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how is the tattoo doing now?
as a professionally licensed tattoo artist i can tell you scabbing is not necessarily a sign of infection. scabbing can be caused by friction or rubbing of clothes against the tattoo during the healing process. many times it's from the artist overworking the skin while applying the tattoo. depending on how bad the scabbing is, when it falls off it may take out some of the color or even minorly scar the skin. any whorthwhile, reputable tattoo shop will offer free touch ups if needed.

Sweet Tattoo I cant wait to finish my sleeves off, so addictive.

Awesome tat... way to fly the 'Con colors! I have a plain old G1 Decepticon logo on my left shoulder.

Nightscreech wrote:Sweet Tattoo I cant wait to finish my sleeves off, so addictive.

I agree... after you get one, you start getting inspirations for the next one & can't wait to get that done... then the next one...

My fiancee stopped me after #3.

goshjosh95 wrote:Awesome tat... way to fly the 'Con colors! I have a plain old G1 Decepticon logo on my left shoulder.

Nightscreech wrote:Sweet Tattoo I cant wait to finish my sleeves off, so addictive.

I agree... after you get one, you start getting inspirations for the next one & can't wait to get that done... then the next one...

My fiancee stopped me after #3.

bummer... oh well i'm single yay more tattoos for me

hellkitty wrote:Scabbing actually isn't very good. Nor is pain.

Are you using an antibiotic ointment on it? (Isn't bacitracin what they tell you to use? It's been a while and I forget). When I had the ones on my chest done, I put ointment on, then a folded kleenex (to keep the stuff off my bra) and changed that every few hours. They never got dry, never scabbed or peeled, and they never hurt. You might have managed to get an infection, which is very very bad. Considering that a tattoo needle is violating one of your major infection barriers (your skin) a couple of THOUSAND times, you have to be careful. Not just for your tat, but for your health.

It's been several days--you should NOT be feeling any pain beyond like a mild sunburn by this point. If you are, please see a doctor. And if it starts to smell bad, like necrosis, GO TO THE ER.

Edit: Oh, yeah, and if you see red streaks under your skin, go to the ER at light speed. That's blood poisoning and can be fatal. And yes, you can get it from a bad ink.

HK, the place you went to didn't tell you this? Are they licensed?

yeah they did everything right and have liscences but i bruise a lillte easy and my skin is a tad bit of a baby lol, my skin i swear it tricks itself into being in agony, when all i can do is swallow the pain and walk it off

So are you OK now?

Rodimus Prime wrote:So are you OK now?

im fine now, feel alot better

Very nice. I've been pondering getting an Autobot Symbol on my shoulder for some time, but am still uncertain.
Can i ask a question?...

Why did you choose to get it done on your breast? I've never understood why women get tats on a part of there body that even without a tatto, will get attention. Many times unwanted attention.

5150 Cruiser wrote:Why did you choose to get it done on your breast? I've never understood why women get tats on a part of there body that even without a tatto, will get attention. Many times unwanted attention.

I can't answer for ML, but I have matching tattoos on my chest, and I'm a girl, so maybe, just possibly, my opinion's valid. Probably not, though. I hope you don't mind another female's perspective, too.

Only the very first tattoo I got when I was young and stupid is visible when I'm dressed. Unfortunately, the professional world in which I work still frowns upon ink, especially for women. I had the dean of the school once pull me aside and talk badly about one of my coworkers who had a visible tattoo. (He actually tried to deny her promotion because she didn't 'present a professional appearance'.) So, discretion is kinda key.

The other part is, I got my tattoos for *me*. That means nobody has to see them. They're not FOR other people, they're for me. The ones I've gotten after my first were all sort of rituals: I had a part of my body I was having problems with, and my tattoo marked a way of trying to make that better, a sort of 'here, now at least you have something pretty'. So I have a pretty large one on the base of my spine, because I have a broken back. I've spent years of my life hating having a big chest (guys used to moo at me in high school, to this date I have never been able to find a button down shirt that fits my shoulders but doesn't have a huge *gap* pull across the bosoms), so their matching inks were my way of making them a little less 'giant bladders of fat stapled to my chest to guarantee no one will ever take me seriously no matter how much doorkicking I do here' and more 'oooooh, pretty!'.

