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...what would you do?

Most of you have pondered about this, and quite a number of you have actually drawn out a number of continuities.


Here's my idea:


Transformers: The Last Great War

It would basicly be what Furman tried to do with IDW, but All Hail Megatron kinda flushed it all down the toilet.

At any rate I'd borrow a ton of characters from pre-existing stories. I'd also tell a story that has a beginning and a end. We don't just keep on going til cancellation.

The story would be split up into multiple chapters, each chapter has sidestories that will carry over in the chapters that follow up. There's also a large cast available, we'll have a core cast and the soldiers in the field.

Here's my idea for the main story:

Chapter 1: War on Cybertron
- This chapter will start shortly before the war begins.
- We get to see how Megatron eventually led a revolution against the oppressive goverment and become corrupted as he gained power himself.
- Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus will feature heavily, their rise to power will be chronicled.
- Megatron innitially gained his followers through pitfighting and other arena matches. He nearly got Grimlock and Sunstreaker to follow him. Grimlock left for his own reasons. Sunstreaker was convinced by Sideswipe to join the Autobots.
- The invention of triplechangers and gestalts will be shown.
- Optimus Prime becomes a Prime near the end of the chapter. We'll actually get to see Sentinel Prime do his thing before Megatron wastes him.
- Like in the War for Cybertron game, Cybertron's core will be shut down for millions of years, thus leaving Cybertron uninhabitable.
- The launch of the Ark closes this chapter.

Chapter 2: War on Earth
- We fast forward millions of years, the Autobots and Decepticons are fighting all over the universe. Normally the Decepticons infiltrate a world and destabilize it both socially and politically to cause wars. The Decepticons later invade these war torn worlds and take anything they can use. They usually turn the surviving population into slaves.
- The Autobots try to stop this from happening, though they only have a 50% successrate.
- The Witwicky family, Sparkplug, Spike and Buster make first contact with the Autobots. They keep this a secret for many years, they even help them on covert missions. Spike and Buster eventually join Skywatch and are actually helping the Autobots from the inside.
- There is only a small group of Autobots on Earth.
- The Decepticons launch a fullscale invasion and Earth gets conquered.
- All the world goverments eventually surrender and cooperate since the Decepticons have a fleet parked in orbit capable of ending all life on the planet.
- The Autobots arrive and defeat the Decepticons in a long campaign.
- The Autobots leave Earth while sharing some advanced tech to help the Earth rebuild.

Chapter 3: Return to Cybertron
- Cybertron is reactivating and sends out a signal to all Transformers.
- A campaign starts to repopulate Cybertron, both Autobots and Decepticons fight to get as many territories as possible.
- Cybertron is capable of producing massive amounts of energon, the faction that holds the planet will likely win the war.
- Cybertron is golden in color since it got energized again.
- Turmoil in the Decepticon ranks, many Decepticon warlords will attemp to wrest control from Megatron but ultimately fail.
- A great number of subgroups will be introduced.
- The war is eventually resolved by declaring Cybertron neutral. Damaging the planet even more would probably doom it to another shutdown. The Autobots and Decepticons each roughly control a half of the planet. No fighting is allowed on the planet, but the rest of the universe is fair game.

Chapter 4: Ancient enemy
- Starscream manages to assassinate Megatron by sabotaging the spacebridge he was using. Megatron disappears without a trace.
- Starscream loses his claim to leadership, Shockwave instead leads Megatron's troops. The other warlords don't wish to follow Shockwave and the Decepticon empire splinters.
- Various outposts near the edge of both Autobot and Decepticon territories get attacked by a mysterious third faction, the G2 Cybertronians.
- The G2 Cybertronians are led by Liege Maximo, the first Decepticon.
- A long campaign is fought against the G2 Cybertronians. The G1 Autobots and Decepticons team up and eventually manage to push through to Liege Maximo's base.
- Vector Prime and Nexus Prime show up early in this chapter. They will face Liege Maximo near the end of this chapter.
- Liege Maximo is beaten and sealed away. He however had a failsafe. Liege Maximo had a number of agents infiltrate Cybertron during chapter 3. It was their mission to find out where the Fallen was sealed. These agents had special sparks capable of breaching the seal.
- The Fallen returns.
- Megatron is retrieved with a upgraded G2 body. He was sent deep within G2 territory early in the chapter. Liege Maximo had his damaged body retrieved and upgraded. The plans Maximo had for him were largely unknown since Megatron was kept in stasis.

Chapter 5: Resolution
- Megatron returns and assumes leadership again.
- The Fallen along with his agents manage to communicate with Unicron. They receive instructions to allow Unicron into this universe.
- Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge show up. At first it seems that they are working with the Fallen, but later it turns out that they are actually trying to get rid of him.
- Galvatron and his mooks are from 100 years in the future. Galvatron reveals that he was once Megatron, but that he was changed by Unicron to become his herald.
- Galvatron defeats Optimus Prime and takes the Matrix from him.
- Optimus Prime is rebuilt into Powermaster Prime to be able to take on Galvatron.
- The Fallen defeats G2 Megatron and tosses him into a pitchblack portal.
- Vector Prime confronts the Fallen, but is beaten. He quickly throws himself into the black portal.
- Galvatron manages to lock the Fallen into the plasma energychamber and keeps him confined there.
- Nexus Prime invites both the Autobot and Decepticon leaders to a meeting and explains their origins. He unfortunately tells them that Unicron is coming and they only have 2 years to prepare for it.
- Galvatron had meanwhile been very busy to make his way to Cybertron's core. There he inserts the Matrix into the core. The Last Autobot appears and asks why he is doing this.
- Optimus Prime also receives a Matrix from Scourge, but this Matrix is slightly different since it looks a bit damaged and worn. Scourge explains that it will work for what they are planning and then disappears.
- Future Galvatron takes charge of the Decepticons.
- Unicron appears, attacks a old G2 Cybertronian starfortress and reformats it's two most powerful warriors into Cyclonus and Scourge. The rest gets transformed into clones of them.
- Another Galvaton emerges from Unicron's surface, he is sent by Unicron take charge of the Decepticons and crush the Autobots.
- This new Galvatron is revealed to be same Megatron that was thrown into the black portal. He and his army attack Cybertron, but both Autobots and Decepticons fight back.
- Future Galvatron manages to take out the new Galvatron and his goons with help from the Last Autobot.
- Vector Prime returns, he is heavily damaged. He takes the new Galvatron along with Cyclonus and Scourge and sends them to the future.
- Unicron finally arrives.
- The endgame starts, the remaining original 13 manage to hold Unicron back for a while.
- Future Galvatron reveals that he had been working with Vector Prime all along.
- Optimus and Galvatron manage to get inside Unicron once there he opens the Matrix. The Matrix heavily damages Unicron, but it doesn't destroy him.
- All Transformers get teleported away from Cybertron as it transforms into robotmode. Primus now takes on Unicron himself and manages to free Optimus and Galvatron.
- Primus takes heavy damage but eventually manages to defeat Unicron.

