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Not including the comics because ive never really read any of them and because I really am not a big fan of comics. So really just in the G1 time line. I seem to remeber another time besides the movie.

Pyramitus wrote:Not including the comics because ive never really read any of them and because I really am not a big fan of comics. So really just in the G1 time line. I seem to remeber another time besides the movie.

He was brought back in Dark Awakening and 'died' at the end of that ep (although we never saw him die, his ship exploded). In Return of Prime, it turns out he was still alive but seemed to be dead/unconcious/sleeping/daydreaming of Elita 1 because he was completely unresponisve. The Quintesson brought him back to life and he kept living to the end of Rebirth.

However, he died in ep 3 of the japanese headmasters, to return in some manga years later. But someone else who knows more about that than I should continue the story from there.

Once in G1.

In the movie, what we saw walking about in Dark Awakening was an animated Autobot cadaver. The Quintessons used some circuit implants and some trace memory patterns to convince both the Autobots and what was left of Optimus' brain that Optimus was alive. The Matrix just awoke some other memory remnents, just enough for Optimus' corpse to know what was right and wrong.

So, ignoring the Japanese continuity, yes, he only died once.

Insurgent wrote:However, he died in ep 3 of the japanese headmasters, to return in some manga years later. But someone else who knows more about that than I should continue the story from there.

Indeed. The bot we know as Optimus Prime (or Convoy in Japan) was bought back in the Victory series as Victory Leo, destroyed, and later brought back AGAIN as Star Convoy in the Battlestars manga. So, I guess that makes 4 times in all the animated continuities.

Not a fan of comics? They're usually the best written media of most franchises such as Transformers, Daredevil or Batman.

I mean, look at the TF cartoons, most including most of G1, are crap.

On topic, I wish Optimus would stay dead. Much prefer Rodimus Prime.

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Once in G1.

In the movie, what we saw walking about in Dark Awakening was an animated Autobot cadaver. The Quintessons used some circuit implants and some trace memory patterns to convince both the Autobots and what was left of Optimus' brain that Optimus was alive. The Matrix just awoke some other memory remnents, just enough for Optimus' corpse to know what was right and wrong.

So, ignoring the Japanese continuity, yes, he only died once.

Well you can't exactly igmore the Japanese continuity, because their version of Headmasters is directly from the US continuity of G1 events.

It's just what you prefer.

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:

Insurgent wrote:However, he died in ep 3 of the japanese headmasters, to return in some manga years later. But someone else who knows more about that than I should continue the story from there.

Indeed. The bot we know as Optimus Prime (or Convoy in Japan) was bought back in the Victory series as Victory Leo, destroyed, and later brought back AGAIN as Star Convoy in the Battlestars manga. So, I guess that makes 4 times in all the animated continuities.

First of all, in Masterforce, that is not Optimus Prime/Convoy, that is God Ginrai, a seperate character from Convoy.

In Masterforce, they originally built a new body for O Prime/Convoy, but he was dead since Headmasters (Japan), so the body was used by it's Godmaster, Jinrai. It is not Convoy at all.

When Black Zarak or Devil Z awakened the transformers, they no longer needed the Godmaster to transform, and he was known as God Ginrai, just without the human counterpart.

In Victory, God Ginrai was destroyed, and rebuilt into Vicory Leo.

In the manga about Star Convoy, it's still not exactly Convoy, and he is controlled by Hot Rod...or something like that, I can't remember so someone help me out.

So Optimus Prime died once in the US G1 continuity, and died twice in the Japanese continuity.

So I count 1 or 2, just pick which continuity you wnat to go by.

Death #1 - TF Movie

ReActavite #1 - Dark Awakeaing - qunits partilly revive Op Prime in an attempt tp destroy the bots

Death #2 (assummed) - Dark Awakeing - his ship explodes as a star goes nova

ReActivate #2 - Return of Op Prime - Jessica and Gregory retrives Primes body while testing a special metal.. His body ends up being used as bait to spread the "Hate Plague". SkyLinx gets a quint to bring Prime back to stop the hate plague.

- End of US Cont -

Death #3 - Birth od Double Convoy - Convoy sacrifices himself to victor sigma to save seibertron (only for it to be destroyed a few eps later)..

Seibertron Is In Eminet Danger pt 2 - Seibertron blows up and Rodimus Prime runs away with the matrix (to search for a new home)..

Masterforce - A transector that looks like Convoy is descovered.. In Big Book Of Masterforce, It is said that this transector was ment to be a new body for Convoy, but is not Convoy (becomes known as (God/Super) Ginrai - name of the human that finds it and ultimatly becomes its God Master partner)..

Victory - Awaken Victory Leo - A damaged God Ginrai is rebuilt into Victory Leo

ReActivate #3 - Battlestars, Return of Convoy - In japaneese magna, Hot Rodimus usues the Matrix and Zodiac Energy (energy source from Zone) to bring Convoy back to live as a Battle Master (or is it a Micro Master) named Star Convoy

loomdog32 wrote:Death #1 - TF Movie

ReActavite #1 - Dark Awakeaing - qunits partilly revive Op Prime in an attempt tp destroy the bots

Death #2 (assummed) - Dark Awakeing - his ship explodes as a star goes nova

ReActivate #2 - Return of Op Prime - Melissa Fairbourne retrives Primes body while testing a special metal.. His body ends up being used as bait to spread the "Hate Plague". SkyLinx gets a quint to bring Prime back to stop the hate plague.