As long as I'm wearing even a bra or bikini top, mine are concealed, so they don't draw any extra attention. (Not that Old 'N' Pasty here has ever worn a bikini). My coworker, the one the dean was talking about, has the korean word for 'woman' right in her cleavage. That's highly visible, especially with her clothes, and it does draw the eye (trust me, I willingly look into NO WOMAN's Laurentian Abyss), but I'm actually pretty awed that she's got enough body confidence that it doesn't bother her. If she's willing to pay the price of possibly losing promotion or tenure (we'll find out this year) because she doesn't fit The Industry's image, that's more power to her. Or the few male students who have taken that as an invitation to make nasty comments or talk about her on RMP or have solicited sex because they think tattoos mean a girl is easy. It's not a risk I would take, but I'm old and I need job security.

HK, dogs in France go 'ouaf ouaf'.

hellkitty wrote:
I can't answer for ML, but I have matching tattoos on my chest, and I'm a girl, so maybe, just possibly, my opinion's valid. Probably not, though. I hope you don't mind another female's perspective, too.

I absolutely appreciate your, and other females input on this subject. Its something I've been wanting to ask for quite some time.

hellkitty wrote: Only the very first tattoo I got when I was young and stupid is visible when I'm dressed. Unfortunately, the professional world in which I work still frowns upon ink, especially for women. I had the dean of the school once pull me aside and talk badly about one of my coworkers who had a visible tattoo. (He actually tried to deny her promotion because she didn't 'present a professional appearance'.) So, discretion is kinda key.

This makes sense depending on what kind of profession your in. So for that matter, your reasoning makes sense.

hellkitty wrote:The other part is, I got my tattoos for *me*. That means nobody has to see them. They're not FOR other people, they're for me. The ones I've gotten after my first were all sort of rituals: I had a part of my body I was having problems with, and my tattoo marked a way of trying to make that better, a sort of 'here, now at least you have something pretty'.

I just want to clarify, that i have no problems with Tats on females for the most part. As long as there done in a tasteful manner and not overly done. Though bottom line is its their/your body and you do to it as you please. But you bring up a good point about doing getting tats at a young age and not thinking of the repercussions they could bring later in there life. Whether it be preventing them from getting a job, the tat fading/stretching, or just regretting getting them all toechter. I respect your reasoning for yours as it seems to have true meaning for you, and not something that you choose just cause it "Looked cool at the time" so to speak.

hellkitty wrote:So I have a pretty large one on the base of my spine, because I have a broken back. I've spent years of my life hating having a big chest (guys used to moo at me in high school, to this date I have never been able to find a button down shirt that fits my shoulders but doesn't have a huge *gap* pull across the bosoms), so their matching inks were my way of making them a little less 'giant bladders of fat stapled to my chest to guarantee no one will ever take me seriously no matter how much doorkicking I do here' and more 'oooooh, pretty!'.

Have you tried any specialty stores? I don't know how big you are (and i don't expect you to post that here either) but i dated a girl years ago with a DDDcup and she had the same problem. She found a specialty store that sold clothes that had large chests in mind. They also helped cover up how big she really was. helped keep perverted eyes like myself from popping out of the sockets.

hellkitty wrote:As long as I'm wearing even a bra or bikini top, mine are concealed, so they don't draw any extra attention. (Not that Old 'N' Pasty here has ever worn a bikini). My coworker, the one the dean was talking about, has the korean word for 'woman' right in her cleavage. That's highly visible, especially with her clothes, and it does draw the eye (trust me, I willingly look into NO WOMAN's Laurentian Abyss), but I'm actually pretty awed that she's got enough body confidence that it doesn't bother her. If she's willing to pay the price of possibly losing promotion or tenure (we'll find out this year) because she doesn't fit The Industry's image, that's more power to her. Or the few male students who have taken that as an invitation to make nasty comments or talk about her on RMP or have solicited sex because they think tattoos mean a girl is easy. It's not a risk I would take, but I'm old and I need job security.

