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I want to smart a small collection of classic transformers only.

I was wondering where I can get or if I can get such items like below

Transformer PVC's (Revolt?) - Are the revolts the closest things to them? I remember awhile back there used to be box sets which I own a couple of. Im pretty sure they dont make them anymore

20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Classic Figure - English Edition - Is this released yet? This thing looks bomb, anyone have comments/info on it?

Transformers Classic Deluxe Starscream, Transformers Classic Deluxe: Rodimus Prime ect - What are these exactly? Are they worth collecting?


Transformers G1 Soundwave - English Edition - Toys R Us Exclusive - OMG!!! Are there plans to release any more of these types of things? This is exactly what I want! Are these released yet?

MP-03 Masterpiece Starscream, MP-01 Masterpiece Convoy ect - Drool, where can I get these? I see them at big bad toy store but they are all sold out? Any plans to get these back in stock or any other places to purchase?

Based on the types of things Im interested in, any other types of toys I should look out for. Thanks In advance!

Thanks In Advance
eXistance360

if you read a little through the toy board, i'm sure you'll find all the answers you are looking for.. try using the search function. and welcome to seibertron

Ya, Tryed, but Im by no means a Transformer Expert. So as of now, when Im reading alot of the posts, I'm pretty lost. Thats why it would be appreciated if someone can just share some knowledge with me.

Thanks for the welcome.

The Search function doesn't work yet. AFAIK

I'll answer your questions in red:

eXistance360 wrote:Transformer PVC's (Revolt?) - Are the revolts the closest things to them? I remember awhile back there used to be box sets which I own a couple of. Im pretty sure they dont make them anymore

Revoltech, are highly detailed, articulate and poseable figures. Way ahead of the old PVC figures. as of yet only a few moulds exist. Prime, Ultra Magnus, and Megatron. They look nice, but I'm not really into non transforming transformers figures, regardless of how poseable they are.

20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Classic Figure - English Edition - Is this released yet? This thing looks bomb, anyone have comments/info on it?

Yes there are a few "American" versions. You can get these though Hasbro Toy Shop, and Amazon, or some other online retailer. Its a Real cool figure. Diecast metal, and highly detailed and articulate. The only problem with the American release is the color. Its not quite red, more like a bright Orangy color.

Transformers Classic Deluxe Starscream, Transformers Classic Deluxe: Rodimus Prime ect - What are these exactly? Are they worth collecting?
This is a Sub line of Transformers that debuted about September of last year. Its basically new renditions of G1 characters. The figures are nicely done, detailed, and articulate. Deluxe refers to their size. THe best toys form that line n my opinion are: Skywarp and Ultra Mangus 2 pack. Megatron. if you like the Gun mode. Jetfire, awesome figure. and AstroTrain. for Picture Galleries of all of them go here: http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.php?f_series=39



Transformers G1 Soundwave - English Edition - Toys R Us Exclusive - OMG!!! Are there plans to release any more of these types of things? This is exactly what I want! Are these released yet?

Actually He's the last figure of of a series of G1 re-issues.
There is now a new line in the same vane, of G1 re-issues called Transformers Encore. They are basically re released toys. with some small modifications to comply with todays toy safety laws. They are real cool, if you where a child of the 80's and are looking for some nostalgia. These are hard to get now, and can be quite expensive. Ebay is the most likely source for this.


MP-03 Masterpiece Starscream, MP-01 Masterpiece Convoy ect - Drool, where can I get these? I see them at big bad toy store but they are all sold out? Any plans to get these back in stock or any other places to purchase?

These are Japanese productions, highly detailed. and very expensive. MP-01 Convoy is practically the same as 20th Anniversary Edition Prime. except for the orangy color. Starscream has not been released in the U.S. yet, however he has been confirmed as a Walmart Exclusive, in G1 accurate colors for the near future.

Based on the types of things Im interested in, any other types of toys I should look out for. Thanks In advance!

You might want to look for the Titanium lines, although at its end, there are some worthy figures that you might like. Warning though some of these are really low in QC, while others are almost works of art.
Galleries: http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.ph ... type=exact

Another line also coming to its end are the Alternators. Highly accurate replicas of licensed vehicles. That can be almost mistaken by real scale model cars in alternate mode, and have highly detailed and poseable Robot modes. However as I said they have just recently ended. So whatever you can find now is the last thing there's gonna be. Galleries of these: http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.ph ... type=exact

--hmm, the pvc revoltechs i believe are still pretty easy to get from online, haven't seen them in any local comic stores though.. they don't transform, but emulate the g1 cartoon look. i don't have them personally, but they go for like 25-30 bucks i believe

