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News Credits: 2 · by **X3ROhour** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:26 am

Going to jail today.
60 days
For Dumpster Diving.
California comes up with some weird laws.
See you guys when I return.
Keep up the Hunt!

:-?

*EDIT*

GOOD NEWS!

well... sorta... :roll:

i went to court and the DA lowerd the charge and gave me 45 days...

HOUSE ARREST!!!!

i rejoice!
i hardly leave the house anyway!
i work at home!
i'm disabled and dispise the humans and the solar ball, so YAY!

thanks to everyone whao said something nice.

i think people should be responsible for thier own information and realize that we live in an age where shredding in neccessary and that some people make their livelyhood from what the wasteful deem as "trash"

I'm livin green (though i hate the popular use of the term - whatever gets people to pull their heads out of thier butts).

I'm here tryin to live super green and these idjits can deem to destroy their info?
Lame.

anyway... for all intents and purposes: I'M FREE!

by **Pyrostrata** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:30 am

Manitou Z3ROhour wrote:Going to jail today.
60 days
For Dumpster Diving.
California comes up with some weird laws.
See you guys when I return.
Keep up the Hunt!

Holy cats! Remind me never to move to California! I make horrendous amounts of cash from dumpster diving, when I can....My ex-brother-in-law makes more than I doing the same thing!

Best of luck to ya, dear!

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:26 pm

What?

and...

What?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:27 pm

What is dumpster diving?

Good luck man, come back in one piece.

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:35 pm

Dumpster diving is taking stuff out of commercial or private trash. Credit card info can be stolen this way. The phrase can also be taken literally, some teens dive into dumpsters as pranks or dares.

by **Moonlight** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:01 pm

Yikes!!!!! I remember my first apartment was furnished from dumpsters. Of course we lived right off a huge army base in Colorado where people would get orders to go overseas. They are only allowed a certain amount of weight so it was quite often that there was nice furniture sitting next to dumpsters in apartment complexes.

News Credits: 3 · by **FracturedKoi** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:23 pm

Omega Charge wrote:Dumpster diving is taking stuff out of commercial or private trash. Credit card info can be stolen this way. The phrase can also be taken literally, some teens dive into dumpsters as pranks or dares.

And that, my friends, is why I shred everything!!!

by **Pyrostrata** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:55 pm

Dumpster diving can be profitable in a less fraudulant sense. My ex-brother-in-law dove commercial dumpsters for broken computers and such....You get 500 broken laptops out of the dumpster and you can make maybe 200 completely functional laptops, sell each for $200....I am sure you can do the math! He actually makes a living this way!

As for thefts of personal information, it DOES happen a lot! When we dove, and found things with social security numbers and the like on it all the time, we would shred it ourselves...Why bother with stealing money when you can work a bit (more fun than work actually) and make LEGAL money? Good times!

News Credits: 2 · by **X3ROhour** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:09 pm

GOOD NEWS!

well... sorta... :roll:

i went to court and the DA lowerd the charge and gave me 45 days...

HOUSE ARREST!!!!

i rejoice!
i hardly leave the house anyway!
i work at home!
i'm disabled and dispise the humans and the solar ball, so YAY!

thanks to everyone whao said something nice.

i think people should be responsible for thier own information and realize that we live in an age where shredding in neccessary and that some people make their livelyhood from what the wasteful deem as "trash"

I'm livin green (though i hate the popular use of the term - whatever gets people to pull their heads out of thier butts).

I'm here tryin to live super green and these idjits can deem to destroy their info?
Lame.

anyway... for all intents and purposes: I'M FREE!

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:20 pm

Allright!

Hope your Transformers can keep you occupied. ;)^

by **Defcon!** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:27 pm

I spent 36 days house arrest and 10 days in jail. Not for dumpster diving though. House arrest really was'nt that bad except for the fact it was over the holidays. Jail sucks and i would'nt recommend it to anybody! Very happy for you congrats! :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:45 pm

yikes! i wonder what i'll get for the public indecency charge i got.
couldn't be as bad as the great panty raid of '04.

by **Pyrostrata** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:48 pm

Well, glad you do not have to do a forced stay in the local Greybar Hotel! Never good times in there!

At least with house arrest, you get lovely ankle jewelry..matches everything in everyone's wardrobe!

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:50 am

Really, people? Dumpster diving? Kids pulling pranks and dares is one thing, but if you're really so broke that you have to dig through others' trash to make some cash, maybe you shouldn't be spending it all on toys. Then again, TFs bought with money made from selling another's trash is about as close to free as you can get, so enjoy!

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:53 am

That is so hilarious! I mean the dumpster diving, not the jail time or house arrest. I never heard of such a thing but it makes sense. Since i"m currently unemployed... :twisted:

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeysie** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:09 am

Savage wrote:Kids pulling pranks and dares is one thing, but if you're really so broke that you have to dig through others' trash to make some cash, maybe you shouldn't be spending it all on toys.

It's got nothing to do with being broke, and more to do with what Pyro and Missourisnowflakes said... people are shamefully wasteful and throw away things that are still good. I don't care how rich I am... if I see something thrown away I could use and is still in good shape, I'll still decide to give it a better home than the landfill.

Arresting someone for dumpster diving has to be the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. What's next, 90 days in jail for jaywalking? :roll:

I find myself wondering how house arrest is handled logistically. I mean, I don't leave my house much either, but I still have to do things like buy food and take my clothes to the laundromat. I will assume that if you stop being able to pay rent and get evicted because you can't work from home, they just turn it into a regular jail sentence.

by **Defcon!** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:05 pm

Jeysie wrote:
Savage wrote:Kids pulling pranks and dares is one thing, but if you're really so broke that you have to dig through others' trash to make some cash, maybe you shouldn't be spending it all on toys.