HK, dogs in France go 'ouaf ouaf'.

And that's the real question i had. In your case it seems that only you and your man would be privileged to your art. That's perfectly understandable and i don't see anything wrong with that. But in ML420 and your coworkers case the tat is clearly visible with even a regular tank top or low cut shirt bring in possible unwanted attention. I say possible cause it very well may not bother her. but i can't count how many times I've seen a girl with tats on there tits and couldn't help but stare. (it doesn't help that I'm a Boob guy either lol) only to get a nasty stare back, or them quickly try and cover up. I mean, if you don't like the attention, then why add something that will help attract it? This is the million dollar question...

5150 Cruiser wrote: I mean, if you don't like the attention, then why add something that will help attract it? This is the million dollar question...

Short answer is that especially *young* women don't understand the power their bodies have over men. Please don't be offended, guys, but men are basically pretty visually stimulated. They see something they like, they want to look at it some more. Young women sometimes aren't ready for the kind of attention they draw--they think they can handle it, but when it actually happens, it's more than they bargained for.

Longer answer, by example:

I have dozens of stories just like this, but this is the most recent. Had a student last year. Her first paper, responding to a video I'd shown the class about rap music videos, was full of things like, no, these women aren't being exploited at all; they signed the contract and knew what they were getting themselves into; they're really smart because they've figured out that men are dumb enough to pay them money just to look at them dance; and they were beautiful so obviously, anyone who has a problem with these women is just jealous. Just to let you know her starting point.

Midsemester, she disappeared. She shows up a few weeks later in my office to explain where she's been and to ask if I would keep her in the class. Turns out, you guessed it, she got raped. She dressed to party--middy tops and low rise jeans and stiletto heels and stuff--and apparently, one of her male friends finally had enough of her being a 'c***tease' as he put it, and just took what she had on display for himself.

Now, of course, that's awful and that guy is a scumbag. And in a perfect world, a girl should be able to wear whatever she wants, friend or no friend. I'm all for that. But, hey, it ain't a perfect world. Some guys don't respect boundaries--they see, they want to touch. Of course, not all guys! Not even MOST guys. But it only takes one scumbag to alter the course of a woman's self-esteem. There really isn't anything a guy goes through that compares--there's nothing that happens to men that gives the message that, hey, you're just a pretty piece of meat here for my consumption.

It's a LOT of power, the pretty female body. I mean, hell, if it weren't powerful, we probably wouldn't be bombarded by pictures of beautiful women selling us everything from watches to vacations to cell phone plans.

What girl doesn't want the positive side of that attention? I admit, even *I* occasionally wish some guy would just jawdrop when I walked by. But there's a negative side to that attention, and unfortunately, when most girls really get that message, it's too late. Their nasty looks at you looking at their chichis THEY think is a lesson to you on 'respect'. They think they're wielding power--look, but don't touch,...but don't look like *THAT*, that's scary!

HK, that's why I like robots: they don't stare at my rack.

Sorry to hear about your student. That's awful. At no time do i ever feel that any women wearing skimpy clothes or tats on her tits is ever an open invitation to be some frat boys rubbing post against her will. IMO, there's never an excuse for this behavior in a male.
But i do feel that a female does need to take some responsibility for herself before and after situations like these. Like i said, there's no excuse for a man doing this to a women. But i feel many women fail to look back and reflect..
"maybe i should be more careful about the parties i go to. The way i dress.."
Again, this is no excuse for rape, but again, like you said, many are young and are unable to deal with the added attention they cause themselves, or are unable to deal with situations they put themselves in.Example...

