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Convotron wrote:What's the source of the new cartoon of Transformers in 2010? I'd like to read more about it.
As for ideas, I primarily want a well written story more than anything else.
With respect to overall design of the characters, I'd like to see something like EJ Su's take on Transformers:
Seeker concept:
Ironhide concept:
Bumblebee concept:
Megatron concept:
Prowl concept:
I love the use of familiar iconic details from G1 combined with a more contemporary mecha sensibility. For the most part, we have recongizable facial features, which is one failing for many of the live action movie designs: They're a bit too complex to take in at a glance. I love the overall art direction for the movie Transformers characters but they're very "busy" and hard to fully appreciate in frantic motion.
zero-kaiser wrote:-hugs Carriemus and HK muchly- ...I'm glad I dont have to kidnap you both and zip-tie you together until you make up
Carriemus Prime wrote:ZK you would kidnap us and zip tie us what kind of freaky **** are you into....
Burn wrote:If it makes you feel better I could grope you?
Nemesis Rodimus wrote:Sorry, I changed it to 'assume'. I mean, a year and a half (the rest of '09, all of '10) is a long time to wait for the next series. Don't you think? If I have to wait that long, my eyes will blow out.
Maybe.
I need to see the next series now!
Also, that Bumblebee is horrifying. No offense to anyone, I don't like it though. It is anyone else's opinion if they like it. Mine is that the face...oh, why? Everyone else is okay but Bumblebee just...![]()
Again, no offense to whoever drew it, but I don't like it. Sorry.
zombybunnie wrote:Also Convotron, love the look of the TFs, reminds me of neon genesis Evangellion, but still pretty cool.
Convotron wrote:With respect to overall design of the characters, I'd like to see something like EJ Su's take on Transformers:
Seeker concept:
Ironhide concept:
Bumblebee concept:
Megatron concept:
Prowl concept:
Nemesis Rodimus wrote:I'm all for that. Let's hope it's not this:
http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/defau ... t&aid=4115
That is seriously horrifying, but at the same time, I almost like it. Almost. The character designs are cool. Bumblebee's vehicle mode is utter win. But the animation. Oh, so primitive.
Convotron wrote:What's the source of the new cartoon of Transformers in 2010? I'd like to read more about it.
As for ideas, I primarily want a well written story more than anything else.
With respect to overall design of the characters, I'd like to see something like EJ Su's take on Transformers:
Seeker concept:
Ironhide concept:
Bumblebee concept:
Megatron concept:
Prowl concept:
I love the use of familiar iconic details from G1 combined with a more contemporary mecha sensibility. For the most part, we have recongizable facial features, which is one failing for many of the live action movie designs: They're a bit too complex to take in at a glance. I love the overall art direction for the movie Transformers characters but they're very "busy" and hard to fully appreciate in frantic motion.
Nemesis Rodimus wrote:Help! I'm trying to upload a picture and I don't know how! Can someone help me?
I also like the idea of Maximals and Predacons in addition to Autobots and Decepticons. How about the leader of the Maximals is Apelinq or Primal Prime? And how about a renegade team of robots harrasses both Autobots and Decepticons? Vehicons.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Rial Vestro wrote:Primal Prime is a little too close a relitive to Optimus Prime and I wanted a character who would be a bit different from the norm.
For Decepticons and Predacons I could of turned Megatron and Galvatron into two different characters and had them lead the Decepticons and Predacons
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
I think he meant appearance-wise.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Primal Prime is a little too close a relitive to Optimus Prime and I wanted a character who would be a bit different from the norm.
Actually Primal Prime is the living Matrix given a body and brought to life by the Vok.
And I think that's where he got the idea from.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:For Decepticons and Predacons I could of turned Megatron and Galvatron into two different characters and had them lead the Decepticons and Predacons
It was kind of done already.
One of the Japanese Beast Wars had Galvatron and his brother Gigatron leading the bad guys.Galvatron was over all leader but Gigatron lead a sub-group of vehicular based baddies.
BTW Gigatron had the body of G1 Megatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I think he meant appearance-wise.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Primal Prime is a little too close a relitive to Optimus Prime and I wanted a character who would be a bit different from the norm.
Actually Primal Prime is the living Matrix given a body and brought to life by the Vok.
Sabrblade wrote:And I think that's where he got the idea from.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:For Decepticons and Predacons I could of turned Megatron and Galvatron into two different characters and had them lead the Decepticons and Predacons
It was kind of done already.
One of the Japanese Beast Wars had Galvatron and his brother Gigatron leading the bad guys.Galvatron was over all leader but Gigatron lead a sub-group of vehicular based baddies.
BTW Gigatron had the body of G1 Megatron.
BTW, it's "Megastorm", not "Gigatron". Megastorm got upgraded to "Gigastorm".
Megastorm had G2 Megatron's tank body. G1 Megs' G1 body was a gun.
Gigastorm had G1 Trypicon's body retooled.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Sabrblade wrote:I think he meant appearance-wise.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Primal Prime is a little too close a relitive to Optimus Prime and I wanted a character who would be a bit different from the norm.
Actually Primal Prime is the living Matrix given a body and brought to life by the Vok.
This idea kinda runs counter to the other idea I had posted in another thread - the previous idea was simply to wipe the slate clean totally, whereas this one takes elements of the TF mythos - particularly from the more recent series - and twists them up a bit.
Cast of characters: A large cast consisting of a few core groups.
Setting: Cybertron, time period not determined in the series, at least not exactly - actually, in Earth chronology it would be sometime in the early 1950s, but since we wouldn't be going to Earth in the series (at least not in this one) that wouldn't be important; the time frame would only be important for the immediate spinoff/follow-up.