Epilogue
- Primus transforms back into planet mode. All the Transformers are transported back to the surface.
- Primus goes dormant again.
- The Matrix in his core took damage during the fight, it now resembles the one Scourge gave to Optimus. This Matrix is mostly depleted.
- The Fallen was sealed away in the same prison as Liege Maximo.
- The remaing members of the 13 originals negotiate a peacetreaty between the Autobots and Decepticons. The Decepticons no longer invade other worlds and become peacekeepers like the Autobots.
- Optimus Prime retires, he passes his leadership on to Rodimus Prime.
- Galvatron also retires from leadership, he leaves with Vector Prime to fight Unicron in other dimensions.
- 100 years in the future we see how Galvatron was released from Unicron's influence. The now replenished Matrix located at the core is handed to him by Rodimus Prime to use in the past. This Galvatron is sent back to the beginning of chapter 5.
- Cybertron of the future is a utopia. Autobots and Decepticons no longer exist, they now call themselves Cybertronians. The remnants of the G2 Cybertronian empire also joined up with them. They now maintain the peace in the universe.
- Optimus Prime is said to have replaced Alpha Trion.


Faction structures
Each faction has multiple armies, many characters that received toys in the past are in these armies as elite soldiers. The rest are essentially generics, redshirts and mooks, we really love our cannonfodder...

Autobot Leaders:
Supreme Commander: Optimus Prime
Optimus doesn't really need a introduction. He leads all Autobots and was chosen to carry the Matrix after Sentinel got slaughtered.

Ultra Magnus:
He's essentially Optimus' righthand man. He's really good at his job, he can deal with that now. His troops include most of the characters we saw in season 1 and 2 of the cartoon along with the movie. Ultra Magnus' base of operations is Metroplex. Ultra Magnus' second in command is Prowl.

Fortress Maximus/Cerebros
Leader of the Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, Trainbots and Technobots. Fortress Maximus was originally bonded to the Nebulon called Galen, Galen's death at the hands of Scorponok quickly forced Spike to become Cerebros' new headmaster partner.
Max's second in command is Shoki.

Dai Atlas
A powerful and capable leader, he was put in charge of energon distribution. The R&D divisions under Dai Atlas managed to resize Transformers into Micromasters, thus conserving even more fuel. He also commands all the Micromaster gestalts. Dai Atlas second in command is Countdown.

Metalhawk
Leader of the Pretenders, his troops interact more directly with alien civilisations. His base of Operations is Grand Maximus.
Metalhawk's second in command is Grand, though this role is often relegated to Cloudburst on some fieldmissions.

Star Sabre
A living legend, Star Sabre was already a elite Autobot under Sentinel Prime. Star Sabre's army specializes in freeing worlds from Decepticon occupation. For this reason he pooled his resources with Ultra Magnus to liberate Earth. Star Sabre's second in command is Victory Leo.


Decepticon Leaders
The Decepticon powerstructure is somewhat different from the Autobots. The Decepticon leaders are refered to as Lords instead of commanders.

Supreme overlord: Megatron
Megatron created the Decepticons to overthrow the then corrupt council of elders. Megatron's creed is "might makes right" for this reason we see many Decepticons usurp positions of others. Megatron and those under him often use Trypticon as a base. Megatron assigned a number of "loyal" Decepticons to answer directly to him:

- Shockwave, second in command
- Soundwave, head of espionage and information gathering
- Onslaught, primary strategist (along with Shockwave)
- Starscream, aircommander
- Motormaster, groundassault

Scorponok
Scorponok revised his transformation to match Fortress Maximus. Now Zarak combines with a regular sized body (MegaZarak). This body later becomes Scorponok's head. Scorponok commands all the Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, Seacons and Terrorcons. Scorponok is officially the leader of his army, in truth he shares leadership with the brutal Overlord.

Thunderwing
Thunderwing, a archenemy of Metalhawk. He commands all the Pretenders. Thunderwing has caused many wars among alien races and moved in to finish off any remaining factions. He usually moves from planet to planet with his Metroplex clone Metrotitan.
Thunderwing's second in command is Bludgeon.

Straxus
A minor leader among the Decepticons, his main task is to guard the energon production sites and improve output. Straxus will often resort to forced labor to meet his quota's. Staxus fields a army of Micromasters in addition to his regular army. Staxus was also responsible for creating the slave army known as Minicons. Straxus' second in command is Ratbat.

Deszaras
Deszaras is a mystery even among the other Decepticon leaders. Rumors indicate that he was a prisoner in Iacon before the war, why he was arrested is still unknown. Deszaras was quite impressed with Monstructor, hence he decided to clone him and create Dinoking. He is also the master of the unstoppable Liokaiser. Deszaras second in command is Leozack.

Galvatron
Galvatron replaced Megatron and made some changes to the commandstructure placing Cyclonus and Scourge above the others.
Starscream was quickly relieved of his duties and put into stasislock. Shockwave went renegade with Starscream until he came back during the battle with Unicron. Galvatron's second in command is Cyclonus, though Scourge will often work in conjunction with him.


Other Factions

G2 Cybertronians
Liege Maximo's faction, a stellar empire easily more powerful then either Autobots or Decepticons. This faction splintered when Liege Maximo was defeated.

Junkions
Space scavengers. They don't have the nonsense "tv talk" in this version. Instead they scavenge what they can find and trade with others. They eventually become trading partners with the Autobots. The Junkions are at no point actively at war with the Decepticons.

Neutrals
Led by Elita One. Their new homeworld is called Paradron. They remained neutral in the conflict until a full scale Decepticon assault forced them to fight back. Paradron became a independant ally of the Autobots. Though many inhabitants of the planet have joined the Autobots and left the planet for good. Paradron is also a trading partner of the Autobots. Sandstorm lived on Paradron before joining the Wreckers. Drift ended up on this world before the Decepticon assault, it was here that he changed sides.