My niece started college last year and while at a party, meet to who she thought was a "Nice guy". After a couple drinks she invited him back to her dorm to talk. While she had every intention to just hang out, talk away from the party, he didn't. After he found out she wasn't putting out, he got irritated, started screaming at her, and proceeded to storm out of the room leaving a trail of her belongings in the hallway. Thank the lord nothing happened other than her getting really freaked out.
After he left, she called campus police and then her family. While the police were taking their report her mother held her in her arms and proceed to tell her she did nothing wrong. Now i mainly went to make sure she was OK, and to drive her mother who was in a frantic about the whole situation. I didn't plan on saying anything since i didn't feel it was my place, but at that moment i felt i need to chime in.
I told her that while there is no excuse for rape, she needed to be more smart in a situation like this. She had no business inviting a guy she only knew for a couple hours back to her dorm at the middle of the night. We had these discussions before she left for college about "Whats on young boys minds" and she should have been a little smarter than this. The cops immediately backed me up, And although it took time, both the mother and my niece agreed that this could have been avoided with a little common sense on my her part.
Now not all girls "ask for it" so to speak.

hellkitty wrote:

What girl doesn't want the positive side of that attention? I admit, even *I* occasionally wish some guy would just jawdrop when I walked by. But there's a negative side to that attention, and unfortunately, when most girls really get that message, it's too late. Their nasty looks at you looking at their chichis THEY think is a lesson to you on 'respect'. They think they're wielding power--look, but don't touch,...but don't look like *THAT*, that's scary!

HK, that's why I like robots: they don't stare at my rack.

And there's nothing wrong with wanting some positive male attention. If your body can help you get that attention, i don't see anything wrong with flaunting a little bit.
Its going over board and then complaining about it that gets me. Oh well. Thank you for your responses hellkittyI'm still curious to hear what MegatronsLady420
has to say on this subject. As well as any other females perspective.

A transformers tattoo is cool. A female transformers fan is cool too. But a transformers tattoo on a hot girl's chest - awesome!

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Sora+ wrote:Looks awesome, MegatronsLady420.

5150 Cruiser wrote:Why did you choose to get it done on your breast? I've never understood why women get tats on a part of there body that even without a tatto, will get attention. Many times unwanted attention.

I can't answer for ML420 either, but I'm female and in my case I got a tat on my chest because it's "right above my heart". Mine is an Autobot insignia accompanied by a flame, so I wanted it to look like the flames of passion coming from my heart. I like feeling a heartbeat under the insignia I adore.

thats the same reason i got mine there,m its not right on top of my heart but its close, of course itlooks kinda cute there too but still the decepticon symbol is one with my beating heart, a part of ME!

MegatronsLady, if that tattoo is 1 inch by 2 inches then you must be very petite. It seems to be taking up most of your breast. I'd say it looks at least twice that size.

Very nice art though.

Mykltron wrote:MegatronsLady, if that tattoo is 1 inch by 2 inches then you must be very petite. It seems to be taking up most of your breast. I'd say it looks at least twice that size.

Very nice art though.

it might be a bit bigger, but it was my guestimation, i'm only 5'2" and 120 pounds

Very cool! I have the decepticon insignia tattoo also. Just the outline though. I couldn't decide between black or purple.
I'm dying to get one of Soundwave but I'm not sure where I would want it...

GreyGhost wrote:Very cool! I have the decepticon insignia tattoo also. Just the outline though. I couldn't decide between black or purple.
I'm dying to get one of Soundwave but I'm not sure where I would want it...

How about covering your entire back?

Mykltron wrote:

GreyGhost wrote:Very cool! I have the decepticon insignia tattoo also. Just the outline though. I couldn't decide between black or purple.
I'm dying to get one of Soundwave but I'm not sure where I would want it...

How about covering your entire back?

At the risk of sounding completely stupid (but that's never stopped me before), and speaking as a person WITH a tattoo on my back, the problem with tattoos on your back is you don't get to admire it very well. It's cool that everyone else gets to admire it, but *I want to, too!*

HK, not vain, but vain about my ink.

