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Phategod1 wrote:

Li Lioeliatus wrote:Michael Bay is not awful at all. He makes films with big explosions and decent plots ( usually )and happy endings that are fun to watch.

Independance Day is a great film.

Pearl Harbour was dross of the highest order. The attack took longer on film than it did in reality. And the plot was downright immoral.

But most of his films are great.

It could have been some really bad or arty idiot who did Transformers. Then it really would suck.

I nearly did not watch Transformers 1 because that loser Spielberg was involved.
I hate Stephen Spielberg. He is overrated garbage like George Lucas.

Just hope the sentimental loon bucket did not get his claws in further into T2.

Are you serious Spielberg invented the Summer Blockbuster. And While I agree with you on the Lucas spot, Micheal Bay has less talent then Spielberg's Gym shorts. You can see At least 3 different draws Bay pulls from Spielberg in Transformers alone, from ET, Raiders of the Lost Ark, to Jurassic Park. Do you know how many Academy Awards this man and his movies have Shindler's List, Munich, Saving Private Ryan, are you serious bub.

Ok I admit I thinking of the bad ones like ET.
Some of Spielbergs films are good.
Jurassic Park series, Raiders films, yeah they are good.
But his recent stuff and the wretched ET, is not.
Ai is a grim grim film.
Schindlers List, Saving Private Ryan, Munich, so not my kind of film.
And I could not care less how many awards a person has won. I go on if they are any good and if I like them and their work. Awards are mostly rigged and bribed anyway.

Use the 'Report a Post' function more often gang and I'll put a quick end to some of the ole' BS around here.

Counterpunch wrote:Use the 'Report a Post' function more often gang and I'll put a quick end to some of the ole' BS around here.

This is the only BS I see.

Stormrider wrote:Michael Bay taking a break from Transformers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGWZxI9lAs

I remember posting this. Years ago. We have a thread lich among us, hidden in plain sigh.

no he is not awful.

Counterpunch wrote:Use the 'Report a Post' function more often gang and I'll put a quick end to some of the ole' BS around here.

Sure thing! I am going to use it right now.

Shadowman wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:Here is the trick Shadowman, robinson never stated his opinion on THE MATTER of Bay being awful or great, he simple attacked me for posting in the topic. I have no idea if he agrees or disagrees with me. He is the one NOT staying on topic. You Shadowman disagree about Bay and that is fine, but I have no clue how Robinson feels about Mike Bay, I just know how he feels about ME Talking about Bay, not how he actually feels about bay.

Look two posts above yours.

Robinson wrote:And Coolyfelt, I am neither a hater of Bay or a lover. You know what I am? Someone who appreciates a movie for what it is. A fun popcorn flick that lets me escape the real world for a couple hours and not have to think about anything else.


I know I am in a minority on this site as I dont hold transformers to such high acclaim and high regard that the holy g1 is untouchable and anyone who changes anything is performing sacrilage. Like someone else said its a 22 minute commercial to sell toys which many of us have been suckered into over the last 25 years.

That sounds an awful lot like an opinion to me.

Coolyfett wrote:In 1988 or 1989 Transformers as a brand was sick, not dead but very ill, Bay gave the brand a steroid, but people act like he cured the illness, steroids are bad.

Wrong. For many illnesses, doctors will prescribe steroids. Check your facts.

Those post came after the fact of responding to you, not prior. All Steroids are not the same. Dude you are just mad because I don't think Mike Bay does good TF flicks. That how I feel man, you won't and CAN'T change that. Peace

fascinating... But end the end (pun intended) Bay's films are like empty orgasms...

Coolyfett wrote:Those post came after the fact of responding to you, not prior.

And yet Robinson's post is listed BEFORE yours.

Coolyfett wrote:All Steroids are not the same.

I know. I just pointed that out. The type you're referring to is often described as "performance enhancing drugs" which, now that I think about it, is oddly positive.

Coolyfett wrote:Dude you are just mad because I don't think Mike Bay does good TF flicks. That how I feel man, you won't and CAN'T change that. Peace

I'm only irritated that you fail to see any sort of logic or reason when you deride Michael Bay.

SamYarbrough77 wrote:fascinating... But end the end (pun intended) Bay's films are like empty orgasms...

Wow, that is possibly the worst analogy I've heard all week.

ZGMF-X88S wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Honestly, people, they're movies. They're not meant to enlighten, they're just meant to entertain.

Michael Bay, by that standard, IS a horrible director. He has never yet made a movie I have been able to enjoy, and I have long since given up hope that he ever will.

Pearl Harbor was a good flick, but I only seen it once. The Bad Boys movies were good, they had 2 funny actors in them, and actually made sense. I have not seen The Rock or the space ship movie with Ben Afleck, but he does not do TF flicks properly. Like the guy that did the Batman flicks with Val Kilmer and George Clooney....watching these movies tells me that TF was not meant for live action or only for animation. You need someone who did Star Trek, LOTR or Star Wars, these movies need that type of backbone. I never even heard of Bay til these new TF flicks came. Sci fi is not his thing, Cops & Robbers is.

ZGMF-X88S wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Honestly, people, they're movies. They're not meant to enlighten, they're just meant to entertain.

I once saw someone say that he couldn't find a movie entertaining unless his brain was engaged by the movie. That's a sentiment I agree with. If I have to shut my brain down to enjoy something, I can't enjoy it. The movie doesn't have to be enlightening, or anything like that, it just has to have a fair bit more going for it than explosions and cool special effects.

If you can't turn your brain off, then the action genre is not for you. I'm going to go watch Shoot 'Em Up now.