Quintesons
Once a noble species of scientists and explorers. They became corrupted and decadent when a number of the Fallen's agents made contact with them. The Quintesons grew greedy and wanted to found a empire of their own. First they needed slaves in the form of Cybertronians, so they kidnapped a number TF's to study their technology. They quickly learned how to create sparks and various servants. A number of the servants were the Allicons, Sharkticons, slaves etc. This caused them to come into conflict with the ancient Autobots led by Nova Prime. All the "slaves" were given homes on Cybertron and merged with the population.


Items of note

Armies:
All armies have a few gestalts or gestalt sized warriors in their arsenal. Most of the bases are also citybots. The largest parts of all armies are generics, think of the armies seen in the War For Cybertron game.

There'd also be the inclusion of characters outside of G1. They'd ofcourse be adapted to resemble G1 designs:

Tidalwave (Armada) He'd be gestalt sized
Slipstream (Animated) The female seeker
Sideways (Armada) Works for the Fallen
Lugnut (Animated) We already saw him in AHM
Bulkhead (Animated)
Hostshot (Armada)

The list goes on, but you get the idea.

Characters
There's too many characters to list, but I'll dive into a few.

Starscream
He's actually good at plotting in this story. Megatron never found out that Starscream was the one behind the spacebridge accident. Galvatron found this out because he picked this information up in the future. Starscream was eventually restored by Shockwave by using a Pretendershell stolen from Metalhawk.

Nightbeat and Minerva
Minerva is what the Japanese got instead of Nightbeat. For this reason I'd make them siblings.

Galvatron
He's the wildcard in the story. His original appearance would sport his season 3 colorsheme. His future appearance would have his grey comic colors. This Galvatron is vstly different from all the others since he isn't crazy nor evil. Galvatron is like Megatron when he was still fighting the corrupt goverment.

Prowl
Based on his Budiansky version. He's a good leader, not a whiney bureaucrat.

Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime
We see him grow during the story. He doesn't get shoved in as a leader. He gets chosen as a leader by Optimus once the war is over. A new leader for a new era.

Impactor
You can't have the Wreckers without this guy, it just wouldn't be the same. He gets to lead the Autobot's most brutal elite unit.

Arcee
IDW version, definately. She takes a liking to Springer and joins the Wreckers. She eventually slaughters Jhiaxus in chapter 4.

Silverbolt
He overcame his fear of heights a long time ago. He befriends Hot Rod and goes on a mission with him in the distant past. Silverbolt is also good friends with Ironhide.


secondary plots

The death of Scrounge
Blaster had great regrets about not being able to save Scrounge from the smeltingpool. Scrounge's death would change Blaster forever.

Retrieving the Allspark key
Hot Rod gets sent back to the end of Golden age to stop Sideways from stealing the Allspark key. Being alone in this alien era he gets teamed up with Silverbolt. He and Silverbolt stop Sideways, but Silverbolt takes some extra time to show how the Decepticons were treated like garbage before they rebelled. Hot Rod gains insight into the nature of the conflict.

The Minicons
Straxus had the minicons created as slaves, the Decepticon Micromasters would be their taskmasters. A few of them manage to escape to Earth and tell Bumblebee, Jazz and Sparkplug (human) about their plight. Jazz and Bumblebee don't know what to make of them. The leader of the escaped minicons takes on the name of Sparkplug because he never had a name before. The Minicons are freed when Dai Atlas' forces invade Jhiaxus' territory. Most of the Minicons eventually move to Paradron to get away from the war, some join with either the Autobots or Decepticons.

The Quinteson incursion
The Quintesons wished to expand their empire. They signed a non-aggression pact with the Decepticons. The Quintesons wanted to enslave various Autobot outposts but were defeated by Metalhawk. The Fallen would kill most of their leaders to put them in line again...

Ironhide and Kup
These guys are old, they used to serve on the elite guard long before the war started. They would see the end of the war and retire in peace. But before that they were mentors to the younger Autobots.

Retrieving the Allspark key
The Allspark key disappeared around the end of the golden age. The Fallen sent Sideways back through a timeportal to retrieve it. Vector Prime notices this and sends back Hot Rod and Silverbolt to beat Sideways to the key. Hot Rod learns a great deal from Silverbolt about this era, most notably how bad the pre-Decepticons were being treated. They succeed and give the key to Alpha Trion. Vector Prime sent Hot Rod back on purpose, he wanted to teach him the errors of a decadent and arrogant society.


Just a few of the stories that would make up the whole.



So, that's my idea, it could probably use some tweaking in places and can definately be fleshed out more.

Anybody else got any ideas they've been kicking around for a while now?

Upon first reading the only real alterations and/or additions I would make would be to 1) have a secondary plot centered on Starscream and the formation of the Seekers; 2) Have Starscream's attempt at assassination foiled by another within the Decepticon ranks -- not by someone seeking to protect Megatron, but rather a 'Con that seeks the mantle of power Starscream has coveted for so long.


- Bob

Nice except for the time travelling Galvatron but thats only because I was never a big fan of time travel.

Bobton03 wrote:Upon first reading the only real alterations and/or additions I would make would be to 1) have a secondary plot centered on Starscream and the formation of the Seekers; 2) Have Starscream's attempt at assassination foiled by another within the Decepticon ranks -- not by someone seeking to protect Megatron, but rather a 'Con that seeks the mantle of power Starscream has coveted for so long.


- Bob

Nice idea, I didn't go into detail, there's too many characters to write about. My entire idea for Starscream would be that he's actually good at plotting. He's not constantly yelling that he'll replace Megatron some day.

The formation of the seekers would have been addressed in chapter 1.

Chironext wrote:Nice except for the time travelling Galvatron but thats only because I was never a big fan of time travel.

It's all still open for revision. I wanted to have Vector Prime use his powers for once.

Nice continuity, pulling from many sides of the multiverse!

ponycorn wrote:Nice continuity, pulling from many sides of the multiverse!

Thanks

how about when Nexus shows up why not have Alpha trion comment he's to old to fight anymore an even apologize for attacking(Axeim Nexus and SG) saying that unlike Vector and Nexus he's bound to the rules of the universe he's created in.