- End of US Cont -

Death #3 - Birth od Double Convoy - Convoy sacrifices himself to victor sigma to save seibertron (only for it to be destroyed a few eps later)..

Seibertron Is In Eminet Danger pt 2 - Seibertron blows up and Rodimus Prime runs away with the matrix (to search for a new home)..

Masterforce - A transector that looks like Convoy is descovered.. In Big Book Of Masterforce, It is said that this transector was ment to be a new body for Convoy, but is not Convoy (becomes known as (God/Super) Ginrai - name of the human that finds it and ultimatly becomes its God Master partner)..

Victory - Awaken Victory Leo - A damaged God Ginrai is rebuilt into Victory Leo

ReActivate #3 - Battlestars, Return of Convoy - In japaneese magna, Hot Rodimus usues the Matrix and Zodiac Energy (energy source from Zone) to bring Convoy back to live as a Battle Master (or is it a Micro Master) named Star Convoy

Pretty much what I said in my post.

Not enough times. He's still around.

loomdog32 wrote:ReActivate #2 - Return of Op Prime - Melissa Fairbourne retrives Primes body while testing a special metal..

That is not Melissa Fairborne. Just some scientist lady.

loomdog32 wrote:Death #1 - TF Movie

ReActavite #1 - Dark Awakeaing - qunits partilly revive Op Prime in an attempt tp destroy the bots

Death #2 (assummed) - Dark Awakeing - his ship explodes as a star goes nova

ReActivate #2 - Return of Op Prime - Melissa Fairbourne retrives Primes body while testing a special metal.. His body ends up being used as bait to spread the "Hate Plague". SkyLinx gets a quint to bring Prime back to stop the hate plague.

- End of US Cont -

Death #3 - Birth od Double Convoy - Convoy sacrifices himself to victor sigma to save seibertron (only for it to be destroyed a few eps later)..

Seibertron Is In Eminet Danger pt 2 - Seibertron blows up and Rodimus Prime runs away with the matrix (to search for a new home)..

Masterforce - A transector that looks like Convoy is descovered.. In Big Book Of Masterforce, It is said that this transector was ment to be a new body for Convoy, but is not Convoy (becomes known as (God/Super) Ginrai - name of the human that finds it and ultimatly becomes its God Master partner)..

Victory - Awaken Victory Leo - A damaged God Ginrai is rebuilt into Victory Leo

ReActivate #3 - Battlestars, Return of Convoy - In japaneese magna, Hot Rodimus usues the Matrix and Zodiac Energy (energy source from Zone) to bring Convoy back to live as a Battle Master (or is it a Micro Master) named Star Convoy

..so...confuing!

uhhh... ur right.. it was a female scientist named jessica and a disgrunteled gergory (that was hurt by megatron and blamed all transfromers)

See, it's only because of the additional deaths in the comics that he GETS this reputation at all. He died in a video game duel, he came back as a Powermaster, he died fighting Unicron, he came back in his Action Master body, he died fighting the Swarm, and was then reconstructed by it.

And there's the knock-on "Optimus death" effect which saw Optimus Primal blown up in space to return as a Transmetal, die fighting Megatron during Beast Machines and return by simply choosing not to join the Allspark, then to finally die at the end of the series, as well as Armada Optimus's death by the Hydra Cannon, and his recreation by the Mini-Cons.

It's a wierd cycle that the movie kicked off.

Chris McFeely wrote:It's a wierd cycle that the movie kicked off.

Same with the over used Megatron to Galvatron theory....

too many my friend too many

ubject says it.....

bvzxa wrote:

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:So, ignoring the Japanese continuity, yes, he only died once.

Well you can't exactly igmore the Japanese continuity, because their version of Headmasters is directly from the US continuity of G1 events.

Sure I can. They talk in moonspeak and I can't understand it, so I ignore it. Problem solved. OP died once in the G1 continuity and that's fine by me. Now as for Beast Wars/Beast Machines...I can't even honestly tell anymore. And the comics, yikes.

Suffice to say Optimus Prime is the closest to a Jesus Christ figure I have seen in modern North American culture. That's part of his appeal.

Mechanurgist wrote:Suffice to say Optimus Prime is the closest to a Jesus Christ figure I have seen in modern North American culture. That's part of his appeal.

Is he? I have a hard time imagining Jesus running around with a big gun blasting the crap out of evil robots.

Unchrasimatic wrote:

Mechanurgist wrote:Suffice to say Optimus Prime is the closest to a Jesus Christ figure I have seen in modern North American culture. That's part of his appeal.

Is he? I have a hard time imagining Jesus running around with a big gun blasting the crap out of evil robots.

Jesus drives around in a mini nascar and carrys a shotgun on Conan O'Brian's show.