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Henry921 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it odd Sludge has fangs? And is...well...alive?

It's not the fact he's alive that bugs everyone: he was still alive when Jazz found him in the sewers, albeit stasis lock. What bugs everyone is that he got his dinosaur mode... even though he was never captured and experimented upon by Shockwave.

Alrighty then. Back to the trailer. Seems Megs got his fusion cannon and right arm grafted back on. Makes me wonder what happened to the Prime arm....

Simple: Optimus hashed it off. It's lying around somewhere on Cybertron. With Optimus "gone", and along with him the Star Saber, there is practically no need to have it reattached when its main purpose was complete.

Mindmaster wrote:

Henry921 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it odd Sludge has fangs? And is...well...alive?

It's not the fact he's alive that bugs everyone: he was still alive when Jazz found him in the sewers, albeit stasis lock. What bugs everyone is that he got his dinosaur mode... even though he was never captured and experimented upon by Shockwave.

The fact that he's alive DOES bother people. He wasn't in stasis when Jazz found him. He was dead. And even if he wasn't, his body was likely (with extremely slim chances of the contrary) destroyed when Jazz and Cliffjumper flooded the sewers where his body was with a corrosive acid to kill all the swarming Insecticons.

Though, his dino mode is bothersome as well, yes.

Henry921 wrote:
Alrighty then. Back to the trailer. Seems Megs got his fusion cannon and right arm grafted back on. Makes me wonder what happened to the Prime arm....

Optimus sliced it off like a butcher. You don't remember that?

PrymeStriker wrote:

Henry921 wrote:
Alrighty then. Back to the trailer. Seems Megs got his fusion cannon and right arm grafted back on. Makes me wonder what happened to the Prime arm....

Optimus sliced it off like a butcher. You don't remember that?

I think he's wondering what happened to the Prime arm after the episode. Like, the Cons presumably still have access to Cybertron via their space bridge, so it's not like they couldn't retrieve it (along with all the relics the Autobots surrendered to them). If everything was just left lying on the ground by the Omega Lock, then they could be easily retrieved if they're all still intact after the lock's explosion.

Yes, I am indeed wondering what happened after Optimus disarmed (snicker, snicker) Megatron, because assuming the Forge of Solus Prime wasn't destroyed along with the Autobot base, he could still use the Prime arm to make weapons of mass destruction or armaments or whathaveyou. It seems like a tragic waste of resources. If the Forge was destroyed, then I could see Megs just discarding it, but as a method of letting a non-Prime wield the powers of a Prime, it still seems like something someone would hang onto.

In that case, the arm could still be in rubble. The bots survived the explosion (somehow), why not the arm?

Exactly my point. It's still there, and still potentially very valuable.

If the forthcoming Beast Hunters voyager Optimus is anything to go on, the Star Saber survived the base explosion, so with the Prime arm Megs could wield that, and there was no indication his own Dark Star Saber was destroyed either.

If we see the Prime arm again, it might be grafted on to someone new... again, there's a lot of storyline potential there.

If Megatron had attached it to his left arm instead, I'd have started a campaign back after first seeing this clip for a multi-episode arc where Shockwave grafted it on to his missing limb and schemed to create new weapons/wield relics of the bygone age to help take his rightful place as Decepticon leader.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Henry921 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it odd Sludge has fangs? And is...well...alive?

It's not the fact he's alive that bugs everyone: he was still alive when Jazz found him in the sewers, albeit stasis lock. What bugs everyone is that he got his dinosaur mode... even though he was never captured and experimented upon by Shockwave.

The fact that he's alive DOES bother people. He wasn't in stasis when Jazz found him. He was dead. And even if he wasn't, his body was likely (with extremely slim chances of the contrary) destroyed when Jazz and Cliffjumper flooded the sewers where his body was with a corrosive acid to kill all the swarming Insecticons.

Though, his dino mode is bothersome as well, yes.

But... I was told he was alive...

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Henry921 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it odd Sludge has fangs? And is...well...alive?

It's not the fact he's alive that bugs everyone: he was still alive when Jazz found him in the sewers, albeit stasis lock. What bugs everyone is that he got his dinosaur mode... even though he was never captured and experimented upon by Shockwave.

The fact that he's alive DOES bother people. He wasn't in stasis when Jazz found him. He was dead. And even if he wasn't, his body was likely (with extremely slim chances of the contrary) destroyed when Jazz and Cliffjumper flooded the sewers where his body was with a corrosive acid to kill all the swarming Insecticons.

Though, his dino mode is bothersome as well, yes.

But... I was told he was alive...

No, man. He was dead.

Jazz did grab his memory component. Still doesn't explain how he got his dino body.

Mindmaster wrote:But... I was told he was alive...

Did you play the game (or, as was my case, watch a walkthrough on YouTube)?

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:But... I was told he was alive...

Did you play the game (or, as was my case, watch a walkthrough on YouTube)?

Yes, I played the game (love the crap out of it). Jazz said he was "in some sort of stasis lock", so I assumed he was partially alive.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:But... I was told he was alive...

Did you play the game (or, as was my case, watch a walkthrough on YouTube)?

Yes, I played the game (love the crap out of it). Jazz said he was "in some sort of stasis lock", so I assumed he was partially alive.

Well, even if he was just in a coma, his body most likely wouldn't have survived the acid.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:But... I was told he was alive...

Did you play the game (or, as was my case, watch a walkthrough on YouTube)?

Yes, I played the game (love the crap out of it). Jazz said he was "in some sort of stasis lock", so I assumed he was partially alive.

Well, even if he was just in a coma, his body most likely wouldn't have survived the acid.

That is true, but sometimes I secretly hope the section of sewers he was in wasn't affected by the toxic waste, but then I dash my own hopes that wouldn't be the case.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:But... I was told he was alive...

Did you play the game (or, as was my case, watch a walkthrough on YouTube)?

Yes, I played the game (love the crap out of it). Jazz said he was "in some sort of stasis lock", so I assumed he was partially alive.

Well, even if he was just in a coma, his body most likely wouldn't have survived the acid.

That is true, but sometimes I secretly hope the section of sewers he was in wasn't affected by the toxic waste, but then I dash my own hopes that wouldn't be the case.

I'm still kinda hoping for some sort of side story to be written to explain Sludge's "not-dead-ness" in RotD.

I'm glad Sludge is alive, but I don't have high hopes for his characterization. No playable model in-game (even through DLC), and almost certainly no toy (unless he's in the show) means Sludge gets the shaft from Hasbro yet again.

He had no VA in game (not even on the recording from his own memory component) and I thought he was destroyed by the acid. If by some miracle he wasn't, his body didn't appear to have been reformatted into a sauropod yet. There is a lot to explain but I somehow doubt Hasbro is interested in telling us.