I would have the Transformers not just fighting over control of Cybertron, they would have an entire solar system to fight over. The inner planets would be under the control of the Autobots and the outer planets would be under the control of the Decepticons, with Cybertron the world that each side controls half of and whoever gets control of Cybertron could ultimatly win the war. The Transformers would stay away from Earth.

There is also an asteroid belt and several moons that are home to the Micromasters/Mini-Cons, Omnicons, Maximals, Preadcons, and Terrorcons.

I posted this here earlier, but later on I went back and added more details and clarified and embellished some things. I also did rough drawings for the Cybertronian versions of some of the Autobots and Decepticons (really just elements of War Within, Transtech the Movies and Animated thrown together, for lack of a better approach).

I never did settle exactly on what the third series would be, beyond establishing that it would have post-apocalyptic tones in homage to the Mad Max and Terminator movies, and that Megatron and the Decepticons would re-emerge in force.

Along the lines of Cyberstrike's posting, I think that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict on planets beyond Earth is a lucrative area for story-arc exploration. How about this for a title of such an arc: "Transformers: Wars of Empire".

In addition, I think that the following topics could easily yield a plenitude of material to either buttress, expand upon, or retcon the current continuity:

1.) Antebellum Cybertron / The early years of the wars on Cybertron
2.) The rise of the Second Generation
3.) Kup's war stories


- Bob

Holy crap that was long. I admire your effort and enthusiasm.

Now, whatever new or different continuity I would come up with, the only concrete thing I can think of is I'd make Grimlock a much deeper and central character, and not make him so goofy. Like WW Grimlock or from the end of the G1 comics.

Impressive, too bad there aren't more novels out there for TFs like there are Star Wars and Trek. That would make some good stuff.

What is stopping us from writing such novels? Are there licensing issues involved with seeking to publish Transformers novels?

From my perspective - beyond any possible licensing issues - there is no reason why we cannot have more Transformers novels. Since we have a plenitude of plot and character ideas, it seems like all we need is the time to write the novels and a publisher willing to commit to our literary aspirations.


- Bob

I like it except for a couple things.

There will be no mention of the 13 Primes, god someone shoot Bay for ever bringing that crap to life. Please go back to the classic Quintesson theory where its almost plausible to believe.

If I saw a new history, show or comic where Primus enters the story I will hunt down Furman myself.

*please someone jump in now and tell me how great matrix quest was, I will still be sitting here laughing*

Ok outside of that I think u have pretty good outline going however

Tristar wrote:how about when Nexus shows up why not have Alpha trion comment he's to old to fight anymore an even apologize for attacking(Axeim Nexus and SG) saying that unlike Vector and Nexus he's bound to the rules of the universe he's created in.

That could work, it would give him more depth then just being "the guy who rebuilt Prime".

Cyberstrike wrote:I would have the Transformers not just fighting over control of Cybertron, they would have an entire solar system to fight over. The inner planets would be under the control of the Autobots and the outer planets would be under the control of the Decepticons, with Cybertron the world that each side controls half of and whoever gets control of Cybertron could ultimatly win the war. The Transformers would stay away from Earth.

There is also an asteroid belt and several moons that are home to the Micromasters/Mini-Cons, Omnicons, Maximals, Preadcons, and Terrorcons.

Nice, I like the inclusion of the asteroid/moon based factions.

Jaw Crusher wrote:I posted this here earlier, but later on I went back and added more details and clarified and embellished some things. I also did rough drawings for the Cybertronian versions of some of the Autobots and Decepticons (really just elements of War Within, Transtech the Movies and Animated thrown together, for lack of a better approach).

I never did settle exactly on what the third series would be, beyond establishing that it would have post-apocalyptic tones in homage to the Mad Max and Terminator movies, and that Megatron and the Decepticons would re-emerge in force.

That's really good, too bad Hasbro isn't listening

Bobton03 wrote:Along the lines of Cyberstrike's posting, I think that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict on planets beyond Earth is a lucrative area for story-arc exploration. How about this for a title of such an arc: "Transformers: Wars of Empire".

In addition, I think that the following topics could easily yield a plenitude of material to either buttress, expand upon, or retcon the current continuity:

1.) Antebellum Cybertron / The early years of the wars on Cybertron
2.) The rise of the Second Generation
3.) Kup's war stories


- Bob

True, it seems that most people are usually more interested in what happens in space or on alien worlds. I guess that stories like "War Within" and "The Smelting Pool" are popular because of this.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Holy crap that was long. I admire your effort and enthusiasm.

Now, whatever new or different continuity I would come up with, the only concrete thing I can think of is I'd make Grimlock a much deeper and central character, and not make him so goofy. Like WW Grimlock or from the end of the G1 comics.

Comic Grimlock FTW! Unless he starts wearing a crown...

Sustain wrote:Impressive, too bad there aren't more novels out there for TFs like there are Star Wars and Trek. That would make some good stuff.

I might make a few 3D animated shorts, I've already partially finished a generic hand.
Though there's plenty of fanfic writers out there who've come up with excellent stories.

Bobton03 wrote:What is stopping us from writing such novels? Are there licensing issues involved with seeking to publish Transformers novels?

From my perspective - beyond any possible licensing issues - there is no reason why we cannot have more Transformers novels. Since we have a plenitude of plot and character ideas, it seems like all we need is the time to write the novels and a publisher willing to commit to our literary aspirations.


- Bob

I'm sure that someone with more legal insight into this could offer a answer.
It's not like there aren't any people who'd attempt this.

3.8TransAM wrote:I like it except for a couple things.

There will be no mention of the 13 Primes, god someone shoot Bay for ever bringing that crap to life. Please go back to the classic Quintesson theory where its almost plausible to believe.

If I saw a new history, show or comic where Primus enters the story I will hunt down Furman myself.

*please someone jump in now and tell me how great matrix quest was, I will still be sitting here laughing*

Ok outside of that I think u have pretty good outline going however

Bay didn't invent the 13 originals. The idea has been around since G2 (though it were 12 originals at the time).
I personally didn't like the Quinteson origin. The cartoon writers got lazy, the Quintesons were originally the creators of the Junkions in a earlier movie draft. They quickly attached this origin to the Autobots during FFOD.

The Primus origin gives Unicron a connection to the transformers and a reason to hunt them down.

Though I agree that the Matrix Quest was probably Furman's weakest story. The only good thing in it was when Thunderwing started trashing the Ark crew.



At any rate, keep 'em coming people.