Still living at home so gettin a tat is not a option. My mum would go crazy if I did. 'It makes you trashy" and all the other crap excuses. I read about white ink tats maybe I could get away with one of those. I'll have my Autobot symbol tat one day.

Elita One wrote:Still living at home so gettin a tat is not a option. My mum would go crazy if I did. 'It makes you trashy" and all the other crap excuses. I read about white ink tats maybe I could get away with one of those. I'll have my Autobot symbol tat one day.

tatts are not trashy, tatts are a beautiful expression of who you really are, what you stand for, why you are the way you are, and who you will be in the future. For example my next two tatt will be a "IN LOVING MEMEORY" with a pink chihuahua and angel features on the chihuahua that shows how much i care for other people and how loving i am. The other tatt i'm getting is going to be a bully breed collage and at the bottom its going to say "Its a Bully's World" that symbolizes strength, loyalty, bravery, and love not just for the bull breeds but also for the people around me. Anyone who says they're "trashy" "for hussies" really has no idead what the definition of a tattoo really does for people. An autobot symbol says you'll go as far as dieing for your people, you're loyal, trustable, caring, peaceful and ultrfriendly. My D-cept symbol represents that I don't back down easily, that i dan't take crap from others, that i can take a hit and land one too, that i have a bit of a wild side, that i have little patience with nonsence, and that I can be funny but when it comes to bid'niss I'm on the job, and that I'm also hardworking and will stop at no costs to get what i'm doing done.
Isn't it wierd how much a tattoo can say?

This is not a right/wrong issue. It's a generational thing. Older people find tattoos offensive and low-class. WHen I got my first ink, my mother told me, rather like Elita's, that the only people who had tattoos were convicts and drug addicts.

Truth is, that was her experience. It wasn't some ridiculous thing she made up on the spot. Having worked her whole life in hospitals, the people she saw coming in with tattoos fell into one of those two categories. She got so good she could identify which prison the work had been done in some times.

Tattoos in America have for a long time been associated with negative or lower economic class elements of society. It's changing, but slowly. To older folks, when very few people had tats, the tats were had by people who were social 'outlaws' or outcastes--that correlation made sense. Now that more people are getting them, they are beginning to lose that automatic association. But it's slow going.

I respected my mother's opinion enough that all of my ink is entirely covered when I am dressed to go out. Her comment woke me up to the fact that some people WILL judge me. Do I care? Not all the time, no. Do I care if it's the guy deciding to hire me or not? Oh, yeah. Call me a sell-out, but if my 62 year old Dean of Faculty doesn't like inked women, he shall see no ink from me. It's a small price to pay (I'm covering up, not changing who I am) for an otherwise great job.

Many people still get tattoos SPECIFICALLY because of the outsider/outcaste image they project. Some of us don't. But many people can't tell the difference between the self-expression tattooers and the 'look at what a badass I am with all this ink!' tattooers.

HK, enough cards are stacked against me already.

Tyrannotaur wrote:That's really awesome actually.

I've been toying with the idea of getting one. My Sister has two, a heart on her ankle and a skull on her shoulder blade.

I was thinking of getting the Triforce from Zelda on one bicep and either the Decipticon or Autobot Symbol on my other. I'll probably wait till I work out more and have actual defined muscles because I am afraid it will stretch out or get distorted otherwise.
I also don't know which faction to get, I could also get Predacon or Maximal.. I have to think about it more.

For now I'll just stick to my Autobot Skin on my 360 and DS and the Decipticon sticker on my Hyundai.

Hey if you're getting a Triforce then you're almost as big of a nerd as me. I've already got my Star Wars tattoo, but I'm planning an Autobot (which will be really dark purple, a Triforce AND one for Twilight! I'm also horsing around with Aeon Flux, but haven't created a design that I like just yet. NERD? YES ME!!

El Duque wrote:Cool tat, I plan on getting a Autobot faction symbol at some point. I want it to look like the skin has been torn back and you can see the symbol hiding underneath along with some other bio-mech elements, kind of like a pretender.

I know I'm commenting on a really old thread, but that would be an awesome tattoo.