It's got nothing to do with being broke, and more to do with what Pyro and Missourisnowflakes said... people are shamefully wasteful and throw away things that are still good. I don't care how rich I am... if I see something thrown away I could use and is still in good shape, I'll still decide to give it a better home than the landfill.

Arresting someone for dumpster diving has to be the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. What's next, 90 days in jail for jaywalking?

I find myself wondering how house arrest is handled logistically. I mean, I don't leave my house much either, but I still have to do things like buy food and take my clothes to the laundromat. I will assume that if you stop being able to pay rent and get evicted because you can't work from home, they just turn it into a regular jail sentence.

As far as how they handle the house arrest it usually depends on the severity of the charge or if it's a first offense. They have numerous types of devices for house arrest. Your basic ankle bracelet with box. You hook it up directly to your phone line and it dials in when you get into range to let them know your home. Them being the place that issues you the device (UPI). The basic one is'nt like a GPS and your not a dot on a screen where they can follow you. It's kinda like an honor system. They will require you to get your work hours from your employer though every week. They usually give you a certain amount of time to get to and from work and they also understand you need to stop and get gas and essentials. As long as you call in and let them know you have to stop they usually are pretty good about it as long as you don't give them any trouble. The other devices though are no joke. They are GPS tracking systems and they do know where you are at all times! They also have video monitoring devices that will watch you at home! And ankle bracelets that do read the level of alcohol in your system! And you are responsible to pay for these devices if you have to get them. :-(

So everyone be careful and try not to get into to much trouble or just don't get caught! ;)^

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:00 pm

Manitou Z3ROhour wrote:i dispise the humans and the solar ball!

Really? Me too! We should hang out but preferably not in a dumpster. :wink:

Oh and I like how you call it a "solar ball" my famous catch fraise is "Can someone please find the dimmer switch for that giant light bulb and turn it down, it's too damn bright out here!"

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeysie** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:46 pm

Defcon: Ah, OK, that makes a good deal of sense there. Reminds me of the sort of things some of my classmates who landed themselves in "lesser juvie hall" or the strict-level foster homes had to deal with.

I still find arresting someone for dumpster diving rather silly, though. Don't see why there should be something illegal about obtaining and keeping something someone else got rid of and thus obviously doesn't want and already relinqished ownership of... IMHO you should only get arrested if you actually do something illegal with your new acquisitions (like identify theft).

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:28 pm

I think the fact you were in the dumpster in the first place is punishment all by itself. :lol:

Dumpsters smell.

by **Pyrostrata** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:43 pm

Manitou Z3ROhour wrote:i dispise the humans and the solar ball!

That makes two of us! :grin:

I am a night-person and always have been!

by **Defcon!** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:00 pm

Jeysie wrote:Defcon: Ah, OK, that makes a good deal of sense there. Reminds me of the sort of things some of my classmates who landed themselves in "lesser juvie hall" or the strict-level foster homes had to deal with.

I still find arresting someone for dumpster diving rather silly, though. Don't see why there should be something illegal about obtaining and keeping something someone else got rid of and thus obviously doesn't want and already relinqished ownership of... IMHO you should only get arrested if you actually do something illegal with your new acquisitions (like identify theft).

I too think getting arrested for dumpster diving is kinda stupid. I mean people leave T.V.s, couches, and any other bigger objects out by their trash so people will pick them up! I know there has been a few times we've left certain things such as metal on the curb and people scoop it up right away to recycle it for money! I can see where a problem arises with identity theft though. I guess if they don't want people rummaging around in a public dumpster they should start shredding their trash with personal info. on it!

News Credits: 2 · by **X3ROhour** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:55 pm

it's all just so stupid!
why can't the humans do what i myself have teaken for granted: protect yourself, shred you docs.?

This Nanny Government just makes the pitiful humans that much more pitiful.

lameness knows no bounds.
laws that keep us safe from the evils and neglects? Fantastic! I appreciate the lawgivers in this.
laws that coddel us and keep us in our bassenets? truely idoitic. Humans cry for their keeps and don't realize the banana come throught the bars.

Pyrostrata & Saber Prime:
I knew i felt a hush in the night. A coolness upon my neck.
Kindred in sense and senibilty. Long dead the living night!

also: either a "solar ball" or "flaming bag of space gas"?
i chose the kinder.

by **Pyrostrata** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:28 am

Manitou Z3ROhour wrote:Pyrostrata & Saber Prime:
I knew i felt a hush in the night. A coolness upon my neck.
Kindred in sense and senibilty. Long dead the living night!

also: either a "solar ball" or "flaming bag of space gas"?
i chose the kinder.

Nice poem!

Indeed the night is loaded with life..and death...all rolled into one! The humans can keep their flaming daystar! :grin:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:37 am

For the record, as a kid I use to go through the local dump and do a bit of scavenging so I do have experience.

However as far as dumpster diving rules go, i'm all for them.

Why? Well aside from the invasion of privacy reasons (yes, people SHOULD destroy sensitive information but not everyone thinks to do that) but there's also the health reason.

What happens if you jump in and and prick yourself on a used needle? Or impale yourself on something else?

What about those who dumpster dive for food and they end up eating something that was rotten and end up sick from it?

This is a major reason these laws exist, because of the health risks involved.

Sure, you take responsibility for your dives, just like I use to do as a kid at the dump, but you're deluding yourself if you think people are going to take responsibility for their own actions. You just know that someone out there is likely to prick themselves on a needle, get some disease, then turn around and sue.

Laws aren't there to not only protect those who aren't responsible, but they're also there to protect us from idiots. And no, i'm not labelling anyone in this thread an idiot, i'm talking about those out there in the world who would do stupid things and that cause rules like this.