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Postby nick3425 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:42 pm

I Think They Were Low Aon Energon Or Something Cause In The Past, Characters Have Survived With How Movie Characters Died.
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Postby Soulinia » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:25 pm

I think they die when they don't have enough energon or when their spark goes dead.
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Postby Tramp » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:27 pm

Soulinia wrote:I think they die when they don't have enough energon or when their spark goes dead.


IF they run out of Energon, they simply go into temporary stasis lock.
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Postby Soulinia » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:45 pm

Tramp wrote:
IF they run out of Energon, they simply go into temporary stasis lock.


Good point.
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Postby Bumbled » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:01 am

They die by losing their Spark ;)^
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Postby Raymond101 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:52 am

Geez, so many criticisms of the G1 movie, and I agree with them all. It's an insult to all Autobot lovers everywhere.
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Postby Deadpool. » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:59 am

Ever noticed how some transformers never ever die despite the huge damage done to their physical bodies? Such as being crashed into by a stasis pod, being shot to smithereens etc. (namely, Waspinator). Any theories on that?
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Postby Tramp » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:59 pm

optronix91 wrote:Ever noticed how some transformers never ever die despite the huge damage done to their physical bodies? Such as being crashed into by a stasis pod, being shot to smithereens etc. (namely, Waspinator). Any theories on that?
The Dreamwave comics have an aexplaination for it in More than Meets the Eye #8. In a nut-shell, They are extreamely hard to truely kill. Even dramatic system damage can be repaired or heal eventually. It really takes a sustained and immence amount of damage to truely extinguishe the spark of a TransFormer. Damage to the neuro circuitry can also be potentially fatal and destruction of the brain casing is universally fatal, except in the cases of an aberrant Spark like Starscream's indestructible Spark. The movie supports this too becasue the TransFormers there, as in Dreamwave and other continuities, have regenerative systems. The most that usually happens when a TransFormer is severely, or even catastrphically damaged, is that they will be forced into stasis lock until repairs are made or they heal on their own.

This is what makes it possible for The "dead" TransFormers from this movie to possibly be ressurected for the next except for Frenzy, whose head was destroyed by his own weapon. I don't see him coming back.
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Postby Greg_Norris » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:06 am

when a tf's spark is extinguished, they die. remember Dinobot in BW? he got the living **** beat out of him and then some and as Rinox said "He's too far gone, even for stasis lock."
as far as Waspinator goes, I chalk part of him never dying up to being infused with Starscream's spark temporarily. which left Waspinator with a subtle inability to be destroyed.

Stasis lock is like passing out or going into a coma for tf's.

as far as Jazz goes, after being squashed by Megs (love the squeaky noise when he does it) then ripped in half and left on the ground for however long during the battle, what little energon remained in him was probably lost trying to keep himself alive. by the time everything is over, he couldnt sustain his own life support systems and shut down. just like Dinobot, he was beaten beyond repair and didnt have enough energon to keep himself alive to endure the battle or make it to safety.

Imagine a laptop, you unplug the power cord and after a little while you get warnings to shut it down or plug it back in. even if you put it in standby (stasis lock), it will still drain the battery and eventually go dead. yes I know, "Just plug it back in and it'll start back up". Sure. it works for a laptop, but when ur talkin about a "living" creature, its not that easy just to plug it back in. these are more than regular robots. or should I say...
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Postby Siren Prime » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:34 am

I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.
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Postby Siren Prime » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:11 am

Though ultimately I thinks it's their sparks that matter.
In the Energon series I saw a few TF's be blown to pieces, but their sparks were saved and they were rebuilt.
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Postby Scatterlung » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:08 pm

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Postby Tramp » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:58 pm

Siren Prime wrote:I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.

Well, you can't do a single shot to the spark because the spark doesn't reside in just one part of the body. It would be like trying to kill a person by trying to hit them in the soul. The Spark core, at least in the movie bots may be in the chest, but the spark itself fills the entire body, not any one part.
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Postby Deceptiwho? » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:56 pm

Jazz and Brawl I think were the only confirmed kills in the movie... but personally I think they are gonna bring Jazz back in the possible sequel...
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Postby Tramp » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:58 pm

Frenzy is a confirmed kill as well, His head was destroyed by his own weapon.
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:07 pm

Thats a tough one, if a TFs body is damaged to the point where it can no longer suport it's spark, that TF will "DIE"

However, sparks can be extracted, transplanted, or more often than not go into stasis lock to keep it safe while the body is damaged.

All(well mostly) the movie Decepticons where shown defeated, and mostlikely not dead, but in stasis lock, as they all fell in one piece, (except for Megs).

Jazz on the otherhand was torn into pieces most likely causeing his spark chamber to rupture, hence his spark disapated.