Continuity: Brand spankin' new.
Divisions/Groups: None as the series begins. The Great War ended millions of years ago, between the Cybertron colonists who gave their adopted homeworld their name and the deviant Destrons who tried to take it over. Characters whose factions we've known for years would be working together, though tenuously in some cases, at the start of the series until the action really picks up.
Purpose/Story: Robin Hood Meets John Carpenter's The Thing By Way Of Green Lantern. An ancient bio-engineered horror uncovered by Shockwave threatens to escape its confinement and engulf the entire planet, so Megatron and his immediate cronies start weeding out the strongest of Cybertronians to make their getaway and leave the planet to burn. Some Autobots-to-be discover this and set about trying to expose Megatron's deceit, becoming outlaws in the process.
Visual Style: Mainframe-level CGI.
Target Audience: Wide ranging, same as with the DCAU shows.
Episodes: Stories span at least one episode, maybe two now and then.
Special powers: At least one prominent character has a Super Mode
To elaborate further: the protagonist would be the "teenager" Orion Pax (his design would probably best be described as the E-hobby Kup repaint with a blue Hot Rod head); and yes, Optimus Prime would still be a prominent character - and yes, Orion and Optimus are still one and the same - but more on that a bit later.
The backstory would be that Cybertron is actually one of several colony worlds of the Transformer race, and that the Great War has been over for nine million years, ever since the original colonists, the Cybertrons, drove the deviant Destron army off the planet; the Autobot and Decepticon factions as we know them do not yet exist - peace on Cybertron is kept by an elite defense force led by Ultra Magnus, Megatron, Starscream, and Prowl. However, things change when Megatron's scientific advisor Shockwave unearths a spacecraft that crashed on Cybertron four million years prior, and dig out a bizarre bio-mechanical carcass - which promptly infects the dig team and causes them to mutate and fuse into each other to create multi-limbed, multi-faced horrors full of hatred. The Seekers manage to contain the threat - after promptly showing up Ironhide's efforts to destroy the beast - but it gets Megatron to thinking that it could represent a failed retaliation by the Destrons, and if the infection were to spread, Cybertron and its population would be unsalvageable - thus, Megatron begins to initialize a 'survival of the fittest' strategy, to weed out those Transformers that fit certain standards of perfection, to neutralize those who don't and might actually cause a ruckus for it, and catch the next starship out of Iacon before things get out of control and the populace is any wiser.
Unbeknownst to Megatron, however, each of the other colony worlds have had the benefit of having a chosen one to lead them against just such a horror - each one selected via a mysterious cosmic power here known as the Prime Matrix, which not only holds the key to eliminating the virus but also the key to the long-lost origins of the Transformer race. When the Seekers interpret an oncoming vessel as another Destron attack, they promptly disobey Magnus' field orders and shoot it down, mortally wounding its sole occupant, the sage Alpha Trion and causing him to crash along the outskirts of the city-state just as a disgruntled Orion is going for a drive. Orion can't save the dying pilot, but before he goes Alpha transfers the Prime Matrix to Orion, telling the young 'bot that he will be able to access its power and wisdom in times of crisis. Alpha then turns coal-black and crumbles to dust, and Orion realizes he must warn the people of Iacon of the growing danger, knowing full well he'll become a hunted outlaw in the process.
Fortunately, for him, he gains a band of allies that include Jazz, Bumblebee, Ironhide, and Ratchet - all of whom have just been dismissed from their government jobs by Megatron in favor of Megs' own hand-picked talents, which serves to diminish Magnus' power base, even more so when Prowl is left for dead after discovering Megatron's escape plan and quickly replaced by Barricade. With the decadent Iacon falling into the iron grip of Megatron, and any who oppose him getting promptly thrashed, Orion and his merry mechs (Robin Hood reference totally intended) begin sieging the archives where Orion once worked; when Grimlock and his Dynobot team try to close in on the escaping 'bots, Orion is able to tap the Prime Matrix to materialize (a la TF: Energon) a heavily-armed trailer that also sports an additional surprise: a Super Mode which transforms Orion Pax into Optimus Prime, leader of the newly-christened Autobots, taking the long-lost Cybertron slave brand as their insignia and ultimately burning it into the battered Grimlock's chest, a la Zorro, as a message to Megatron.
From there, the series chronicles Megatron's attempts to capture and destroy Prime and his growing band of allies as the Autobots outmaneuver and outsmart Megs' foot soldiers at every turn, also staying one step ahead of the by-the-book Ultra Magnus as well as Magnus' right hand, Elita-1, who's determined to bring in Optimus Prime yet finds herself increasingly drawn to him. And on top of that, there's still also the pesky little matter of those Destron-mutated Transformers that have managed to escape custody and absorb a maximum of five Transformer carcasses apiece, making them five times as strong, five times as smart, and five times as twisted...
I admit to taking couple of conventions of the TF mythos and trying to spin them in different directions - the increasingly-evil Decepticon characters being worshipped by millions as heroes while the Autobots are hunted down and shot at for their courage and selflessness (as opposed to the 'mirror universe' schtick, or even "Beast Machines" where the planet's practically abandoned); Orion Pax and Optimus Prime being dual identities as opposed to one being permanently 'reformatted' into the other; the Transformers inadvertently creating the Quintessons, instead of the intentional other way around. In addition, there were some aspects of some of the newer TF 'toons I did sort of bring back - Optimus' Super Mode, multiple Transformer planets, Magnus and Optimus being in opposition to each other.
Rial Vestro wrote:Basically I just would find it a little odd and hard to belive that the leaders of two different groups from two different planets would both be named "Prime".
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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