wouldn't they try and put a stop to the Takara re-issues that were imported at the same time Hasbro was trying to sell the Commemorative Series? The same could be said for the Binaltech versus the Alternators line or MP-01 and MP-04 versus their 20th Anniversary Prime. I don't see Hasbro suddenly trying to make an example out of Takara with this figure now.

The major concern here is with the Alt mode of Megatron himself and the legality of importing him and, is the case of some retailers, the moral decison to sell a realistic toy gun without a bright orange safety cap. I don't really forsee the import of the figure as a problem considering all the TFC-06's that have been imported and resold by retailers in the US, and in gun mode no less. This item is still readily available and as far as I know, there have been no incidents.

Why would Hasbro step in within weeks of the release and suddenly disapprove? They have known about this product for some time and if they were going to do something about it they would have started sending cease and desist letters to retailers notifying them of the legal issue they would face if they attempted to import and sell this figure. It will be virtually impossible for Hasbro to stop all retailers from receiving this item now.

Until I hear something official from someone directly involved, whether it be Hasbro, Takara, or the store I ordered it from notifying me that they cannot get the figure for me, I'll be expecting my un-moddified MP-05 to arrive in a few weeks. Any third party claiming they have inside information but can't release details or otherwise cannot produce documentation that this figure will be prevented from being imported should be written off as rumor.


Seems like you are right. I do agree it doesn't make sense and this rumor is most likely started over the paranoia of a tf fan or a retailer. If it were true, why do it now and not 2 or 3 years ago when someone could get the reissue or any other megatron figures that look like a gun? Like my sibling said, if this is true, Hasbro has to do this to all the megatrons, including the ones that are setting on ebay for years, regardless of their condition. Also, Hasbro doesn't own the transformers license. Takaratomy owns it.

However, I have heard such a restriction happen before with the marvel super heroes vs street fighter imports; this was before the internet was popular and this bit of info was printed on video games magainzes. Marvel banned all imports of the game to be sold in America because of the japanese only character in the game. That is why it was so difficult to find the game from online retrailers.
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Postby ekocher » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:07 pm

is my mp-05 megatron safe if i got it from ebay and its in midflight now?
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Postby Swerve » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:35 am

ekocher wrote:is my mp-05 megatron safe if i got it from ebay and its in midflight now?


So far so good I suppose. There haven't been any reports on confiscated Megatrons so far and from what I understand, there are now quite a few in the country.

I'm starting to believe that the U.S. customs seizing any figures without the orange tip was a hoax, although legally speaking they technically would be in their right. Then again it is being shipped in bot mode so that might make a difference as well. It's still too early to call, but considering that TFC-06 has had no trouble finding its way into the country, in gun mode presented in a clear window no less, so I don't forsee any problems in the near future.
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Postby Basketball Jones » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:38 am

As for the Hasbro sucks things. You know, blame the fact you can't get this the way it was meant to be on the stupid laws the USA has. It isn't Hasbro's fault, even if it was, guess what, they own the rights to ALL the Transformers so if they want to ban it or modify it, as much as we may not like the idea, too bad. We have to accept it, it's their property.


I don't have to accept a damn thing Hasbro says. If I dislike their business decisions, I'll stop buying their products.

Note that they gain nothing from the secondary market.
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Postby Doom Saber » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:12 pm

Swerve wrote:
ekocher wrote:is my mp-05 megatron safe if i got it from ebay and its in midflight now?


So far so good I suppose. There haven't been any reports on confiscated Megatrons so far and from what I understand, there are now quite a few in the country.

I'm starting to believe that the U.S. customs seizing any figures without the orange tip was a hoax, although legally speaking they technically would be in their right. Then again it is being shipped in bot mode so that might make a difference as well. It's still too early to call, but considering that TFC-06 has had no trouble finding its way into the country, in gun mode presented in a clear window no less, so I don't forsee any problems in the near future.


True, this whole thing is like the y2k issue where ppl over exaggerates and make things up. If customs are this strict, then why I don't complaints of the last trigun figure, whom came with a 1:1 scale pistol. True, it had an orange cap,but it isn't glued on. Also, it is funny how this scare is towards Masterpiece Megatron and not the re-re-reissue of g1 Megatron, which came out at the same time. If this is the case, it wouldn't be so rare to read a TF poster's post about how his junk got seized by customs.

I checked forums left and right and from what I gather is a rare that they will check your stuff if you order one stuff. As for the pic of the gun, I find that hilarious since a lot of products have pictures of guns on it, especially airsoft products. Furthermore, a lot of star wars replicas are of guns. Wouldn't you expect to read stories of some wannabe Jedi getting his replica han solo pistol(which is based off of a WWII pistol) taken by customs? If the toy is marketed towards adults, I doubt custom would really care.
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Postby Real One » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Got mine today from http://www.maybang.com with no cap. They are based in California and have some in stock. :grin:
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Postby Contron » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:27 pm

heres my 10 cents
couldn't bad people that want to sneak in real guns to endanger the safety of other people just put orange caps on their real guns and claim that their also toys?

Wouldnt hasbro already know that we wouldnt dare endanger our collectibles by claiming they're real?
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Postby UFO » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:43 pm

What the crap?

Crazy hippie Hasbro spazoids.
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