I for one both love and hate the idea of "The Spark", on one hand it does answer alot of questions about the lifespan of a TF. But on the otherhand it kind of seperates the life from the robot making TFs little more than disposable shells for these things as apose to true life forms.
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Postby Tramp » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:29 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:Thats a tough one, if a TFs body is damaged to the point where it can no longer suport it's spark, that TF will "DIE"

However, sparks can be extracted, transplanted, or more often than not go into stasis lock to keep it safe while the body is damaged.

All(well mostly) the movie Decepticons where shown defeated, and mostlikely not dead, but in stasis lock, as they all fell in one piece, (except for Megs).

Jazz on the otherhand was torn into pieces most likely causeing his spark chamber to rupture, hence his spark disapated.

I for one both love and hate the idea of "The Spark", on one hand it does answer alot of questions about the lifespan of a TF. But on the otherhand it kind of seperates the life from the robot making TFs little more than disposable shells for these things as apose to true life forms.


Actually, without some sort of special "containment vessel", once a spark leaves the body, it returns to the Allspark; it returns to Primus. Beast Machines is the only time we ever see sparks forcably extracted from a body, and it is immediately trapped in a containment vessel. all that is left is a lifeless shell, which could be animated like a zombie.

Jazz' "death" is still up for debate, There has been talk even by the voice actor who played him that he may return. The only one I feel is permanently dead is Frenzy because his head, and with it his brain casing, was destroyed when he split it down the middle with his own razor disk weapon. Destruction of the brain casing is universally fatal.
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Postby Siren Prime » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:26 pm

Tramp wrote:
Siren Prime wrote:I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.

Well, you can't do a single shot to the spark because the spark doesn't reside in just one part of the body. It would be like trying to kill a person by trying to hit them in the soul. The Spark core, at least in the movie bots may be in the chest, but the spark itself fills the entire body, not any one part.

Hmmm...
When I've actually seen the spark on Energon, specifically when Inferno was killed, it was just a little glowing light. Optimus actually held it in his hands if I remember right.
Inferno was rebuilt shortly after that.
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Postby Tramp » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:35 pm

Siren Prime wrote:
Tramp wrote:
Siren Prime wrote:I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.

Well, you can't do a single shot to the spark because the spark doesn't reside in just one part of the body. It would be like trying to kill a person by trying to hit them in the soul. The Spark core, at least in the movie bots may be in the chest, but the spark itself fills the entire body, not any one part.

Hmmm...
When I've actually seen the spark on Energon, specifically when Inferno was killed, it was just a little glowing light. Optimus actually held it in his hands if I remember right.
Inferno was rebuilt shortly after that.
Outside the body, that is all it is. Inside the body, it suffuses the entire being.
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Postby Unicron Singularity » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:44 pm

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They cease to function.


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Postby Siren Prime » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:47 pm

Tramp wrote:
Siren Prime wrote:
Tramp wrote:
Siren Prime wrote:I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.

Well, you can't do a single shot to the spark because the spark doesn't reside in just one part of the body. It would be like trying to kill a person by trying to hit them in the soul. The Spark core, at least in the movie bots may be in the chest, but the spark itself fills the entire body, not any one part.

Hmmm...
When I've actually seen the spark on Energon, specifically when Inferno was killed, it was just a little glowing light. Optimus actually held it in his hands if I remember right.
Inferno was rebuilt shortly after that.
Outside the body, that is all it is. Inside the body, it suffuses the entire being.

Yeah, that's what I figured.
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Postby Snowtron » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:08 am

"Im confused"
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Postby Tramp » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:15 am

About what?
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Postby Snowtron » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:46 pm

I would probably say a number of things could do it.
I direct shot into the spark of course would do it. Also having vitals damaged beyond repair.
Then also an extreme attack could send a TF into shock and their systems may give out.
I think it would be be unlikely for them to just die from old age unless they went a long time in disrepair.[/quote]
Well, you can't do a single shot to the spark because the spark doesn't reside in just one part of the body. It would be like trying to kill a person by trying to hit them in the soul. The Spark core, at least in the movie bots may be in the chest, but the spark itself fills the entire body, not any one part.[/quote]
Hmmm...
When I've actually seen the spark on Energon, specifically when Inferno was killed, it was just a little glowing light. Optimus actually held it in his hands if I remember right.
Inferno was rebuilt shortly after that.[/quote] Outside the body, that is all it is. Inside the body, it suffuses the entire being.[/quote]
Yeah, that's what I figured.[/quote]

you read that and tell me your not a bit confused that and every thing in genral.
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Postby Tramp » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:18 pm

ROFLMAO :)) :)) :))

OK, let's see if I can explain it to you. When inside the body, the spark, like the sould fills the entire body, not one particular part. Upon termination, the spark leaves the body, taking on the familiar spherical shape, before disappearing to rejoin the Allspark—the spark of Primus.
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