--20th anniversary prime.. still available, i've seen him at walmart, and you can also order him online from their website.. this thread has pictures and goes into the takara release masterpiece mp01 as well : http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9277&sid=
--classics were a line released in the fall of last year that emulates the g1 designs and is a line for fans.. it has no cartoon and the 2nd version was announced at botcon (we thought the line had ended) i think they are great, you can still find them around, but with the release of the movie, they are being phased out till classics 2.0 comes along.
here's some pics: http://seibertron.com/toys/index.php?f_series=39
--the tru soundwave is great, he's a repaint of the soundblaster mold, which holds two tapes and chest comes out a bit more.. good luck finding him, i'd be loooking for the encore version which should be out soon, or the music label version which plays mp3s.. here's some info on all 3=
classics: http://seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php?id=1169&size=0&start=0
encore (which is of the actual soundwave mold): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK10709&mode=retail
music label: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK10695&mode=retail
--mp-03 isn't too hard to find online or ebay. however, if you want an anime colored screamer (white and all the fixings), he will be released solely through walmart in the fall. also he will be only 60 bucks.. here's that info: http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9181&sid=

yes, get alternators, they are what got me back into collecting.. they completely rule.. i'll let you fetch the info on that.. good luck.

hope that helps.. you owe me a beer

Few More Questions
Thanks to both of you, especially Overcracker, your format was easy to read and your awnsers where helpful. Based on your awnsers, a couple more quick questions

1. 20th Anniversary Prime is diecast? Any assembly required and it doesnt transform correct? I just trying to imagine it being Diecast. From what I understand thats like a Model Car correct?

2. Deluxe's are remakes of the originals? Go with the same as the Soundwave? Are all the Deluxe models from that link the same as the original g1 transformers or close to? Such as the Optimus, Starscream, Devestator, Skywarp, Ultra Magnus, ect?

3. The MP series are not diecast are they? (Got other awnser from above post)

4. Not really into the Alternators, not sure about the Diecast as of now. Im really only interested in the G1 Transformers, never really liked anything later then that.

Let me know
Thanks In Advance
D2-Infection

eXistance360 wrote:Few More Questions
Thanks to both of you, especially Overcracker, your format was easy to read and your awnsers where helpful. Based on your awnsers, a couple more quick questions

1. 20th Anniversary Prime is diecast? Any assembly required and it doesn't transform correct? I just trying to imagine it being Diecast. From what I understand thats like a Model Car correct?

No assembly, Hasbro believes all their figures should be pre-assembled at factory. So its ready to be used and transformed right out of the box. Thats the beauty of it, it does fully transform, into a very nice looking Truck.

2. Deluxe's are remakes of the originals? Go with the same as the Soundwave? Are all the Deluxe models from that link the same as the original g1 transformers or close to? Such as the Optimus, Starscream, Devestator, Skywarp, Ultra Magnus, ect?

Classics Deluxes are modern takes on G1 characters. They look like the G1 characters, but the actual figures are different from the 80's toys. The ones that are the 80's toys re-issued are the old Re-issue Line, and the new "Encore" line. The Toys R' US Soundwave is a Re-issue of the 80's figure (same original toy mold, with minor changes) only it comes in Classics Packaging, but its not from the Classics Line.

3. The MP series are not diecast are they? Also, Starscream is coming to walmart? do they have any time frame?

The MP series are Diecast. Which is Partly why they are so expensive. Diecast just means they have metal parts. However they can transform. as for Starscream, i believe they said sometime in 2008. maybe summer 2008

4. Not really into the Alternators, not sure about the Diecast as of now. Im really only interested in the G1 Transformers, never really liked anything later then that.
G1 re-issues (be it the old Re-isseu Line or the New Encore line) like their original 1980's counterparts have some diecast mostly the Chests.

Alternators, have the added benefit of representing G1 characters. The Alternators aren't Diecast, they are Plastic. The Japanese sister line called Binaltech are Diecast. And also Transform.

20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Classic Figure - English Edition - Is this released yet? This thing looks bomb, anyone have comments/info on it?

He is released, and he's a brilliant figure. See if you can get the 20th Anniversary one rather than the Classics version, as the 20th anniversary has much nicer painting on it, as well as chrome. TRU still stock some of the 20th Anni version, as well as the Classics version. You can compare in store for your favourite version.

Transformers Classic Deluxe Starscream, Transformers Classic Deluxe: Rodimus Prime ect - What are these exactly? Are they worth collecting?

Delightful figures. Buy them all. The Classics deluxe figures are a range of transformers that are basically updated versions of the original character to have better articulation, detail etc. They are entirely plastic, and cost £10 from shops like Woolworths, Argos, Toys R Us and The Entertainer. They are about the same size as the G1 seekers.

Transformers G1 Soundwave - English Edition - Toys R Us Exclusive - OMG!!! Are there plans to release any more of these types of things? This is exactly what I want! Are these released yet?

Sadly, I doubt we'll ever see this figure on our shores. I guess your best bet is to import. This is the last in the line of Hasbro reissues. But Takara are rereleasing reissues in the Encore line. But I expect prices will run high.