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*please someone jump in now and tell me how great matrix quest was, I will still be sitting here laughing*[/quote

Issue #66 has one of the best ass-whoopings I've ever seen Optimus Prime take.

Bobton03 wrote:Along the lines of Cyberstrike's posting, I think that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict on planets beyond Earth is a lucrative area for story-arc exploration. How about this for a title of such an arc: "Transformers: Wars of Empire".

In addition, I think that the following topics could easily yield a plenitude of material to either buttress, expand upon, or retcon the current continuity:

1.) Antebellum Cybertron / The early years of the wars on Cybertron
2.) The rise of the Second Generation
3.) Kup's war stories


- Bob

I also have an idea for a spin-off of sorts called Transformers: Star City in which the Autobot's giant space station called Star City that obits Cybertron along with one Autobot battlecruiser, the Ark, and parts of 2 others (The Axlon and Steelhaven that are used to repair the Ark and Star City) and 3 short range freighters are blown across the galaxy and wind up on the farside of a HUGE Decepticon Empire Star City is badly damaged and it's rookie commander Optimus must figure out how to get Star City back home. Megatron sends Starscream and a huge Decepticon fleet to capture Star City, because deep in the core of Star City is the vault where the Autobots have put the most powerful artifacts (like the Matrix, the Cyber Keys, Omega Lock, The Key to Vector Sigma, the Axe of Primus, the Sword of Unicron, The Apex Armor, and more) for safe keeping.

Optimus also has deal with the Ark's commander Ultra Magnus, a seasoned war veteran, at the start Optimus and Ultra Magnus don't get a long at all and they always butt heads but over time learn to respect each other and become friends.

Cyberstrike wrote:

Bobton03 wrote:Along the lines of Cyberstrike's posting, I think that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict on planets beyond Earth is a lucrative area for story-arc exploration. How about this for a title of such an arc: "Transformers: Wars of Empire".

In addition, I think that the following topics could easily yield a plenitude of material to either buttress, expand upon, or retcon the current continuity:

1.) Antebellum Cybertron / The early years of the wars on Cybertron
2.) The rise of the Second Generation
3.) Kup's war stories


- Bob

I also have an idea for a spin-off of sorts called Transformers: Star City in which the Autobot's giant space station called Star City that obits Cybertron along with one Autobot battlecruiser, the Ark, and parts of 2 others (The Axlon and Steelhaven that are used to repair the Ark and Star City) and 3 short range freighters are blown across the galaxy and wind up on the farside of a HUGE Decepticon Empire Star City is badly damaged and it's rookie commander Optimus must figure out how to get Star City back home. Megatron sends Starscream and a huge Decepticon fleet to capture Star City, because deep in the core of Star City is the vault where the Autobots have put the most powerful artifacts (like the Matrix, the Cyber Keys, Omega Lock, The Key to Vector Sigma, the Axe of Primus, the Sword of Unicron, The Apex Armor, and more) for safe keeping.

Optimus also has deal with the Ark's commander Ultra Magnus, a seasoned war veteran, at the start Optimus and Ultra Magnus don't get a long at all and they always butt heads but over time learn to respect each other and become friends.

I really like that storyline, it's got something of a Battlestar Galactica/Robotech feel to it.

Though I suppose that I'd swap Optimus and Ultra Magnus with Hot Rod/Rodimus Minor and a guy like Star Saber or Dai Atlas if I'd adapt it into my own continuity idea.


Reading all this stuff makes me feel like adding in tons of other stuff to the general storyline I plotted out earlier.

Sustain wrote:Impressive, too bad there aren't more novels out there for TFs like there are Star Wars and Trek. That would make some good stuff.

We can dream. There's been TF novels released before, so hopefully Hasbro will open up some day. It's up to us to show them that'd be profitable, though.

Forward 2.0 wrote:

Sustain wrote:Impressive, too bad there aren't more novels out there for TFs like there are Star Wars and Trek. That would make some good stuff.

We can dream. There's been TF novels released before, so hopefully Hasbro will open up some day. It's up to us to show them that'd be profitable, though.

As a fanfic writer, I would love to propose something to them. Hopefully one day it will be possible.

I've got the trilogy.

Here is an idea I've been playing around with for a while.

Its an alternate reality story -

So the home planet is out of energy so the bots go off into space to find a new source and of course they wind up on earth. The Con's get here frist infiltrate the goverment, and military. Idea being manipulateing earths humans so that we would not even know there here or taking our planets resources.

After a while storys photo's and such get out, and like most UFO stuff we see on TV people start to report sightings and home video's and such.

Now this is where things change.... the autobots show up lead at first by Prime for the initial contact with planet earth, a war starts.... but then a army shows up with UltraMagnus as leader. Prime gets court marsheled for not simpley just taken the energy they needed for there dieing planet from the stupid flesh creatures.... that Magnus's in this plots case really has no respect for earth or anything living on it what so ever. All he see'es is his home planets dieing and really does not care what he has to do to get the energy to save it.

The Con's are thought to be wiped out during the conflict.... and earth is then under marshal law by the now corrupt autobot high command. You would see things like obay, and banners in the streets depicting the bots as rulers and over lords in the big citys.

Now most of this is taken care of useing flash backs.... showing the world getting blown apart by the war.... the cons defeat, the bots taking over... the planet earth slowly being strip mined.

The story actually starts when a lone male survivore wandering the post war land scape come across an old gas station where he finds a car has been locked away in there. He gets the idea to get the car running and use it to get around at night to avoid being detected.... the car turns out to be the only remaining Decepticon on the planet.

They set out on a cross country journey that there hopeing will end with the con escapeing earth, and the human finding a safe haven.

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I got this idea from watching the Bay movies actually and thinking to myself.... why dident they keep it to the home world being low on energy, and the transformers simply landing on earth looking for more energy to save there home planet.

Also I got to thinking wait so an alien race lands on earth and there going to ammm play nice with us humans? would they not think of us as being pathetic with our planets history and think controleing us would be a better idea then let us keep going with our own wars? Or maybe if its energy they want they wouldent have respect for any planets natives.

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So basically yeah a totaly different spin on the transformers idea. Taken from a more serious look at what would happen if a alien race came here how humans would be looked at by them. Play up on old war movie idea's, make it a more dark alternate grown up idea.