ZGMF-X88S wrote:Michael Bay, by that standard, IS a horrible director. He has never yet made a movie I have been able to enjoy, and I have long since given up hope that he ever will.

He's never made a movie you enjoy. Keep in mind, your opinion does not change the face of someone's career. Just because you don't enjoy it, doesn't mean he's terrible, just that Michael Bay's style isn't for you.

Shadowman wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:Those post came after the fact of responding to you, not prior.

And yet Robinson's post is listed BEFORE yours.

Coolyfett wrote:All Steroids are not the same.

I know. I just pointed that out. The type you're referring to is often described as "performance enhancing drugs" which, now that I think about it, is oddly positive.

Coolyfett wrote:Dude you are just mad because I don't think Mike Bay does good TF flicks. That how I feel man, you won't and CAN'T change that. Peace

I'm only irritated that you fail to see any sort of logic or reason when you deride Michael Bay.

SamYarbrough77 wrote:fascinating... But end the end (pun intended) Bay's films are like empty orgasms...

Wow, that is possibly the worst analogy I've heard all week.

Yea it came BEFORE MY RESPONSE TO YOU...get it now?

Shadowman wrote:
If you can't turn your brain off, then the action genre is not for you.

Credibility lost.

why fight over a cheezzeball who all of us will most likely will never meet? AND!!! why would we want to? I could of made a better 07 movie. But hey i guess everyone has a script right? end the end its just another one of those "omg, i love to fight on the forums" hahaha

Coolyfett wrote:Yea it came BEFORE MY RESPONSE TO YOU...get it now?

Yes, but clearly you do not. You said Robinson hadn't given an opinion, even though, two posts before that, he gave an opinion.

Coolyfett wrote:

Shadowman wrote:
If you can't turn your brain off, then the action genre is not for you.

Credibility lost.

Only yours. Action flicks should not require thought; Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Shoot 'Em Up, Crank, Robocop, Predator, Rambo, Point Break, etc. They're not smart, nor do they pretend to be, they're just big, dumb, flashy fun. The way the Action Genre should be.

Robocop is one of the best action cyberpunk movies of all time....... the original cyber ninja...predator was sick. fifth element awesome. sci fi action can work!

SamYarbrough77 wrote:Robocop is one of the best action cyberpunk movies of all time....... the original cyber ninja...predator was sick. fifth element awesome. sci fi action can work!

I agree totally. Very credible poster.

So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Robinson wrote:So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Pardon Me?

Hey man I think coolyfett is awesome....we dont all have to like what is spoonfed too us, and he is knowledge whats wrong with some of us that hate the movies....are we phillistines???

Robinson wrote:So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Robinson, this is the 2nd time you came at me, with me never addressing you to began with. You also stated the word "we" 4 times in your post. I didn't know there was a cult of poster that developed a team to go against me man. It really is not that serious and you guys are pay me way too much attention. Cmon Robinson & crew relax, have a snack, eat some cookies and be merry guys. A team has formed to go against Coolyfett? Wow. I am going to go watch Transformers 1986. Peace man.

Coolyfett wrote:

Robinson wrote:So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Pardon Me?

Because SamYarbrough77 more or less agreed with me (You do not require a brain for Predator or Robocop), even though you claimed I lost credibility.

Coolyfett wrote:

Robinson wrote:So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Robinson, this is the 2nd time you came at me, with me never addressing you to began with. You also stated the word "we" 4 times in your post. I didn't know there was a cult of poster that developed a team to go against me man. It really is not that serious and you guys are pay me way too much attention. Cmon Robinson & crew relax, have a snack, eat some cookies and be merry guys. A team has formed to go against Coolyfett? Wow. I am going to go watch Transformers 1986. Peace man.

What does it feel like to be out of touch with reality? (See that is me coming at you)

There is not a team, but I am speaking in general terms when i say we. You see the person that disagrees with you all of a sudden has no creditability, but the person that said robocop was good is a "very credible poster"

So what I said holds true. What you fail to realize is that by posting on an open forum you leave yourself open to opinions other than yours, but just as you say we cant force our opinions on you, you cannot either. You resurrected a 2 year old thread just to talk about how much of a hack Bay is over a movie that has not been seen yet. And now that some people are going against you opinion then we are attacking and flaiming you. There have been a few who agree with your feelings on Bay and that is perfectly fine, but you seem to like being a target or else you would not say things in the manner that you are.

Robinson wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:

Robinson wrote:So if we agree with you we are credible,but if we do not share the same opinion than we have no creditability?

Yeah that makes sense.

Robinson, this is the 2nd time you came at me, with me never addressing you to began with. You also stated the word "we" 4 times in your post. I didn't know there was a cult of poster that developed a team to go against me man. It really is not that serious and you guys are pay me way too much attention. Cmon Robinson & crew relax, have a snack, eat some cookies and be merry guys. A team has formed to go against Coolyfett? Wow. I am going to go watch Transformers 1986. Peace man.

What does it feel like to be out of touch with reality? (See that is me coming at you)

Boy, you should look in the mirror and ask yourself that question. I don't come at posters with animosity and anger man. I have peacefully replied to you. YET, You make all the insults. Ok cool man, you are best on that site at insults. Here is your blue ribbon for "Insults of the Year" ok...Out of touch with reality? lol Thanks Robinson, please take my advice and relax man. I don't want you to have stroke over a Transformers conversation bro. Take it easy.

I like what you did there, Coolyfett. You only paid attention to one single line of Robinson's post, but ignored the rest of it. Even though the rest of the post is entirely true.