MP-03 Masterpiece Starscream, MP-01 Masterpiece Convoy ect - Drool, where can I get these? I see them at big bad toy store but they are all sold out? Any plans to get these back in stock or any other places to purchase?

Masterpiece- aka 20th anniversary- Prime I've covered. As for Starscream, I'd either wait and see whether the Anime accurate version hits our shores, or import- or buy from Forbidden Planet- the Takara version. You can buy from most online stores. Your best bet is to mosey on down to the Disgruntled Brits thread and ask around about availability and where to buy. Their info is invaluable. This thread is in the toy forum.

MP Starscreams amount of metal isn't anything to write home about. I think the frame was only for the sake of keeping the figure from breaking in half and to say "die-cast" somewhere on the box. It's a 98% plastic figure.

Snazzy looking though. All these "anime accurate" fans are missing out on a great figure and a Lazy Man's Thundercracker. Though he's way overpriced now. I can't wait for Skywarp. Gotta clear out shelf space so as to pose them in flight behind Hasbro's Starscream someday.

Edit: One More Thing... if you're really into keeping with the Generation One theme [and have the money], I suggest you consider branching out into the Binaltech/Alt line. You'll be hunting well after the fact for both lines, but they certainly are worthy of being called an extension of the Masterpiece concept and hold true to G1 origins.

Regarding the lines you meantioned. From my experiences, here is some info that you might benefit you.

Classics - Skip Devastater, he is total crap. Everything else is awesome. Cliffjumper and Bumblebee in bot mode fit in perfectly with the Alternaters. Add in some figures from the Energon and Cybertron lines to flesh this set out. I'd recommend, Shockblast, Downshift, Unicron, Primus, Arcee for starters.

Alternaters - My faves are Laserwave, Jazz (aka Meister), Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, Silverstreak, Smokescreen, Prowl, Alert, Grimlock, Wheeljack, Mirage, Hound, Swindle. Pre-order the clear Mirage out at the end of the summer and grab a pre-order for the SDCC Rodimus from ebay. In scale, these fit in perfectly with the Masterpiece line.

Masterpiece - Buy MP-04, Prime with Trailer. Buy a DVD Prime from Toys R Us for 25 bucks. Now you have the best Prime ever as well as a kinda orange one to haul the awesome Trailer around for just 25 more. Just replace the smokestacks on DVD Prime with the elongated chrome ones readily available for 10 bucks. Pre-order Skywarp and buy Megatron. Buy the anime accuratwe Hasbro Starscream due out some time later this year.

Reissues: I'd start my G1 collection here. If you are patient, you can get these for 20 bucks each, complete, and mostly in sealed boxes. An original in good condition and complete would cost 2-5 times as much. So its a quick way to get rolling. I'd avoid Astrotrain though. I don't like the white and black Takara colors. DEFINATELY pre-order the Encore package. About 180 gets you a Reissue Megatron, Prime, Starscream and Soundwave from Takara. What a baragain!

Non Transforming - I love the Revoltech and Takara PVC lines. You can get Revoltech Megatron and Prime for about 50 shipped on ebay and are amazing.

I'd also look into grabbing the hybrid convoy...great stuff.

Hope that helps!

And here are my "tips" and thoughts for you:

1. Think about scale before starting your collection. You don't want to end up with, for example, an MP Prime (about 33 cm tall) and Classics Megatron (about 1/4 of MP Prime's height) or a Classics Starscream (slightly taller than a cell phone) and Alternators Jazz (three times the height of a cell phone) because then your collection will look awkward and it'll be hard to play with or even display in a cool manner.

So think about which lines you prefer; what aesthetic you're going for, and what characters you like.

Also think about how "serious" a collector you want to be:

If Very Serious - start with the G1 reissues and make saving up 180 USD for the encore reissues your priority. You'll get G1 Prime, G1 Megs, G1 Starscream and G1 Soundwave right off the bat.

If it's more just for fun or whatever then maybe start with the Movie toys?

In any event - IMO - the scale thing is important because you'll have more fun that way.

Small collections with a small handfull of toys that are totally out of scale with oneanother and not tied together by common storylines are kind of lonely...

But in the end - you'll likely just get what you like

Skids

I agree. Scale is very overlooked in most people's collections from the pics that I see.

For me personally, I have mine seperated into a few different clear cut sections.

In a couple of glass cases in the living room, I keep my MP/Alt. collection. I keep Classics Bumblebee and Cliffjumper here.

In the game room I have my G1s along one wall, and the G1 inspired stuff along another wall. By G1 inspired I am referring to the Classics and select Energon, Cybertron figures like Unicron, Primus, Downshift, etc. along with any customs I've bought.

In the study I have all my PVCs on one wall, and they look so much more stunning seperate from their larger transforming Bretheren. The other wall holds my WSTs. Once again, much better to seperate these as much as possible. Seeing an MP Prime right behind these little beauties just ruins them, imo.