I actually have alot of writeing done for this I am just keeping to the basic ideas here. My original idea was a live action TV series spanning 3 to 4 years of a continueing story that would have a begining and a ending.

good idea? bad idea?

I'm not sure I'm doing this right but it would be semi movie, pre Earth though.

During their war, also using characters from other series that I find interesting, Tidal Wave, SixShot, Combiners, City bots(though for my personal scale, they are the same size as Combiners so...more of a base-bot). I would try to find ways to incorporate many TransFormers universes into this past movieverse world.

Of course, made by me, it would feature alot of new characters, most notably, my own combiner team(cue HORRIBLE corny name)...the Destructicons(yes, it sucks). The leader is similar to StarScream except that his plans are...better...he's not disloyal, but he thinks he would make a much better ruler than Megatron would.

Scourge would be there, secretly Scourge prime, I remember hearing that optimus was an orphan, Scourge would be his long lost brother or something. Serving as a general to Megatron along with several others. For all intents and purposes, in this story there are many second in commands(is that possible?) at the moment being StarScream, SoundWave, ShockWave, Scourge, Unnamed 8 armed TransFormer, and probably one or two more.

Too much on the characters...the story would focus on the origins of the war, the TransFormers, alot of things. I'd try to give it an explory G1 feeling to it, with it not focusing completely on the war and with Megatron having some more complex ideas and reasons for rule.

All I got for now...

I also had an idea for a movie future based off what I think the Jhiaxus and Straxus parts of Marvel g1 meant(which means very inaccurate since I never read them). In a future setting, the Cybertronian empire is the new rule. The Autobots and Decepticons ally in order to defeat them. As you can see, it has not been given much thought <_>

I blaim you for this Stormwolf. This is my first story outline since I was in high school.

Rise of the Autobots

 Vector Prime arriving in a new timeline observes the opening events a divergent timeline.
 During the battle inside Unicron before Hot Rod can get hold the Matrix of Leadership Galvatron manages to kill the young bot before he can Become Rodimus prime.
 Daniel, Spike, Jazz, Bumblebee, and Cliffjumper manage to link up with Springer whom they rescue from getting his neck crushed, Kup, and Arcee they all manage to bust through the chaos bringers unbroken eye causing the giant to back off Cybertron.
 While Unicron is busy repairing his eyes the Autobots link up with a small group of Decepticons near the Decepticon space Bridge among them is Shockwave, Octane, Astrotrain, Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet and few others. Forming an uneasy alliance they use the space bridge to escape to earth.
 With his optics partially repaired Unicron renews his assault on the transformer homeworld.
 Inside Unicron Galvatron glories in triumph over the dead form of Hot Rod and the Matrix goes dormant though most think it’s actually dead.
 Appalled by these events Vector Prime gathers a group of Transformers from various timelines in order to give some semblance of hope to his cybtronian brothers
- Prowl (Alternators)
- Skids (Alternators)
- Rodimus (Energon)
- Barricade (Energon)
- Tigerton (BW transmetal)
- Air razor (BW transmetal)
- Skyboom Shield (Armada)
- Star Saber (Armada)
- Team Bullet Train (RID)
- Landmine (cybertron)
- Ratchet (classics)
- Scourge (RID)
- Elita Seven/Drone Bodies(Her original body/Movie verses)

 Waking up onboard the Arc-2 Vector Prime explains what he knows about the knew universe the passengers which was described above.
 With there course set to Earth they wait and Ratchet Discovers Scourge in Stasis.
 A group of sweeps attack the Arc forcing the autobots into battle.
 During the course of the battle Scourge wakes up and engages the sweeps in battle ending the functions of his alternate reality counterpart.
 The Bullet train team demands Scourge be placed in Stasis but, Vector Prime manages to be lay there fears Scourge is just pleased to be free of his Megatron’s control.
 While enter the earth solar system they are attacked again this time by a much larger force. Scourge takes command helping the crew achieve relatively safe crash landing.
 Scourge orders and evac and sets the ship to auto-destruct blowing the drive core up right in faces of the decepticons.
 While in route to Autobot city or atleast where they think it should be they are ambushed by Autotroopers headmasters, during the scuffle the leader of who is also the designer of the auto troopers Chip Chase recognizes Prowl and the Autobot facation symbol most of the bots wear.
 Bringing the travelers back to there base Chip begins to disclose what happened after the battle with Unicron.
 When the Shockwave’s decepticons and the Autobots escaped Unicron they went there separate ways seeing as both factions had to restore there forces.
 After Cybertron’s destruction Unicron allowed Galvatron to return to earth his first stop Autobot city. Due to the attacks by Megatron and himself the Autobot forces where in no condtion to hold the line and where forced to retreat. At the same Time Unicron converted back into Planet mode roaming the cosmos once more.
 Using the parts of Autobot city Galvatron had it reconstructed into New Kaon using Trypticon as it’s core. Thankfully Metroplex’s memory banks and spark core had been pulled out by the Autobots.
 Not willing to sit and wait Galvatron unleashed the full might of Trypticon on the remaining Autobots who had holed up inside of the Arc.
 While most the Autobots died in the attack a select few had managed to survive and had gone underground.
 Feeling Arrogant Galvatron had Trypticon leave the Arc intact to use as a base of operations.
 At the same time Shockwave had gathered his forces and attempted to stage a coup against Galvatron unfortunately for Shockwave his miscalculated Galvatron’s power and most of his forces where either decimated or conscripted into Galvatron’s forces. Shockwave himself serving as a trophy and warning to any who appose him.
 After dealing with Autobots and Shockwave’s coup Galvatron began a campaign of terror spanning the entire world. To counter this threat using his knowledge of Transformers and engineering Chip Design the Autotroopers. Using the most advanced Bioengineering possible project transector was headed up. Chip himself has volunteered for the processes necessary to become one of the first Autotroopers.
 After hearing the story Scourge goes off on his own to confront Galvatron at his new base of operations New Kaon formally known as Autobot City.
 A sound of angry diesel alerts to Decepticons to Scourge’s approach on the city.
 Several Decepticons confront him outside the city and with the fury he is known for Scourge smashes through them.
 Once inside the city Galvatron deactivated Trypticon’s internal defense grid and sends his Top Lieutenants to confront the rampaging warrior.
 While Scourge was on his rampage the autobots realize he is gone and begin a search for him splitting into teams. Vector Prime relates the tale of why Scourge looks so much like Optimus Prime to Chip and his hopes that Scourges can become what he is meant be.
 Dropping the last Decepticon warrior Scourge confronts Galvatron the latter of whom makes the mistake of calling Scourge Optimus Prime in a black body.
 With his full strength Scourge manages to do the one thing no mech before him has ever done before, and that is knock Galvatron to the ground.
 The two of them struggle on the ground with Scourge managing to wrest the dead matrix free from Galvtraon’s neck.
 Following the trail of fallen decepticons the Autobots and there Human allies managed to get inside Trypticon.
 With the seemingly Dead matrix in hand Scourge feels something inside of it. This distraction allows Galvatron enough time to renew his attack proving that the two of them can go toe to toe on equal footing.
 Resting the Matrix away from Scourge Galvatron hurls him out the side of the tower they had been fighting in.
 When he next wakes Scourge is being watched over by Vector Prime and Rodimus. When they ask him what happened he tells them that he held the matrix that it wasn’t dead just dormant and he felt hope.
 The next day the Chip had gathered the regional commanders and the few remaining autobots on Earth.
 While the meeting was going on under protest Ratchet releases Scourge onto the base before he leaves the make shift med bay he asks Ratchet to do something for him.
 While the meeting is going on Scourge walks in holding a flag pole with a black flag with a painted Autobot emblem on it. Surprisingly printed on his shoulder in place of a decepticon emblem is the Autobot one.
 Scourge purposes a multi prong plan to give Galvatron a broken optiic.
 Scourge and a select group of Autobots will strike directly at New Kaon in order to take the Matrix and draw off the decepticons from the Arc.
 Once the attack on New Kaon begins the bulk of there forces will strike at the Arc.
 While Scourge engages Galvatron personally Shockwave who while lacking most of the body is still alive spots the Alternator bodies of Prowl and Skids using the internal sensors of Trypticon analyzes there bodies begins construction of his new body.
 With most of the Decepticons being recalled to New Kaon The bulk of the Autobot and human allies manage to take down the remaining Decepticons in the Arc.
 Scourge calls a retreat seeing as they are out numbered but, he remains to handle Galvatron and make sure another part of there plan comes to fruition.
 Once everyone is clear Rodimus who had been with Scourge Radioed in to him to inform him he and the others where clear.
 Thinking no longer as revenge seeking Beserker and thinking like a commander of men Scourge rips the Matrix from Galvatron’s neck and leaps out the command tower of the Decepticon fortress.
 Once Scourge hit’s the ground he presses a button on his wrist causing a chain reaction of explosens inside of Trypticon.
 Scourge makes a break for it and places the matrix inside his chest.
 Galvatron begins to give chase only to be stopped by Cyclonus who informs them that the Decepticons are in no condition to continue the fight.
 Arriving at the Arc Scourge is greeted by the Remaining Autobots and Human allies.
 During his trip the matrix had grown more and more alive within him and he could almost swear he felt the presence of something powerful yet comforting.
 Trying to return the Matrix Rodimus and Vector Prime they decline telling him it has already chosen who it should go to giving Scourge the title Prime and some how Scourge felt it was somehow right
 Commander Spike and the earth bound Autobots inform Scourge now Prime that they’ve secretly been working on a major project.
 Scourge Primes sends out a long range tranmission incoded on Autobots frequency for any and all Autobots to come to earth for refuge and informs them that while Decepticons have a foot hold so do the Autobots.

If you can't tell it's abit of a spin off from the movie something of a what if Hot Rod died before recieving the matrix. What If Vector Prime was a witness to these events and had the power to set things right? What if Vector Prime gave Scourge chance to become what he was meant to be? Would fall prey to his Decepticon programing or would he use it to bash some heads? With each character that Vector Prime recruits I plan on writting a spotlight first for those bots onboard the Arc 3 before and during there recruitment. The second set of spotlights will focus on the natives after Unicron's victory and before Scourge and the crew arrive.

Now here is a side story that takes place before and during Rise of the Autobots, I know the title isn't original but come on look who's it's about.

Maximum Dinobots

 After the battle with Unicron ending in Failure the Dinobots fly off into space.
 Grimlock in anger tries contacting his missing comrade in order to regroup only to find that he is only receiving a homing beacon, taking one last look at the battle for Cybertron almost longing to rejoin it he makes the decision to locate his missing officer.
 After months of flying through space the dinobots they encounter the Autobot shuttle Skylynx who offers them a ride to planet where there missing team mate is.
 As they arrive at the planet a powerful energy blast forces Skylynx to make an emergency landing.
 Once planet side the four Dinobots plus Skylynx who won’t be able fly for awhile have unfriendly encounter with natives.
 During the battle both the natives and the Dinobots are attacked by a swarm of Insecticons the likes of which the Dinobots have never seen.
 The Dinobots go into there Dinosaur modes and prove how truly savage they can be.
 After the battle the leader of the group of Natives who call themselves Beast formers introduces himself as White Leon.
 Leon leads the group to the caves where the revel beast formers makes there homes inside an active volcano.
 Leon explains that several centuries ago a ship crashed planet side and because there where no vechiles to disguise temselves in the survivors of the crash had to take on animal forms. Unfortunately the ship was a Decepticon ship and the survivors where just that Decepticons. Four of the crash survivors became insecticons Ransack, Venom, Barrage, and Chop Shop. while the remaining five would become the Predacons, Razorclaw, Divebomb, Headstrong, Rampage, and Tantrum
 The Decepticons would make there presence known by attacking the peaceful inhabitants of Beasst.
 White Leon’s ancestors where the first to stand up to The decepticon forces and for his trouble he was enslaved.
 Only recently did the natives of the planet manage to send out a distress call to which Oemga Supreme, Snarl, Pipes, and Beachcomber where sent to investigate.
 Leon relates that Omega had been hidden by the Native beast formers at the request of the other three due to his low power.
 Unfortunately when the three remaining Autobots confronted The Decepticons they had been captured.
 Snarl the last to be captured activated his homing beacon which is what attracted the attention of Sky Lynx and his fellow Dinobots.
 Grimlock steps up to the plate so they can rescue there fallen comrades.
 Leading expedition of the Dinobots, Skylynx and Beast Formers the arrive at the slave pits where they holding the Autobots prisoner.
 While the Dinobots do what they do best the Beast formers sneak into the pits and manage to slip by the guards.
 Once inside white Leon locates the Autobots who are bound in chains.
 In the middle of freeing the autobots Leon tells the three of them that the remaining Dinobots are outside fighting.
 With his strength renewed with knowledge that his brothers in arms are there Snarl breaks his chains and smashes a barrage clone under foot.
 After the battle Venom who had been in charge of the slave pit reports to his leader of the escapes he ends up taking one from Razorclaw who distributes the Venom clones to the remaining insecticons.
 Back at the rebels home Pipes repairs the Dinobots and prepares informs them that the crystal \growths inside the volcano are actually have the same properties as those found on Titan.
 Grimlock while not understanding the details orders Pipes to recharge Omega.
 Pipes mummbles something about doing it anyway and gets Beachcomber to assist in gathering some of the crystals.
 The Predacons track the Dinobots down to the very cave that the rebels have been using.
 Razorclaw calls out the Dinobots and informs everyone that the he allowed the rebels to exsist for the soul purpose of amusing himself and the other Predacons.
 Grimlock challenges the Predacon leader to combat.
 Amused Razorclaw accepts and the two of them engage in deadly mortal combat inside the volcano’s very core.
 While grimlock is fighting the Predacon leader he orders Slag and the other Dinobots to hold the Predacon’s at bay while Pipes, Beachcomber and Sky Lynx work to reactivate Omega.
 Unfortunately when Pipes and party arrive at Omega he’s covered in insecticon clones thankfully still intact.
 The insecticons order there clones to attack the three Autobots.
 Grimlock and Razorclaw have managed to fight there way just over the primary magma chamber.
 Tired and in worse condtion than Grimlock Razorclaw attempts one last desperate move and manages to force grimlock into the Magma below.
 Back with Pipes and Beachcomber White Leon sees his allies in danger and orders his forces to engage the clones in battle.
 With the Insecticons busy with the battle beasts Pipes gets to work reviving Omega.
 The three insecticons Barrage, Chop Shop, and Ransack attempt to engage Pipes only to be stopped by Sky Lynx who draws them off.
 Razorclaw angry, in pain, but victorious marches out of the Volcano and orders his forces to finish the Dinobots off.
 Deep inside the Magma chamber something inside of Grimlock snaps as he realizes his Dinobots are in danger.
 Razorclaw watches as the Dinobots are surrounded only to here a roar and feel the ground shaking
 The volcano has erupted causing all combants to halt what ever there doing.
 With a loud roar and a battle cry in his newly altered body Grimlock stomps the yard with the Predacons.
 Back at Omega the Volcano going up hasn’t stopped the Insecticons from harassing Sky Lynx having taken to munching on his wings.
 With two words Omega announces his name and stomps several clones flat before turning his weapons the original Insecticons completely vaporizing Ransack.
 Chop shop and Barrage thinking the better part of valor is retreat make a break for it.
 They don’t make it as Omega finishes the two remaining Insecticons the clones all breakdown.
 The Dinobots and the Beastformers, and Autobots all regroup at Omega who transforms into rocket mode.
 Not to far away the Predacons make there escape. Grimlock and the Dinobots vow to give chase board Omega with the rest of the Autobots.
 Elsewhere on the planet a former aid to the Predacons known as Alligatitron runs his fingers across Razorclaw’s make shift thrown before sitting in it himself.


I'm open to any suggestions on the Spotlights and or the Primary story or side stories. Just so you know I plan on making it a trilogy.

I posted this by accident, connection mishap and all....is there a way to delete this post?

Ok so I've got the first chapter planned out if I were to make one...
I think I have an idea of how to tie in everything I want...it just results in the Cybertronian Empire coming before everything.

Basically, where in G1 there were the OverLords, for this Movie-mix it's the Cybertronian Empire who's the corrupt government.

Chapter 1:Early Cybertron
-The Cybertronian empire is the Corrupt empire not the Quintessons or OverLords(or whatever they were called).
-Megatron is still an underground fighter.
-Optimus is just a worker-The Allspark takes place of the Matrix
-StarScream is a scientist, and has been secretly building weapons for a rebellion
-The Liege Maximo is the head of everything Cybertron
-Jhiaxus, Straxus, and other Cybertronian Empire TransFormers are sort of the sub commanders
-The C.E. was a different type of TransFormer(Autuobots are workers, Decepticons are fighters etc.) and believed they were simply better, they had superior numbers and rebelled against their Autobot and Decepticon brothers to take Cybertron.
-Despite this, they aren’t particularly large or powerful besides the Liege Maximo since he is not originally one of them.
-Megatron becomes famous in combat and gathers a following of other fighters including Blackout, Barricade, Bonecrusher, Brawl(and the other Combaticons who are not yet Combiners, just sort of a gladiatorial team).
-Under coordination from The Fallen he is able to ally with the scientists(StarScream and SkyFire) and they begin to plan a raid.
-Meanwhile, the Autobots serve as workers for the C.E. upperclass, Optimus Prime is one such worker.
-Before the last Prime who was Optimus’ father died, he sent a messenger with the location of the Allspark to give it to any remaining Primes.
-As the messenger draws closer to Optimus, he is assassinated by one of Straxus’ men, but not before transferring the information to Optimus(trying to go for a reminiscent thing of how Prime got the Matrix in G1 and stuff…just…different).
-Optimus is able to unite the working force and hears of a warrior named Megatron, they combine their forces for one giant raid against the Cybertronian Empire
-They are eventually successful, StarScream’s weapons prove to be very powerful and in the end, Megatron deals the finishing blow to The Liege Maximo(or did he? DUN DUN DUNN)
-At the last minute, The Fallen is able to claim victory, the Decepticons, believing it was his doing, serve him, with Megatron given the honorary rank of Lord High Protector.
-All part of Megatron’s plan, he figures over time, The Fallen will grow weak, and slip, and then he can reveal who the true Decepticon Leader is(thus explaining ROTF’s events, obviously, he never gets the chance because Prime kills The Fallen but it works for him)
-Being a worker, Prime wishes for peace on Cybertron
-Megatron seeks to prevent another corruption(the irony…) and thus strengthens the TransFormer’s military appointing himself several generals being: StarScream, SoundWave, ShockWave, As of yet Unnamed 8 armed TransFormer(created by me), Scourge(Based on the RiD version, he is actually Optimus’ twin and a Prime as well who remained hidden), Barricade, Scrapper, Outrage(character created by me)

So that’s it for chapter 1, any suggestions or changes?